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It will probably be without Wayne, Edge, or Mathis in 2006, but a win at the RCA dome isn't very likely.

H---------A MIA-----MIA NE------NE NYJ------NYJ JAGS----HOU TEN------IND GB-------CHI MIN------DET KC-------BAL This is how the schedule shapes up for 2006. PLEASE don't turn this into a TD, MM, or player debate; all I'm saying is schedule looks manageable next year if we make the right moves. Just trying to stay positive

I've returned kicks but that certainly doesn't give me the knowledge of what it’s like at the NFL level. Nobody is saying he doesn't have a difficult job on kick and punt returns, but isn't it still fair for us to compare Roscoe to how our other return men have done? Roscoe has impressive numbers, but how many solid return men have we shown in the last two years? MaGee, Clements, and Fast Freddy have all shown a strong ability to return kicks. Clements could leave that picture, and you would still have two more then capable return men. I'm trying to go by what I witnessed Roscoe do on the field, and how he escapes from defenders. That element of his game has left me unimpressed and it looks a lot like a player we already have in Fast Freddy. Time will tell I guess

How does development influence the speed, acceleration, and agility of a WR? Those things may increase slightly but I doubt he got neglected in training when he played at the U. All the players you listed showed the raw ability that just needed to benefit from experience. IMO Roscoe doesn't look like he has the raw ability to make up for his size, so the benefit of experience won't really matter as much as it did for Reed, Moulds, etc.

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First let me say that I made a pretty bold statement about Roscoe Parrish in the NFL. I don't like to judge draft picks early, but what I'm discussing is directly involved with Roscoe’s ability to succeed in the NFL. At his size if he doesn’t have elite explosiveness then he might not be able to cut in this league. Roscoe starts and stops quickly, and makes quick cuts, but never reaches the top end speed to make him a serious threat. On one of his returns today a Miami LB literally chased him down. I mean I expected a Terrance MaGee like player with some offensive skills, what we have is a smaller, slower, version with an uncanny ability of letting the turf make the tackle. One more thing I didn’t like hearing was a casual joke by the announcers about Roscoe’s experience in cold weather. It may sound funny but does he have any idea just how bad it can get in Buffalo? I lived in Michigan my whole life and the cold still bites me in the ass, and Buffalo gets it even worse.

I don’t, in fact I didn't even look into who was available after Roscoe. Just commenting on how I perceived his play so far.

Is intelligence what you call completely changing the topic of this thread? I'm commenting on what I see in a player the Bills drafted, are people allowed do that anymore without having to give a list of 20 alternatives less then a year after the draft? I just don't see him making an impact, if you do explain why, if not save your opinion on what is or isn't an intelligent thread oh holy one.

I don't see him running circles around anybody. He's made some straight ahead returns on punts and kickoffs that offered hardly anymore impact then his predecessors. I'm not questioning his toughness; I'm questioning how he can end up being a good find for us at that size if he is anything less then electrifying with the ball.

It's more about the aura of the Bills. They have dedicated blue collar fans that can truly appreciate success because fair weather is about the worst thing somebody can be. The journey will be more difficult for us, but in the end victory will be that much sweeter. Throw all that in with one of the toughest winter stadiums to play at in the NFL, and they have a unique relationship with the city they play in. You might move them and still have success on the field, or financially, but they would lose the aura that makes some of us such die hard fans.

I don't have any connections to Buffalo but I still couldn't be a fan if they moved. Some times it's the fans that make the team, Buffalo is certainly an example of that.

I see strong acceleration and agility with low top end speed. If that’s the case he could be an ok slot, I was just hoping he had a little faster top gear. Also if this is the case wouldn’t somebody else be better suited on return? I thought Fast Freddy or Nate are better return threats then Roscoe.

You created this board for Bills fans to have a home to talk about the Bills right? Well this was a very painful loss to a hated division rival. I didn't expect the Bills to go to the playoffs, I was just happy we were playing so well. We have some positives to take from the game, but the way we lost makes it hard to see them so soon after the game ended. Some of the posts can get a little extreme, but some people are still trying to discuss what is going wrong on the team right now, after all that’s all you really have to discuss when your teams 4-8.

In 95% of the cases you can't get an accurate read on a draft pick until 3 years after the draft, but for some reason I'm very concerned about Roscoe. We all knew the guy could hide behind Lindsey Lohan in a bikini, but we were told about his lightning moves all camp. I at least gave him the benefit of the doubt because some players, no matter how small just might have it. My question is where is the speed, where is the elusiveness? I'm seeing an undersized rag doll being chased down by LB's. Can his cast be throwing his speed off by that much? Personally I don't think he is in the same ball park with MaGee in terms of explosion, and with his size that’s what I was expecting. We need to send old Roscoe to Beebe’s speed camp.

Scary isn't it? It also doesn't help that teams have played to stop our run all year. Denver, KC, SD, PITT etc. all have a QB that will beat you threw the air if you stack the box. JP is finally starting to take advantage of that over the top, but he is still struggling on his intermediate game, and especially in a condensed field. If we added the passing dimension that those strong run teams have I would say we would be top 10 or so in terms of our rush offense as a whole. The problem is we have a very long way to go to get to that point because the pass blocking has been so bad, and JP's still developing. With the talent we have we will have to address the OL regardless of the type of offense we want to run next season. If you’re going to do that why not look more for pass protectors then road graders? It's great that this team wants to be little Pittsburgh and all but I see most the players on offense in the future geared more for big plays then slow methodical drives, everybody except maybe Willis.

God no, Joey Harrington is a downfield passer that was placed in Mooches West Coast and it failed miserably. Right now JP looks a lot more like a downfield passer then a west coast QB. The last thing I want to see is the Bills fall below the depths of the Lions, and I have no proof that won't happen with Mooch as head coach.

That’s my point, after the first we played conservatively from the 50-25 which lead to more Red Zone attempts. I already illustrated just how much of our offense has been generated from big plays, because JP can bring that. But with a condensed field then we take our shots? This is exactly the place that JP has shown a propensity for turnovers. If nothing else we need points, we built the 21 point lead early knowing our defense gives up 29 on the road on average. You figure to a below average Dolphins offense 26 or so would be enough, 3 under our normal road average. It's called game management, and that’s what makes good coaches great. It's why we hear about the Parcells winning 80+ straight games when leading late etc. Turns out we got a safety to make it 23, and FG would have made it 26 and a W, one TD would have made it 28 and a W, either way it's a win.

. I think the problem is MM is trying to run a power attack, but we don't possess the lineman to be successful at that. We also have a young QB who recently has shown he has a penchant for big plays and turnovers. Those combined have a horrible effect on our red zone efficiency, which is why just about every time we get in the red zone we either kick a field goal or turn it over. When we have scored TD's (KC, MIA for the most part) it’s been by the big play, and it's not surprising considering the personnel we have. If you take out our rushing attack we effectively have an inexperienced gun slinger at QB, a burner at WR, and a possession guy in Moulds. JP has a poor chemistry with Moulds, and that has lead to 4 TD's on long plays to Evans (KC, MIA), and 1 short TD to Evans (MIA). Since JP came in we have had 4 long TD's to Lee, 1 short TD to Lee, and 1 short TD to Shelton (SD). So by not throwing deep to Lee you have effectively taken away 67% of our TD offense the past 4 games, MM did that for 3 quarters.

Is any game on this list truly a gimmie? I see the collective balls ripped out of this team after this loss. DEN has KC and SD nipping at their heals, CIN has Pittsburgh, and by the final week the Jets may be playing their last game for Herm Edwards. We could realistically be in one of the top 5 picks, with another top 5 pick from Tennessee in the 3rd, and probably an additional 3rd and 4th for comp from JJ and PW. This is one of the most talented drafts in a long time, so while this may suck at least it's a good year to do it. I know, it's pathetic it has come to this

Find a post that I have ever complained about us not running enough, or throwing enough. Like I said, I never had an issue with it before. Contrary to popular opinion the Bills do run a large % of the time, especially on first down, and I think the overall play calling hasn't been killing us, more the overall lack of talent at certain areas. The first quarter saw numerous downfield throws, and it was working. Then after we built the 21-0 we went to the dink and dunk style, and JP is not a dink and dunk player. He's a playmaker that’s going to make some mistakes, but also get some points in the process. We give up 29+ on the road this year, and the clear impression I got was MM thought 21 would be enough. It's a legitimate beef if that was the case.

I agree about Reggie, he may need a little time to adjust, and may never actually have a clear position on an offense, but the sheer impact he will make on the game will be like Vick, and LT. I see some RB, WR, and ST's in his future, as whoever is lucky enough to get him will utilize all his talents. A player like Bush doesn't come around often, of course you take him if he falls, but we will probably be in a position to nab a top DT or OT, so I don't see us trading up. That said even with the immense need for lineman I couldn't get upset about getting to watch Bush play for my favorite team.

I don't know what the point of that comment was, but I haven't seen game altering play calling from MM this year. He's been below average, but he hasn't given a game away like this. Some of our games have looked like we just didn't have the talent, this one was ALL coaching.

If his voice can handle it I would have no problem with that

The Bills came firing out of the gate and built a 21-0 lead, but from then on the strategy that was working was aborted. We turned into a Marty ball team, settling each drive for just not turning it over. Unfortunately for us when you play ultra conservative any possessions that result in points usually go threw the red zone, and the red zone is the place we struggle most. We built our lead and scored almost all our recent TD's on long TD's. Mularkey took that approach out, and as it turns out we turned it over twice in the Red Zone, when a FG would have sealed it. What makes it even worse is he took this approach while knowing our defense averages giving up 29 points per road game this year. Horrible coaching today

I got a kick out of the Gale Sayers thing, after watching the Fresno St game I said the same thing on here. Bush will be an excellent NFL player, my question is can he stay healthy? A guy that explosive is one knee injury away from losing most his game. Sayers only played 68 games because of two serious knee injurys, despite that he still made the hall. So even if Bush does have a short NFL career he will make a huge impact on whoever gets him.