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  1. On 12/5/2023 at 12:33 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

     

    I guess you mean Draft Investment. Because there has been a TON of Free Agency and trade investment into the Offense.

     

    That said - Josh, Jimbo, Torrence, Dawkins, Brown, Knox, Kincaid, Davis, Shakir were all acquired via the draft. Heck even Diggs was acquired via a 1st round pick. (And we'll forget about Singletary and Moss since they are gone)

     

    So outside of Morse and McGovern the entire starting Offense has been drafted.

     

    I agree we should snag a WR early (and maybe more than 1 in this draft), but "investments" have been made in the Offense.

     

    I think the main difference is more of our Offensive picks have hit, likely because of the Josh Effect, so we dont have to keep going back to the well like we do with DL (although one could argue 3 RBs and 2 early TEs is going back to the well).

     

    That’s fair, but is it any coincidence that they unit that has excelled is the one that McD has less control over?  I don’t think it is. McD is a defensive guy yet somehow always seems to ruin great performances by Allen and the offense.

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  2. 3 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/sean-mcdermott-on-questioning-late-game-decisions-hindsight-is-always-20-20

     

    This guy does not get it. At all. 

     

    No, it's not hindsight. It's being prepared for late game situations. He's not prepared for them after 7 years on the top job and after 22 years of coaching in the NFL. 

     

    I have never seen anyone take on less accountability than this clown. Who will the next scapegoat be? 

     

    I'm not sure at this point who I dislike more, McD the coach or McD the human being. 

     

     

    I honestly don’t want to hear anymore excuses from this guy. He prob cost us a chance at a sb in 21 and has been on a regression ever since. Enough is enough with his snide excuses 

  3. 4 minutes ago, Virgil said:

    Let me start by saying, there's going to be A LOT of assumptions in this post.

     

    Assuming the offense and Josh are back to where we saw them prior to Dorsey being hired, I'm starting to think that the players on the team knew Dorsey was the problem all along and only Diggs had the balls to say something.  If we believe what we hear from the media, Brady is using the same playbook and terminology, just calling the plays to his liking.  This isn't a new system by any means, yet Josh and the offense look magically like they did in 2021.  So, if nothing besides the person calling the plays changed, would that not imply the entire issue was Dorsey's ability to game plan and call plays, not the players or playbook itself?

     

    With that, assuming that Dorsey was "Allen's choice" and was let down when Dorsey was fired, is it an issue that Josh didn't speak up sooner?  Or that Josh didn't recognize the issues with the offense sooner?  I understand that players will always take the blame for losses and don't ever throw anyone else under the bus.  But if the problem was as simple as changing the plays, why didn't Josh take more command on the field with audibles or going to management sooner?  

     

    I don't think any of this makes sense.  Long story short.  For a simple fix, how was it not called out by the players sooner, unless it was behind closed doors.  

     

     

    Read all that for the only thing that made sense in all of it. The very last paragraph where you say “I don’t think any of this makes sense”. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

    Don't care that we have the melon farmer and some think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

     

    This team is in year one of a minimum three year playoff drought.  "Why, Pine?" You might ask. Well, it's simple, really. It's the salary cap. (All numbers 2024 per spotrac)

     

    First up is the melon farmer himself, at a whopping 47 MILLION dollars next year. He's gotta be a whole lot better than what he is at that price tag.

     

    Next we have the illustrious Non Miller with a 23 MILLION dollar cap hit for zero tackles, zero pressures, zero forced fumbles, zero production.

     

    The next nothingburger with an enormous cap hit is Dawson Knox, who's got us on the hook for 14.4 million dollars. 

     

    Tre White is next, feel bad for the guy, but his career is over. 16.6 against the 24 salary cap.

     

    That's 101 million dollars in cap hoovered up by four players, and we can't really do a whole hell of a lot to get out from under that load in 24 or 25. Now, that only half the equation. The other half is the replacements to be necessary in the upcoming two years:

     

    Hyde - washed

    Poyer - washed

    Milano - love the guy, but I have doubts about his future long term

    Morse - long in the tooth

    Davis - need better

    Epenesa/Groot - given the cap, no way we keep both

    Diggs - yes, diggs. He's 29 THIS YEAR. We're going to need to replace him soon.

     

    This list isn't all inclusive but you get the point. The point is, we're not WASTING the melon farmer's prime years, we've WASTED them. By the time this team next sniffs the playoffs, it'll be the year of our Lord two thousand and twenty-six, and Josh Allen will be 30 years old.

     

    Will he be better at 30 than now? I have my doubts.

     

    What's the fix? ***** if I know at this point but what I do know is this team, as it's constituted today is done now and into the intermediate term. Flane away haters, but numbers don't lie.

     

     

     

     

    You lost me at “He's gotta be a whole lot better than what he is at that price tag”.  Did you see the game last night?

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  5. 3 minutes ago, Brian Higgins hair said:

    ….Maybe, just maybe when you consistently miss on early round players like Basham, Elam, Epenesa, and destroy the cap by signing aging vets like Miller, Tre and Poyer, this is what happens. You are set up for heartbreak. 
    missing on picks happens, but this consistency?

    ‘McDermott holds a lot of responsibility, but Beane is no GM god.

     

     

     

    You honestly think Beane has all the say in who he drafts and signs?  I don’t. I think McD has his fingerprints all over this roster and nudges Beane on who to draft and get in here as FAs. Just look at the high picks on defense and all the FA dollars on that side of the ball. It has the stench of a defensive minded HC written all over it. 

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  6. 8 hours ago, Bangarang said:


    I’ve said it already that I think we have peaked under McD. A change seems needed at this point and we already have something most times don’t have when they are looking for a new HC: a franchise QB entering his prime. 
     

    Logic says we should be a top team for any potential HC.


    If we fire McD then I’d fore Beane as well. 

    I agree with the response to my post. However, I think Beane deserves the opportunity to hire his own HC. Gotta remember…it was McD that hired Beane…not the other way around. 

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  7. 7 hours ago, NewEra said:

    Let’s just say that we had fired Mcdermott rather than Dorsey….who would be the HC?  Dorsey?  Washington?  Kromer?  Shula?  Ehhhhhhh.

     

    We’d also need a defensive playcaller/DC.  This is the only move that could be made that would still give us a chance to make a run. Fire McD and the season would’ve been over immediately imo.  
     

     

    And the Kincaid drop on 3rd down.  It was equal to a turnover

    I understand that and it’s a good point. I guess I should have clarified…I meant after this season. Dorsey was probably just the beginning. 

    6 hours ago, BigDingus said:

     

    McDermott is the "MAIN" culprit? Not the players on the field failing to execute time & time again, or the person constantly giving the opponent extra drives every game?

     

    The game shouldn't have even been that close. The Bills shouldn't have been trailing until 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter. The 12 men on the field was just icing on the s*** cake.

    McDermott is pretty much the only remaining constant in all this. So at some point he needs to be held accountable. 

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  8. 20 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

    ....or they all could be right because they see the exact same things (failings) we as fans see.  Anyone who thinks McDermott will magically take this team to another level is delusional. 

    It’s funny to me how many people get butt hurt by stating the obvious. Most people have finally accepted what McD is, but there are still a few that won’t admit it. 

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  9. 3 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said:

    An offensive coordinator that doesn't understand the importance of a dominant running game.

    The Bengals are waiting for you to change nothing with the same results

    It starts at the top. You can blame Dorsey all you want, but this is how McD wants to play. It’s why him and Daboll butted heads. I’m not even saying Dorsey is great, but don’t run him up the flag pole and forget that this is how McD wants to play football. 

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  10. 6 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:

    They are undisciplined. It can be debated that McDermott is the problem, which in a way he is solely based on the team being undisciplined. Others point the finger directly at Dorsey which I won’t deny. Could Josh be responsible for a good dose of mistake filled games? This point of view I can understand as well and last but not least that as a whole the team really doesn’t have great players and/or contributors outside of Diggs which I personally don’t agree with. No, it’s being undisciplined. Undisciplined teams do not win consistently or convincingly. That 4th down penalty on Jordan Phillips was the icing on the cake for me. I have zero expectations for this team. If there isn’t a drastic change or improvement with this team in being disciplined they are going nowhere. In this scenario McDermott is solely responsible for them being a mess and either he addresses it and gets it corrected or he doesn’t and that people is the biggest problem with this team.

    I’ve said it on here before that it seems McD has lost this team. You can hear it in his voice at pressers. He doesn’t have any answers for losses or bad play. Deflects everything and gives canned responses. I honestly think this is because of 13 seconds. I think that the team rallied and played for each other last year, but the injuries, weird snow outs, and another early exit wiped their faith in McD. I can imagine a room full of grown men that have some bitterness in their hearts that this guy might have coached away their only shot at a SB. The younger players might not feel that way, however as they have many years to compete, but nothing is guaranteed. 
     

    Finally…you can see it in Allen. His body language is telling. He’s not a happy player right now and I think it’s because McD finally got the laid back version now that Daboll is gone and he can will his way on Dorsey. Allen did play with a purpose against the Bucs, and that was great to see. However, conservative play down the stretch set that game up for another last play deciding moment. I just don’t know how many times this team can rally behind mcd, but I guess it will all play itself out. 

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  11. 4 hours ago, NewEra said:

    But we have no idea how he was handled.  Pure speculation.

     

    No other teams would play Benford and Jackson over Elam?  Get a grip.  You’re about to drive off the edge with this nonsense.  Benford is pretty good.  Jackson has been improving season after season.  Both are great tacklers. 

     

    Elam was a press man corner that sucked at tackling. He’s always had problems being too handsy.  If we didn’t reach for him, he may have been a 3rd rd pick.  His upside is in his physical ability and that’s all.  He has an opportunity vs Jax and was able to get smoked on every 3rd down he was targeted
     

    maybe every team in the league would’ve been starting Shawn Oakman over DTs that actually had a clue how to play the position.  But probably not.  

    I’m not exactly sure why most people can’t see this. 

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  12. I’m sorry…Dorsey has his flaws…but I think the real issue is McD himself. I think one of the reasons they went with Dorsey in the first place is because he’s a young guy that would be grateful for the opportunity and would do what the HC wanted.  That’s why McD and Daboll bumped heads so much…Daboll did what he thought he needed to do. Dorsey doesn’t seem to do that and instead defaults to McD with whatever he wants. 
     

    There are plenty of issues to go around, but I think all of this starts with mcd. 

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  13. 1 hour ago, MPT said:

     

    The defense is missing its top 3 players at all different levels of the field for the year as well as other key players temporarily. They get some grace from me, especially when the offense gives the other teams short fields. The offense is completely healthy and looks like they've never played together despite being on Year 4 of continuity.

    Our backups should be able to keep one of the worst offenses in football under 25. Sorry…I’m not agreeing with you at all. The pats were in the red zone 5 times all season before yesterday and got there 5 times against us alone. Not good enough. 

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