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  1. 1 minute ago, Magnum Force said:

    Pretty much spot on.  Plus I could be wrong....only 1 draft to judge Beane....he likes high ceiling players.

    He also likes character. Wilkins has delivered at a high level for four years, has a masters degree (which proves he’s a hard worker), and has been a winner. He’s also prototypical for his position, which Beane also loves. 

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  2. 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said:

    Ahem.....firstly I'll start by saying I left my departing thoughts in my last comment.you sucked me back in. Congrats.

    Who in the world claims he has fallen? Fanspeak's mock draft SIM? Good grief. Many of who are believing hype? The folks here who live, breathe, and sleep football? Trust me, I watch tape. Many here do as well. If you think that Oliver makes it past the top half of the first round, you never even seen his play. And are crazy. We sit at 9. And that's a sweet spot for him. He's not falling at all. He's right where he always was. Top 5 on a good day, Top 15 on a bad day.

    What flags are you speaking of? His size? Bigger than Aaron Donald. His injury history? A bruised knee? His one time spat in a game he didn't play makes him uncoachable? C'mon man. Try to keep up. He has been consistently an animal and a great teammate and produces at a high level. And I may be the only one, but I sure hope to get him at 9 barring any unforeseen events like Williams, Bosa,Allen falling to 9. Any other year he'd be a lick top 5 pick. 

    Bull. He was considered a lock to be a top two pick in the preseason mocks. He’s not anymore. I couldn’t care less about if he’s an inch taller than Donald. He’s not nearly as strong by all accounts. And yes, he’s fallen in the eyes of many people that matter. That doesn’t include you. I watch a ton of football and I’m not taken in by hype. I actually watch the games and listen to the people who are paid for their opinions and then form my own. Oliver has fallen and is very unlikely to be picked by the Bills if they are given their choice of him or Christian Wilkins. 

  3. 1 minute ago, Mark92 said:

    I definitely feel like if we stay at #9 it will be DL.  Either DT or DE, with DT seeming like what will be available unless someone drops or we reach a little.  I would take Ed Oliver all day long.  He is an ideal 3 technique lineman but Houston didn't use him in that front much.  He could come in and fill the void left by Williams day one.  

    On a side note I would be interested to know who people would take if we had the #1 pick?  Bosa, Williams or Allen?  I would take Bosa hands down.  

    Quinnen Williams and I wouldn’t think twice. That guy is a wrecking ball and is nasty. Fills a huge void left by Kyle too. 

  4. 2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

    For each their own man. But I'll depart by saying this....top competition, 53 TFL, a knee sprain, and one fit on the sideline in a game that he wasn't even dressed for. Was once considered a top 5 pick, bigger than Aaron Donald, and a nasty disposition to go with all of that. We'd be lucky to have him

    Then why has he fallen so far in many people’s eyes?  That doesn’t just happen. Like I said, too many of you are still buying the hype when he considered a top 5 pick. He’s not anymore. That should tell you something. Too many flags there for me to ignore. 

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  5. 2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

    No Sir. Oliver is by far the superior talent as far as penetrating 3tech. The only one I'd rather have at that spot is Williams. Oliver dominated. He had one spat on the sideline. He's a team player. He has all the juice and size needed to excel at that spot, and the TFL's to show it. History of injuries? A bruised knee?

    Agree to disagree. Don’t want Oliver at all and don’t think Beane will go for him either. 

  6. 9 minutes ago, wppete said:

    Quinnen Williams

    Nick Bosa

    Josh Allen

    Rashan Gary

    Ed Oliver

    Jawaan Taylor

    Montez Sweat

    DK Metcalf

    TJ Hockenson

    Devin White

     

    I have a feeling that one of the top 5 will drop to us. I am really hoping there is a run on QBs in the top 10. 3 QBs in the top 10 would be awesome. 

     

     

    I think a top player will fall too. All it takes is a few qbs and a team taking a chance on DK Metcalf or a cornerback. I don’t want Ed Oliver. Not in the least. His measurable are a disappointment, he has a history of injuries, and he might have coaching issues. I would be very wary of his numbers. He might have taken advantage of weaker competition. 

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