Ethan in Cleveland
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Chase Young to Saints on a 1 year $13M guaranteed contract
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39761383/sources-chase-young-sign-13m-contract-saints
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3 hours ago, Beck Water said:
The thing is, he apparently had a career year last season....AFTER recovering from the torn Achilles.
LOL...do you know what career year means?
It's the peak or sometimes referred to as the anomaly year in a person's career. So by saying he had a career year last season, it implies that he won't reach that level of performable again. Or that his 4 INT season was an anomaly and he will regress to his prior level of play of 0,1,and 2 interceptions.
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6 hours ago, warrior9 said:
Deion lives in a fantasy world.
Yup that fantasy world of being a three sport college star, then the fantasy of playing at the highest level in football and baseball, and then the fantasy of winning championships, and then the fantasy of getting elected to the college and pro football HOF, then the fantasy of being selected to the all tiem top 100 NFL players of all time, and then the fantasy of raising a son good enough to play major college football, and finally the fantasy of being able to coach your son along the way...
Yup he sure does live in a fantasy world...
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1 hour ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:
Yep. His main reason for coaching Colorado was to develop his son. I predict they will have another mediocre season, but sanders will have good numbers.
Deion will do a good job hyping his son, who will ultimately be selected by Pittsburgh with a high draft pick, much to his chagrin. Ultimately , Shadeur will flame out of the NFL.
Meanwhile Deion will coach Colorado for another year after his son leaves. The season turns out to be his worst season of the three. At this point, even the most faithful Colorado fans have made a 180 and soured on him. They will buy him out from the remainder of his contract and he will transition into an analyst role on ESPN, where he spends all his waking moments blaming his sons poor play on "cold weather conditions".
Colorado was an embarrassing football program before Sanders got there. They had a very good program in the past, but like many other schools ie Nebraska, they just could no longer attract top talent. Sanders can recruit. He cut guys that are bottom tier Div 1 guys especially in the trenches. He makes no bones about it that he is there to train guys to get to he NFL, not make them successful student athletes. At least he is honest about it, as opposed to the lies guys like Saban or Meyer would say.
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Two things can be simultaneously true
Deion can say something stupid.
The city of Buffalo and NY state can do something stupid and not build a dome.
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Great move! Terribly underapprrciated player on this board. He plays the toughest position on the defense and does it with aplomb.
Until they win the SuperBowl he will have the second best moment in franchise history with his INT TD against the Ravens.
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2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:
I came into this idea with the assumption that if a lot of Day 3 picks are made that a few will not pan out. It's the "odds" thing.
With some luck the guys that don't make it can battle with the UDFA and cheap vets for the PS.
I could make the point again that guys like Doyle and Hamlin can be upgraded with a rookie, so that opens up more 53 spots.
A punter in the mix would definitely be in the works.
I agree some will not pan out. I just think there is a better chance some UDFA or two will make the team and he will use some of these picks to move around on day 2 and 3
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12 hours ago, CSBill said:
The Steelers digressed by adding Wilson.
He played reasonably well last year. He will have a good supporting cast.
He is a locker room cancer but Tomlin kept far worse guys in check in the past.
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I dont see roster spots for 10 or 11 guys after the moves he has already made.
1 RB
1 WR
1 OL
2 DL
1 LB
1 CB
1 S
1 P
If I stretch it I can get to 9 and that is taking a punter. Now if they cut Gilliam and want to add another TE or 2 RBs you might get to ten.
Add the fact an UDFA is no worse than a 7th round pick and my guess is he makes a max of 8 picks.
He will burn the others moving around.
If there is not an impact player at 28 he should drop back and get an additional day 2 pick. Maybe even try to get an additional day 2 pick next year.
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27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
lol Steelers.
their QB room since Big Ben left…..
Glass houses says Todd Collins, Doug Flutie, Rob Johnson, EJ, Tyrod, etc, etc, etc....
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59 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Steelers - Wilson gives them a shot to win the division
Ravens - solid moves and doubling down on what they do best is usually not wrong
Bears - if I was Chicago I would trade down and draft Harrison. I would give Fields another year with a better supporting cast. Worst case scenario you have made the offense much better and you draft another QB or find one in FA next year. That said maybe Caleb will be the answer.
Chargers - they got the best HC available. McD will be gone in a year or two having wasted 2 more years of Allen in his prime. Bills win the SuperBowl in 2024 if Harbaugh is the HC.
Bills have done just fine otherwise
On the other end of the spectrum, Atlanta invested in the wrong QB and the wrong HC. They will be terrible again.
I will quote myself...
Steelers making another great trade
I will keep Chicago on the list as at least they seem to have a plan and seem to be executing it.
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Steelers need to be charged with larceny.
They just robbed the Eagles and Bears!!!
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2 minutes ago, Einstein said:
Where did Florio spread a rumor?
His article said:
"The Bills have a decision to make this weekend. Trade him before the salary becomes guaranteed, cut him before it becomes guaranteed, let it become guaranteed and trade him after June 1, or let it become guaranteed (possibly with a restructuring to reduce his cap number) and keep him for another year."
He listed all 3 options the Bills could make. Keeping him, trading him, or cutting him. He also gave the details for what would happen if they decided to move on from him.
"His $18.5 million salary for 2024 becomes fully guaranteed this weekend. He has a 2024 cap number of $27.854 million. Trading him before June 1 would trigger a cap charge of $31.096 million. The Bills could cut him before the salary becomes guaranteed. If they do it with a post-June 1 designation, the Bills would take a cap charge of $8.849 million this year and $22.247 million in 2025. But, obviously, they’d get nothing for him."
Where is the rumor spreading in that? It was all factual information, and acknowledgement that Diggs salary becomes guaranteed this weekend.
Are you just making it up? Or are you applying a very low standard to "spreading a rumor" by labeling Florio questions of whether Diggs wants to be on the team and discussing the Bills options as "spreading rumors"?The facts are true, but speculating on those options is spreading rumors. Beane and McDermott have said nothing to indicate Diggs would not be back. So it is just a fan and media driven rumor. There is no reporting. It's just idle speculation. There are hundreds of players with a year or two left on their contracts. Why is Florio not commenting on them?? If it was reporting he would publish a table of all the players similar to Diggs and in the final year or two of their contracts. Florio is just making these comments to get clicks.
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Steelers - Wilson gives them a shot to win the division
Ravens - solid moves and doubling down on what they do best is usually not wrong
Bears - if I was Chicago I would trade down and draft Harrison. I would give Fields another year with a better supporting cast. Worst case scenario you have made the offense much better and you draft another QB or find one in FA next year. That said maybe Caleb will be the answer.
Chargers - they got the best HC available. McD will be gone in a year or two having wasted 2 more years of Allen in his prime. Bills win the SuperBowl in 2024 if Harbaugh is the HC.
Bills have done just fine otherwise
On the other end of the spectrum, Atlanta invested in the wrong QB and the wrong HC. They will be terrible again.
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
It’s not about liking a thread or not. It’s about your absurd witch hunt manufacturing false information that you spread to others and it infects this board and other threads and brings the quality of the board down.
Threads like this are like cancer…nothing good about it and it just spreads. Like nothing you post should be taken seriously after hanging your hat on what you know was a thread all about you to stir up nonsense.
Im not joking when I say this is the worst thread of the year. All it is really is a lightning rod for all the internet Karens who want to hear what they want to hear, ignore facts, and spew manipulated and falsified info to fuel a bias hatred of Diggs before anything legitimate or real has happened.
Well said!
The only thing missing is the inherent racism in some of the posts
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24 minutes ago, Einstein said:
Great question and really difficult to quantify.
In his prime, there are only a handful of defenders (all-time) id take over him. Very few players could take over games like could.Even when was think of today's very good players, how many really take over a game? Not many. Donald did that. A lot. And in key moments.
100% agree. But I'm talking history of the whole league. Just don't see DT making as big an impact as other positions.
Maybe phrase it differently. Where does he rank in DTs all time? Bob Lilly, Mean Joe Greene, Randy White, Merlin Olsen. He's probably not worse than 3rd on that list if not number 1!
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First ballot HOF for sure.
Where would most put him on top 100 of all time?
It's hard because DT doesn't make the splash plays.
I'd say maybe somewhere around 50-70.
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12 minutes ago, Mango said:
Sometimes Diggs goes fishing for controversy, drops something fairly innocuous, but also sort of not, then points at everybody and says "why are you guys always like this".
There is a strong possibility that in the next 24 hours his IG is a picture of him in the Caribbean with the caption "Ready for water*" and somewhere in the comments he says "why does everybody keep making a bid deal about typos. None of you have ever had a typo?"I agree with this. I think Diggs likes the spotlight a little controversy brings.
1 minute ago, njbuff said:There was this guy named Jerry Rice who played during that era, plus Andre had other HOFers on his own team. Andre didn't need to have 1,000 yard 100 catch seasons. If he had to, he CERTAINLY would have.
I love Diggs too, but he can't be the lone guy anymore.
100% agree he can't be the lone guy. You get no argument from me there. I would rather he get 90 catches if the other balls are going to Knox and Kincaid. If the other guys are stepping up it only gets easier for Diggs.
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2 minutes ago, njbuff said:
I agree with you on McDermott, but since McDermott's butt is NOW on the line, I think maybe he doesn't trust Diggs to carry him over the finish line. It's wrong, but who knows.
And Diggs is number 3 on the Bills all time WR list.
No one is taking Diggs over Reed #1 and Moulds #2.
Career stats is not the full measure of greatness. Again I can see how people say Reed is the best. Reed was my 3rd fav after Thurman and Bruce. Reed was amazing. Diggs and Moulds are both physically more talented than Reed. Reed had toughness and may have been the best run after catch WR in NFL history. Nobody caught Rice from behind, but nobody in my opinion ever ran with the ball better than Reed. All that said, Diggs has better speed, route running, and just as good hands as Reed did.
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13 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:
Andre with the gold jacket would like a word—and he could be a real firecracker himself…remember the helmet throw? We have a rich history of excellence at wide out imho—not ready to just hand the sole crown to Diggs just yet. Andre showed up in the playoffs iirc.
Andre was great but never was in the conversation for best WR in the league. He never had back to back 1000 yard seasons.
Diggs is better. Moulds was physically better than Reed but had ***** QBs. I'm not trying to take anything away from Reed. He was amazing but Diggs is better in every way except run after catch.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
I think his roster bonus should have triggered at the start of the league year in which case he will cost the Eagles about $900k this year.
I just read his base is $1.9M.
As others have pointed out a "quality" backup QB probably is the same cost.
As another posted pointed out, if Beane had done this and wasted 22 draft spots the board would rightly explode. Eagles got fleeced.
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4 minutes ago, njbuff said:
I don't know.
But, he is only 30, which isn't old.
I am purely speculating that the Bills brass is somewhat tired of Diggs dissappearing acts in big games.
It's the only reason to ever think about trading him.
When does the Bills brass get tired of McDermott's defense choking in games???
McDermott throwing Diggs under the boss was the lowest of the low for this loser coach.
I would take ten Diggs over one McDermott
I am trying not to get emotional but the people that what to run Diggs out of town really piss me off. Diggs is the best WR in franchise history and people want to run him out of town. I've said this before but he is the only one to stand up to McDermott and his joke of an OC. I love him for that!
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5 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
Isn't it possible for a team to trade for a player, then also agree to absorb the dead-cap hit?
I thought the Browns did something like that a few years back.
No.
You can't trade dead cap.
The Browns just inherited the bad contract and got a high draft pick for doing it. They had the cap space to absorb the stupid salary.
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3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:
Whats there to get? They traded for a backup that recently was a 1st round pick. For essentially a 4th round pick. If they liked him coming out, there like him better than a QB option in the draft in the 4th round
They dropped 22 spots and now have a backup on a 1st round pick salary.
Waste
Chase Young to Saints
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39761383/sources-chase-young-sign-13m-contract-saints
$13M guaranteed one year deal
Injuries have destroyed this kid's career so far. Saints get him cheap on a one year prove it deal.
I was hoping Beane would make a run at him but $13M is not in Bills price range this year