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    Romo goes banco

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    16 hours ago, Gugny said:

    Easily one of my least favorite players of all time. Scum bag.  

    Fa sho. Him and Haynesworth were trash bags 

    2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

    I'm an old far and not up on current lingo so let me ask...    What does going "banco" mean?

     

    Banco can mean bank or bench in Spanish.  Not sure if either meaning fits here.  

    Bankruptcy 

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    Rd 2, Pick 60: DB Cole Bishop, Utah

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    4 hours ago, Special K said:

     

    Due to the fact that McD always seems to get the most out of the players in the Secondary, Bishop has the potential to be the best Safety from this draft as well.

     

    It will also be interesting to see how he matches up covering the top TE's in the league.....I'm sure this is one of the main roles McBeane envision Bishop filling.

    Kincaid said Bishop got the best of him in college. We shall see

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    It really comes down to Brady

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    On 4/30/2024 at 7:54 AM, oldmanfan said:

    We’ve witnessed the usual stuff post-draft.  The second guessing of everything Beane did vs. those praising him to the heavens.  Constant arguments about 40 times and gauntlet drills and on and on and on ad nauseum.  How we needed to draft a speed guy even though there are several on the roster.  On and on and on.

     

    But the most important thing that will determine the success of guys like Coleman, what will determine the team’s success, is Joe Brady.  He is charged with putting the guys he has in a position to get open, whether that be short throws or long. People are talking about how teams will clog the middle because we don’t have sideline receivers or guys that can go deep.  While I would argue that, it’s on Brady to make sure we do by the packages and route trees he designs. He is also charged with getting Josh on board with finding open guys and getting them the ball.

     

    To me we have plenty of offensive talent, led by the most dynamic QB and dynamic player in the league.  I am encouraged by what I saw from Brady last year, but he must continue to improve.  He must continue to alter things week by week so opposing defenses can’t predict what’s going on, which is what ultimately cost Dorsey his job.  He must maximize Josh. I think he can, but time will tell.  Let’s hope he’s up to the task.

    It will come down to Brady and the O-line. It all starts in the trenches. Give Josh long enough and he’ll find the open guy. Torrence is going into his sophomore year and looks to be a good one. Brady also had 2 legit weapons at TE and a top 5 RB. More than enough talent to scheme up a respectable squad. 

    On 4/30/2024 at 8:43 AM, Gregg said:

     

    The league will push for Rodgers and the Jets assuming (BIG IF HERE) the 40-year-old can stay healthy :)

    Jets will definitely be in the mix. I think they nab a wildcard spot. Definitely a team I wouldn’t want to see in the playoffs since we seem to matchup w/ them horribly. A competent QB would’ve swept us the past 3 years. It is a big “IF” 

    Realistic "Transition Year" Expectations

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    1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

    My expectations are win the Super Bowl. I don’t hear the “transition” nonsense. Beane and McD don’t get a transition year after multiple years of falling short. Josh Allen is our QB. Hopefully you got him enough offensively to make a deep playoff run or it’s on Beane and McD. 7 years with the most talented QB in NFL history is long enough. Every year is Super Bowl or bust 

    Exactly. Buffalo has the single best offensive weapon in the NFL in Allen. The defense will be solid as always and the O-line is largely in tact from last year. Question marks are at WR, but I don’t see how the Chiefs are any better than us in that area or many of the Pats SB teams of the past? Cook is coming off a top 5 rushing season and Buffalo added a beast power RB that should contribute right away. We are also set at TE w/ 2 starting caliber guys. Getting younger doesn’t necessarily = getting worse. This is the sort of year where I think Buffalo will really make some noise while flying under the radar. I am definitely a homer, but trying to look at it objectively, I don’t really see how this team is any worse off than the one from last year who was a missed FG away from an AFCC game? I feel like a lot depends on Joe Brady. There’s enough talent to scheme up a competitive offense. 

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    Logic's Buffalo Bills Draft Review -- The more things change, the more they stay the same

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    19 hours ago, Logic said:

    I'll start by saying that this was far from my favorite Bills draft.

    I'm usually Mr Optimistic when it comes to draft classes, but I thought this year's class was just...fine. It was like if you fed Brandon Beane's draft tendencies and the Bills' needs into ChatGPT and asked it to spit out the 2024 Bills draft class. It was completely on brand, it filled the needs we all knew the team had, and it'll probably end up producing a few average players and a couple good ones.

    Ho-hum. Nobody in this class makes me stand up and say "that guy's really gonna help the Bills get over the hump and win a title". 

    Onto the picks:

    1. Keon Coleman - I was not a fan of this pick. For a team whose WR corps needed more speed and separation, this guy made the LEAST sense to me of all the 1st/2nd round WR prospects. Josh Allen has historically thrived with fast, shifty WRs who separate well, and has not clicked with big-bodied guys who struggle with separation. So adding Keon Coleman? It feels like "Square peg, meet round hole". He does have great athleticism and RAC ability for a man his size. He's also young to the position, having played football full time for only two seasons and being only 20 years old. I have concerns about his ability to play X in the NFL, and I'll believe that he's a better fit as a big slot until proven otherwise. Here's hoping I'm wrong about Coleman. The absolute ceiling I see for him is "Solid WR2". Not what I was hoping for in a star studded WR class and with a crying need at the position.

    2. Cole Bishop - Looks like he should be just what the doctor ordered at safety for the Bills. He seems to be more Poyer than Hyde, in that he's at his best in the box and playing the run, and he packs a wallop when he tackles. He appears to have untapped man coverage potential, with Dalton Kincaid saying Bishop usually got the better of him 1-on-1 at Utah. He also has freaky speed for the position and a great mental disposition. Should be an easy fit in the Bills' scheme. At the VERY least, I expect him to contribute from day 1 as a dime 'backer, but I'll ultimately be surprised if he doesn't wind up starting at one of the two safety spots by midseason. 

    3. Dewayne Carter - Good bull rusher, great motor, tons of experience, impeccable character. Seems like a 1T/3T 'tweener. Quickly apparent from his interviews that he's one of the smartest, most likable, easy to root for guys you'll ever see in the NFL. Should be a quality rotational tackle for the Bills and seems like, in time, he will provide quality leadership and a steadying presence on the D-line. May never be a big play guy, but may at least be a "dirty work" guy who allows others around him to thrive.

    4. Ray Davis - Hard running inside guy with great vision, ability to get skinny, contact balance, and underrated breakaway ability. Had the most receiving TDs in 2023 of any SEC running back in 25 years. Should provide a nice change of pace to James Cook without the Bills necessarily losing anything in the pass game when he comes on the field. An older prospect, but I don't care, because he's a running back, and he won't be here past his first contract anyway. Another "likability" and leadership All-Star. Davis should provide steadiness and depth, but doesn't do anything that wows you, and I'm not sure he moves the needle much on offense.

    5. Sedrick Van Pran - Tons of starting experience at Georgia. Has some traits reminiscent of Mitch Morse in terms of quickness, twitch, and ability on the move. Stop me if you've heard this one before -- lauded for his leadership. Should provide a good backup plan to Connor McGovern at center and/or provide competition at that position. It will not shock me if this guy is starting by year two. Seems like a great value at this point in the draft. One of my favorite picks.

    5. Edufuan Ulofoshio - What do you want me to say? You didn't think the Bills would let a draft pass them by without selecting a late round special teams linebacker, did you? The room is starting to get a bit crowded with Milano, Bernard, Williams, Morrow, Spector, and Ulofoshio. However...the Bills lost ST stalwarts Dodsen, Matakevitch, and Neal, and needed some reinforcements there. That's what Ulo seems to be. I'll be surprised if he ever amounts to more than that, but at this point in the draft, that's what you're getting.

    5. Javon Soloman - Undersized speed rusher (though he does have a great wingspan for the position) who had absolutely eye-popping production at Troy, where he out-produced Demarcus Ware and Osi Umenyoira. He can be a designated pass rusher and special teams guy and can learn from his idol Von Miller, after whom he says he models his game. Very much a boom/bust prospect, with seemingly equal potential to be the steal of the draft or an outright bust. I liked this pick a lot, and I'm betting on the former over the latter.

    6. Tylan Grable - What do you want me to say? Did you think the Bills were gonna let a draft go by without taking a project offensive tackle late? I don't have much to say about this guy. He's just like Tommy Doyle or Luke Tenuta before him: a developmental tackle prospect who's a long shot to make the 53-man roster. With VanDemark and Collins already in place as backup OTs, it's hard to see this guy making the roster.

    6. Daequan Hardy - Special teams guy. Standout punt returner and gunner. I usually look to Bills' late round corners with excitement, because they're usually big-bodied guys with zone eyes who only dropped due to underwhelming athleticism. Hardy does not appear to fit that mold. He appears instead to be a punt return candidate and, beyond that, I'm not sure where he'd fit in. His only hope is as a nickel, but the Bills are obviously set there with Taron Johnson.

    7. Travis Clayton - At least this one's fun. A guy from the International Pathways program who has never played a down of football in his life. But he's 6'7", 301 lbs and runs a 4.79. The hope is that he turns into the next Jordan Mailata. A fun story and will be fun to track, but obviously a longshot and likely a practice squad guy at best.



    Overall, it was clear that leadership, maturity, and experience were high priorities for the Bills this year. Again and again, they picked guys who were team captains and lauded for their leadership abilities. Given all the leadership that walked out the door this offseason, that certainly makes sense. Again and again, they picked guys with lots of starting experience, guys who shined at the Senior Bowl, and guys who have their heads screwed on straight. Given that they will be counting on some of these guys to contribute from day one, and given that they seem to be doing a bit of a locker room reset, this also makes sense. 

    The reason that I am ultimately unexcited by this year's draft class is this: I wanted the Bills to prioritize building around Josh Allen. I wanted them to either take a swing for the fences by trading up for a star receiver, or -- failing that -- to go the Packers route and draft a handful of skill position players to surround him with. If they were unable to acquire great quality, then I hoped they would at least acquire quantity. I fear that in choosing Keon Coleman, they may have failed to achieve the "quality" goal, and in refusing to draft any other receivers, they also failed to achieve the "quantity" goal. And Ray Davis is the definition of "uninspiring" at running back. He'll be a fine depth player and grind out tough yards, I'm sure, but he doesn't move the needle much on offense. Neither Coleman nor Davis seem like they upgrade the offense. Just...status quo at best.

    In a year where I felt the very TOP priority was to improve on offense, I feel the Bills failed to meaningfully do so. In an offseason where I hoped they'd make a bold move or two to try to find an elite player for this offense, they failed to try. After hearing "Josh needs more weapons" for a couple years running, he now seems to have less. The WR corps seems to have regressed, and seems to lack any true downfield explosiveness or viable deep threat. 

    This draft class was not a disaster, by any means. it seems FINE. Just fine. Keon Coleman doesn't scream "Alpha WR1" to me. Ray Davis seems like an average NFL backup. Cole Bishop and Javon Soloman seem to perhaps have playmaking potential on defense. Beyond that -- meh.

    When the Bills decided to go young and start a roster reset, I had hope that Beane was gonna try to do things differently, since the old way he was doing things didn't get the Bills over the hump. They've been hitting too man singles and doubles over the years and not enough home runs. Instead, he appears to be doing things exactly the same way this time around. He seems to be content to collect character/culture guys, whose ceiling is "good, solid NFL player", rather than taking any risks or big swings for potential stars. He hasn't really taken those swings, to my estimation, since the Allen/Edmunds class. THAT'S why I'm disappointed in this draft class. It seems fine, solid, steady, and logical, but it doesn't seem like it'll move the needle much.

    I will move on to hoping that the post June 1st money infusion brings us a quality veteran receiver and maybe a pass rusher either via free agency or trade. Failing that, it would be hard for me to conclude anything other than that it looks like the Bills are poised to take a step back this year. 2025 looks promising in terms of cap space and draft capital, but if it's gonna continue to be "business as usual" for Brandon Beane, then I'm not sure how excited I should allow myself to get for that. 

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    In regards to Josh preferring small shifty receivers, has he ever really had a legit big bodied outside WR to work with in his career? I don’t think he prefers small guys, they’re just easier to find than a legit big, physical X receiver. Kelvin Benjamin was the closest he got, but he was washed by the time he got to Buffalo. I actually think w/ Allen’s playing style, he would benefit greatly from a big guy to chuck the ball up to and high point it. 

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    Would the Chiefs had ended up with Worthy without the trade with the Bills?

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    14 hours ago, Einstein said:

    No way to know. But even if they would have, it shouldn’t have been through our handing him to them.

     

    We are the joke of the NFL right now. Seeing stuff like this everywhere (and Greeny was a Bills ally all last season, defending us when no-one else would):

     

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    Im not one for cussing, but it pisses me off.

     

     

    Coleman is a huge question mark, but I thought the draft was pretty solid. Who cares what the media says? Nobody will know until 3 years from now anyways. It’s all speculation at this point. I bet 90% of these guys never did any research on our draft class besides an occasional highlight reel and some mock drafts. Remember the massive hate after Beane took Allen over Rosen? Allen is on the cover of Madden and Rosen is the probably selling insurance somewhere. I could give a **** less who defends the Bills or not. Most of these analysts don’t have the knowledge or credibility to form a real opinion. I’d rather listen to someone like Greg Cossell who actually knows the intricacies the game or even some of the posters on this board over idiots like Stephen A Smith or Nick Wright who are total clout-chasing blowhards. 

    Still a giant hole at saftey?

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    4 hours ago, DC Grid said:

    It seems like the Bills keep getting the same guy at safety.  Namely an in the box safety.  Cole Bishop is now the 3rd in the box guy they’ve signed up for next year as Rapp and Edwards are also in the box safeties.  So who on the roster can play deep center?  Poyer was a phenomenal in the box saftey and they’ve replaced him in triplicate, but Hyde was a great center fielder (who had lost a step) and there doesn’t seem to be anyone on the roster who can even come close to filling this void.  I realize there are a couple of other guys on the roster like Hamlin but none of these guys have ever put anything on tape that merits consideration as a starter at any position. This all seems particularly troubling in a league where the top teams all have great deep options that will run wild if the Bills don’t have a dependable deep center.  

    Hamlin is going to be cut this TC. He’s terrible and I only think they kept him around last year out of pity. 

    32 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

    Is there still the possibility that Elam moves over to safety as the cover guy?

    I hope so because he isn’t cutting it as a CB. Occasionally, he makes a splash play bc of his athleticism, but is way too inconsistent. One of Beanes worst draft picks. 

    Speed: I do the math here

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    5 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

    I see a lot of numbers trying to justify him being slow. It is what it is. He's slow. Hopefully he can make it up elsewhere (jump balls, catch radius, etc).Math What GIF by Riki Barker

    Anquan Boldin 4.71 

    Larry Fitz 4.63 

    Jerry Rice 4.71

     
    didnt stop any of these guys. Diggs was no burner either. 

     

     

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    If you’re upset about the WR room - BLAME DIGGS

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    50 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

    Diggs wanted to win and he saw everyone else was just happy with hanging afc east banners. Most of you are going to love this team no matter what and that's your prerogative but he has no ties here and only has a few years left in his career and he wanted to win at least once and he didn't think he could do it here so best of luck to him. I hope he finds what he's looking for

    If he wanted to win so badly he should’ve caught that dime from Josh that hit him right in the hands. Good riddance. 

    [Vague Title]

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    4 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

    When I was in my 20s and 30s I loved the Draft.  Couldn't get enough content or coverage.   Would get upset about picks, talk about reaches and value picks.

     

    In my 40s I take it for what it is.   Teams picking players that they think will fit their programs based on educated guesses.   I don't down people on this board for having opinions, because some of you really understand the game.    Bottom line is somewhere between 60-70% of the guy's taken won't be anything beyond depth.

     

    The Draft stopped being fun when the Bills got good.   I am more than happy for that.   It also gives me more reason to trust the guy's involved in their front office.   If you want something fun to do instead of the Draft, the NBA playoffs are a great alternative.

     

     

    Go Knicks 🏆

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    10 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

    Clearly Beane is in rebuild mode. More bodies on rookie deals while eating massive dead cap. His sights are set on 2025. 2024 is build but be competitive, but we don't have the horses to compete with the elite AFC teams. That and we just gave our nemesis another cheetah.

    Oh, give me a break 😂 this board is so over dramatic. We were a missed chip shot FG away from the AFCC while dealing w/ massive amounts of injuries across the roster. The Bills are not in “rebuild” mode and def have the horse power to compete w/ anyone in the division. Crucial guys are going into the season w/ valuable experience and ready to break out, the O-line/D-line are solid, Cook is coming off a career year, a healthy Bernard/Milano may be the best LB coverage duo in the NFL, and we have somebody named Josh Allen. Not to mention we just got rid of a cancerous locker room diva. 

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    Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)

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    Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:


    Well safety and wr are both needs. Most disagreeing with DeJean who I assume we would play at safety seem to want a wr instead. But their is zero consensus on who the next top 5-6 wr  off the board are. 

    We know McDermott loves versatile players and DeJean can play any position in the secondary, but yeah primarily safety. WR will be great value in the 2nd round with a possible trade up 

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