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As others have said, it's not so much his speed or 40 time or gauntlet time or...it's the fact that when you watch him at FSU or MSU he doesn't seem to be getting open.

Sure. Josh makes bad decisions and throws into coverage sometimes, especially if it's to a trusted option like Diggs. More often than not, his time to throw is a little on the high side and it's because he won't throw unless he sees someone open. He'll scramble for more time just to give guys more time to get open. Contrast this to other QBs who will actually throw guys open. Processing when and who to throw to is still one of the areas Josh can really improve.

Yeah clearly Beane thinks they can coach him up. There are definitely things to like. The thing majority of people agree on is he struggles to gain separation which we know is the one main trait Josh needs from his receivers (or he won't throw). Coleman is a Bill and so I will cheer for him. I just think it may take some time to figure out how he can help.

I think some picks are really more just best player on your board. This draft it seemed a lot like we passed on better players available to take guys at need positions. Like, we had some gaping holes at WR, S, back up DL and RB, and C. Lo and behold we wind up draftng basically in that order. If you go back through Beane's other drafts, it's felt more like a mix between BPA and need. Edit: I'm not criticizing either. We had to do it, and for the most part I really like who we picked, Soloman included.

We're going to have to sign someone or make a trade. It's a rebuild year anyway though I'm happy we can at least field a decent team now with some of the other selections. Our big outside wr splash is going to have to be next year's draft where we have some ammo. I'm also not giving up that we realize Keon needs slot snaps and move him there eventually. It could still work.

Everyone gets we're going to try Coleman at X. The problem people are having is his college profile (bad man or press, decent zone) often doesn't translate to X in the pros. Where you have seen it translate is by moving guys like that into the slot. e.g. St. Brown, JuJu, Rice, Boyd, etc.

You really have to hand it to Beane. I'm still a little choked about the Coleman pick but he's pulled a rabbit out of his hat with where the roster/cap was two months ago vs. now. Somehow we went from no options to being able to be a little selective.

Overall, I like our draft. Beane had three jobs: 1. resist the temptation to trade up for a receiver; 2. meticulously fill out our roster so that we actually have enough depth to compete in our rebuild year; 3. find a receiver with one of the picks we do have. He succeeded imo. I do think there's a reasonably high probability Keon busts with us and makes it on his next team, or we rearrange the wr group so we can make Coleman a big slot. It's just super hard to understand what we were thinking after the Samuel signing. Anyway, I'm over it. We can find a stud receiver next year. We filled a tremendous amount of holes and can actually field a team now. I know a lot of fans seemed to think we'd just find guys off the street or something (after trading away all our best capital to move up in rd 1), but I was pretty nervous going back to end of last season. Beane has pulled a rabbit out of his hat with this roster.

I would think they'd add another end to camp. Hopefully this kid is plug and play in which case we have four assuming Von can do anything. I like it. It's looking more and more like our post June 1st moves will need to include a vet wr though.

Production over size. Sounds about right for end of 5th round. This is another need pick imo.

Decent case made here he winds up as a big slot

I'll admit I started to get nervous after the Davis pick. Like, no way we're going into this season with McGovern+Edwards combo as our only viable option. As long as VPG can start our line makes sense again. Also, we need maulers so we can run the ball a lot because we don't have any receivers.

Yeah maybe. The fact we traded out of 144 is a bit of a tell about what we think of the rest. The trade was good value but it's not like we can't use more talent this year. My larger point was just that I'm not sure we got the best player with our picks due to heavy emphasis on need this year, and maybe this was the year we had to do that. Next year we'll be able to go BPA with more high value picks and the cupboard replenished a bit.

Rest will be depth and camp fodder. However this finishes up, we got a starting WR, S, and C which were arguably our three biggest needs. Plus we got rotational depth at DT and RB which were also needs. Beane went need early and often but this was a year where we needed to do that.

It’s crazy how Beane seems to have gone most pressing need with each pick. Some will say but what about WR? We went there first. We have other needs. We’ll take another WR before the day is done. We needed a C. End of story.

You seem to be forgetting the part that a big reason why we got to those games vs. Chiefs is because of the foundation McD built in the first place. It's not an accident that we've had a bunch of top 5 scoring defenses since he took over. I'm not trying to make excuses for him either because Reid clearly has McD's number, but claiming that he's a "burden" we need to overcome or battle "apologist propaganda" seems like gross hyperbole. Anyway, we clearly needed another DT to fill out the rotation. Hopefully, Carter is up to the challenge because he's going to play.

One of pre-draft videos compared him to Kenny Golladay (Lions version). It's not that far off imo.

I know next to nothing about him but going safety then DT is hardly a surprise. We needed help there. I'm sure we'll take another WR tomorrow. I'd have preferred we draft a C though this draft seems light on them. Carter will play snaps because we need him to. McD rotates. We need another end as well.

McD got his younger McD

I assume we're just going BPA here. We already went for need. Best guy left among WR, S, DL, C.

Not sure who's still out there but I think it's definitely needed. McD likes to rotate so you know guys who aren't our starting four will be playing meaningful snaps.

We could really use another guy along the line (edge or inside). Have to wonder how long we'll wait to address that.

I will say that although it's easy to be down on the pick for all the reasons mentioned and make jokes about Allen picking his wr Ken Dorsey, it does make me feel better than this was one of the guys Josh wanted. Maybe that's a relationship that will help make the team dynamic better.

Unless there's another huge run on WRs, I don't understand why we picked Coleman here. At least trade back. Also, we have six years worth of data telling us that Josh needs receivers who can gain separation. He waits for guys to get open instead of throwing them open. Maybe Coleman is a better blocker than I'm giving him credit for, but this just doesn't seem like an ideal fit.

Oh no lol