Seoulofstone
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6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
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As Wilson seeks to hold Carroll and the organization accountable, others question whether anyone can do the same for the quarterback himself. That has been a sensitive subject ever since Sports Illustrated and ESPNpublished stories years ago suggesting Carroll coddled Wilson to the detriment of the team. After Richard Sherman picked off Wilson in a June 2014 practice, then yelled at the young quarterback and threw the ball at him, Carroll met with team leaders and told them to take it easier on Wilson. Carroll, multiple sources said, protected and enabled Wilson, undermining the two words he had built his whole program on: Always compete.
This current situation with Wilson, several sources believe, is the inevitable consequence of that special treatment.[/quote]
Woof. The Wilson defamation project. How can he be criticized for something Carroll did? Insanity.
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19 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
The Seahawks defense in the 2nd half of the season didn't give up more than 23 points in any game.
After they lost to the Bills, the defense completely changed it around.
Yes, there is blame to go all around but Wilson's play also dropped off. That coach that said he's been killing the protections and seeing ghosts....you don't think there's any truth to that?
Absolutely fair.
However, let's be truthful, all quarterbacks aren't given fabulous rosters and supportive coaching. Can we fairly judge Wilson against say Tom Brady?
The Seahawks continue to be a perennial playoff team and they are not a good roster. It's because of Wilson. Messaging from coaching seems inconsistent about who they want to be and they went away from pure passing despite it being their strength.
Wilson might be able to overcome an abysmal OLine or an abysmal/average defence but both? They still made the playoffs in a tough division.
As for the coach? Any player can be criticized for a single play and maybe the coach is saying he outran his protection based on a play where he did that. But if it comes to that did he not make numerous incredible plays off the back of successful escapes from the pocket. It seems churlish to criticize him when he had been sacked so many times and conditioned to extend plays. That's blame laying. Wilson has been taking a pummeling and he's getting criticized for being skittish?
Man I would want out of that too.
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13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I also said WTF is wrong with Wilson. He went from leading the MVP race to a below average QB in the last 1/4 of the season.
Could it be 300lb men continually crashing into him and the relentless pressure to score 30 points in order for his team to even be in a game?
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44 minutes ago, LEBills said:
Man, I remember when his brother Obi blew up the combine, was drafted by the raiders in the second round and promptly was a bust.
He may be a better player but probably can get a better player at 30. Though I do think we will draft a few CBs this year.
I hated that Obi went to the raiders. He was all traits but needed a lot of work. Terrible landing spot. His brother may take a lesson from Obi's mistakes, but of course he can't control where he goes. We know that the NFL values traits so I wouldn't be surprised if he gets pushed up the board in a weak CB class.
I actually think the Bills would be a good fit but #30 is a bit high for me.
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So this is an interesting article, projecting possible upcoming NFC cuts by Greg Rosenthal.
https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfc-cut-candidates-viable-releases-and-potential-surprises
The name that pops here, (especially if Watt goes elsewhere) is Chandler Jones. Definitely a guy that the Bills might want to take a look at.
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16 minutes ago, JohnC said:
If Wentz is willing to be receptive to better coaching and tone done his extemporaneous game and make quicker decisions there is no reason why he shouldn't return closer to his more successful past. The Colts have a good OL and a good running game. That was exhibited when we played them in the playoffs. He needs to use those assets to his benefit. I'm not comparing Josh to Wentz but what differentiated Josh last year was the quantum leap he made in understanding the game and more quickly responding to the play. Reich is the right coach to get Wentz back on track.
I completely agree with you. Listening to Ben Solak of the draft dudes (he covers the eagles), he said that Wentz thinks he can do more than he actually can and caused a lot of his own problems. A lot of that was due to his attitude.
That said as you mentioned the guy that can fix him is Reich.
One thing is for sure, if he does fail with his new supporting cast this upcoming year, and it's not impossible, he could be about done. I hope for him he can turn it round. I will always feel bad for him. He must feel like his big moment was taken from him in Philadelphia.
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9 minutes ago, freddyjj said:
I would guess Harrison > Short right now. and much more affordable.
I really like Harrison as rotational depth on a cheap deal. But, in no universe has he ever shown ability to rush the passer like Short. The gamble here is can Short be fit. But his floor is high if the price is right.
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8 minutes ago, Doc said:
Williams was also All Pro (2nd, in 2017), is young and was played out-of-position when he returned from injury. Very different from this situation.
Short was also 2nd team All Pro. Also injured prior to availability. Also a solid starter available on the cheap.
So there is 5 years age difference but to offset that he would be in a line rotation backing up Oliver, not a guy who will play 100% of snaps at tackle.
If he is a let down and costs say 2 mill, you still got a starter for a year and saved Butler and possibly Jefferson cap hit.
For me, It's not about Short getting 11 sacks and being depended on.
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26 minutes ago, NewEra said:
To those that say he’s done, have you actually watched him? Or just look at his stats and injuries and assume?
The problem is he hasn't been able to stay on the field. When he has, he has been a good starter-not a Fletcher Cox or Donald but still effective.
It's understandable that Panthers fans are bitter, because of his enormous and wasted cap hit in the past 2 years. He was grossly overpaid and couldn't come close to value for his post SB extension.
Obviously, the Bills can offer a top class facility and there is familiarity with McDermott and Washington as well as former teammates. Assuming he came cheap it makes sense. The value in getting him would obviously be in releasing Butler and Jefferson creating cap space elsewhere.
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8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
So replace average ex Carolina Panther with washed up ex Carolina Panther? Love it!
Well Butler was never good. Short was once good. But it's totally fair to say he may have nothing left.
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He's been a total waste of space since he signed the extension in Carolina. I totally get why everyone on here immediately rejects him but hold your horses. He is already getting over 9 million from Carolina to not play for them. You could probably get him for close to vet minimum and cut Vernon Butler freeing up cap space. You're upgrading at 3T for less money and you wouldn't be depending on him because Oliver is the future. This could happen.
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This was a stupid and arrogant hire by Meyer. He tried to defend it and just two days later is walking it back. Not a good look for a new regime.
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8th overall
Kickoff returns 1st
Punt returns 4th
Kickoff coverage 3rd
Opponent starting point 2nd
Punting 1st
Net Punting 5th
I'm always curious to see how these rankings play out and the Bills and Heath Farwell deserve credit for marked improvement this year.
For me it was the only phase that had success in the championship game though obviously there is scant consolation in that.
The fake punt against NE is a feather in their cap too, especially considering NE's domianance in this phase again this year.
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Really surprised by how badly Mahomes played. I really thought he would be able to raise their level.
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I'm intrigued to see his market. It won't be 3 mil or 18 mil. I think someone will talk themselves into giving him 10.
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18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I'm making my way through the cover1 video on the Bills 2020 run game
The Society for Decent Blocking at Bills TE Position says 😱
I don't doubt he was the best run blocking TE on show. But the run game wasn't exactly devastatingly successful....
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1 hour ago, Doc said:
Is Carr even worth one 1st round pick?
Only one quarterback has a win against Mahomes this season.
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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
IMO injuries aren't the problem with Cam's throwing.
I'd argue it's more about mechanical problems and a relative lack of concentration on the fundamentals of the motion (not to even mention the lack of good players around him on offense). He's always gone in and out of tune with his motion, as Chris Simms has mentioned. He's never been all about throwing, and he's always had accuracy problems. He had games this year where his throwing looked pretty good. Then some where it looked awful.
I think his injuries would sooner affect his legs and his running, the area that's still his strong point.
I share your worry about Josh's long-term health if he keeps running. I think he's going to start sliding more and more as he grows older and cannier. We're seeing it already.
It's your first line that I disagree with, at least in part. At best Cam was an average passer, but combined with his running that was enough to make him MVP like Lamar. But the shoulder injury had made him a bad passer so that teams can key on the run. He once had a strong arm and a low 60% completion which was good enough to keep the D guessing. We also never got to see him behind a competent OL or with an elite WR who makes you look great.
The sad thing is that he lied to Carolina coaches about his injury because he wanted to compete. Brave but stupid. He's done now. He should retire.
Josh doesn't need to seek contact like Cam, but the designed runs are good to keep the D honest. In the playoffs when the Offense became one dimensional the Bills made it easier for the D.
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Donte Jackson. Speed.
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6 minutes ago, H2o said:
True but I don't like any of their boards. I find the drafttek site interesting because of their blurbs about fit from actual team fans, but perhaps due to the nature of the site first round players still drop to late rounds because the guys doing it 'forget' they are there. Thus the composite spits them out in weird places. Anyway it's fun. Im sort of glad I haven't paid for a feature that allows trades. I would spend my whole life doing mocks.
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Draft Network mock is preferable because you rarely find better players dropping. It gave me:
R1 Alijah Vera- Tucker LT/G flex
R2 Jackson Carman RT
R3 Jabril Cox LB
R5 Kylin Hill RB
After that there wasn't a name which I recognized so I haven't included beyond R5.
I like this draft because the first 3 are slated to be the biggest FA losses. Williams, Milano, Feliciano. Tucker in particular would-be an amazing fit since he plays LT and guard.
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The boards on the fanspeak mock always seem to be unrealistic. However this is what it gave me:
R1 Micah Parsons
R2 Pat Friermuth
R3 Dillon Radunz
R5 Daivyon Nixon, Jonathan Cooper
R6 Amon-Ra St Brown
R7 Pete Werner
Awesome draft. Great value. Exceptionally unlikely.
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On 1/24/2021 at 8:26 PM, TheFunPolice said:
Serious question...
If the whole COVID unit gets tickets, will they be able to do to the super bowl?
I wondered this. The cynic in me is saying that these guys getting free tickets is because they all come with the benefit of having been given the vaccine. Thus they can pad the attendance but not turn the event into a super spreader. Cunning.
OT. I like to see names that aren't concensus pop up, they are supposed to be thought provoking rather than predictive exercises. However this seems like overdrafting for need.
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1 hour ago, Kwai San said:
My wish list would be;
Roberts for sure ( EVERY kick was out of the end zone....you saw the respect there ) Amazing to me no one sees his value! How many times did the Bills have a short field due to him??
Milano would be nice
Feliciano and Willams
Wallace at a team friendly deal....can't have enough depth there....
Roberts return yardage is impressive. Still hasn't broken one for a TD though. He's old, and Cordarelle Patterson is a free agent.
The Athletic: Russell Wilson and Seahawks growing further apart
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Me too. I don't know why he would choose to start playing badly though. That makes no sense. On the other hand, we know that they changed their offense away from pass. We also know that he had taken a lot of hits at that point. It's too easy to lay the blame at his feet. I hope they deal him and answer the question for us.