Seoulofstone
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7 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:
Wow that’s a terrible idea
OK. Why? You don't like the player? You don't want to give up the first rounder? You're convinced the 25th pick will get us a guaranteed starter on a rookie deal?
I liked the Rousseau pick last year. But he struggled to make an impact for most of the year. If he comes through for us its great, but nothing is guaranteed through the draft.
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You're right, he has a year left on his rookie deal. Honestly, I dislike the LA model. But including the cap relief from releasing Morse it makes a ton of sense to me. If paying him next year is a deal breaker what is a reasonable price for him? A 2nd?
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There has been some talk about the future for the Bills at center. Morse had a good season and Is a reliable good quality player.
The questions surrounding him are based on two factors. Firstly his motivation and willingness to continue in the context of his consussion history. If he is happy to stay the best outcome is surely to keep that continuity and welcome him back. The reason that Morse has been discussed so much is because he is low-hanging fruit when it comes to cap-savings. Over the Cap has him as an $8.5 million cap saving.
The question here is not so much whether or not Morse is a player we want to keep as one of freeing up cap space and finding a quality young player at this key poistion. In the draft, both Tyler Linderbaum and Zion Johnson who demonstrated versatility at the senior bowl taking snaps at center, could be solutions but its equally possible that they are both gone when we pick. Its also not impossible that they could struggle in the step-up to the league.
That's why this trade from bleacher report is an intriguing idea to me.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2953611-the-ideal-offseason-trade-scenario-for-every-nfl-team
The Buffalo Bills could save themselves money and upgrade a key position on the offensive line with two moves that make a lot of sense.
The first is to cut Mitch Morse. The center is set to be the fourth-highest-paid at his position in 2022, but the majority of his cap hit ($8.5 million) would become cap savings if they release him.
The second would be to call up the New Orleans Saints and work out a trade to bring in Erik McCoy.
The Saints face an uphill climb in creating cap space now and in the future. They are currently slated to be more than $75 million over the cap. McCoy doesn't make a ton of money. He's only owed $3.4 million in the final year of his rookie deal, but the Saints would save nearly $3 million by trading him.
That might not seem like much, but it also takes off the pressure to sign him to a long-term deal. The Bills, meanwhile, would get a reasonable replacement for Morse at a much cheaper price. McCoy has only allowed two sacks over his first three seasons in the league, per PFF.
I like the idea of taking a proven young player on a rookie contract from a cap strapped non-contending team. They have a plug and play replacement in Cezar Ruiz too. I would be ok with spending our first round pick on this player helping create cap space through Morse's release.
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Bradberry is very good. He played in a division with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, peak Michael Thomas, Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley. He was always matched against their best guy. So in that context 'average' numbers are excellent. Was he drafted while McD was there? If not Beane certainly was.
But the cap number would be a problem so I don't see it happening.
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On 1/26/2022 at 5:48 PM, dave mcbride said:
It already has worked for the Rams. They're in the championship game and playing at home.
And it failed for at least 30 other teams this year. Some of whom will be suffering the consequences for some time to come. Even if they win the superbowl if the team has a sustained period of absolutely stinking as a consequence, is this the right way to run a franchise? If your answer is yes i would suggest to you that bathing in the reflected glory of a bought title mortgaged on the long term stability of your franchise makes you a bad fan.
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28 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
Is it really that hard to understand my point?
The Chiefs and Rams, both perennial playoff teams, identified their weaknesses last off-season and aggressively pursued them via FA to help get them back to the SB… the Bills took a more conservative, careful with money approach. I hope they adopt more of that aggressive behavior, but they are conservative by nature.
The Chiefs strengthened through the draft. Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith were vital to their improvement. You are cherry picking. Besides they haven't won anything yet.
The poster child for this strategy are the Rams. Stafford, Ramsey, Miller, Whitworth. Lets see if it works for them.
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25 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
This is called cherry picking Scott.
You know who else were aggressive in the offseason?
- Pats
- Jets
- Jags
- Dolphins
- Tennessee
A worst case scenario is the Saints. 74 million over the cap. Brees retired . Payton knew it was a bad situation. So hes gone. They won't be competitive for 5-10 years. Only one team a season can 'win now".
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I loved the way Josh kept stepping up again and again. He's the best QB in this league. The Bills will win a superbowl with him. I am confident of that.
Today the team didn't deserve to win. The future still looks bright though.
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16 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:
So Jerry is already a UFA and Addison is essentially a UFA as he has a 2 million buyout that is in effect. Neither has a contract on the Salary Cap for next year - so you are not losing their Salary as it is zero when you look at the cap for next year.
Therefore - their salaries are not a chunk of money to sign Goodwin or Adams. The only money you are saving is getting rid of a guy like Beasley saving a few million, but that money will be needed to sign another DE as we have at least 3 FA. Same goes for WR - we cut Cole to save money, but you have FA in McKenzie and Sanders already and core ST like Kumerow.
You are also losing so DT and back-up LBs, depth OL, CB, and back-up QB. You have several small holes that will need to be filled smartly as you also have Edmunds on his 5th year and a decision on Oliver and his 5th year option.
I would prefer to see the Bills sign a ton of mid level guys to fill holes and draft key positions like WR, DE, CB to get younger at those positions.
I wouldn't be upset with mid-tier players. There are many examples of these players outdoing the big names. In the pff article i linked above they project Haason Reddick at Contract Projection: Three years, $35 million ($11.67M per year, $18 million total guaranteed).
I also like Jamison Crowder at Contract Projection: One year, $4.5 million ($3.5 million total guaranteed)
You would have Rousseau, Basham, Espenesa, Reddick.
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https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-free-agent-rankings-free-agency
Guards-I like the idea of an FA signing because plugging in a known commodity on the Oline is smart in a win-now window.
19.Brandon Scherff: Contract Projection: Three years, $50 million ($16.67 million per year, $30 million total guaranteed)
Too much? Heres a good alternative;
26.Laken Tomlinson Contract Projection: Three years, $27 million ($9M per year, $16.5 million total guaranteed)
Draft? Zion Johnson, Derrion Kendrick or Tyler Smith.
If you can cover the guard in FA you can go WR/CB upgrade or even a DT like Davis in R1 and get them at a great value.
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Receiver is a great position to need in the draft. Some really good ones at the bottom of the 1st. I really like Calvin Austin III who is available at the bottom of the 3rd as a replacement for McKenzie.
I get that people hate the idea of losing players who come through for the team-McKenzie, Wallace, Bates. But they are extraordinarily productive mid-tier players. If they get a chance at a pay day you have to be happy for them and find their replacement in the draft. Now if they don't have a market and take a below market deal? Well thats cool, but i think a bit like last year they will be allowed to test the market first. If the Bills make a deep run in the playoffs they may find some takers this time around. The guys you have to keep are the absolute cornerstones. So if you can pay Diggs and Knox, then have some money left over why not make a move in FA?
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If Morse, Beasley and Klein are cut, their cap savings are 8.5, 6.1 and 5.2 mill. Lotuleiei would be another 4.1. Now ok these would then need to be replaced but if not this offseason it would surely happen next offseason. Would Morse and other vets be wanting to retire off a Superbowl? Perhaps Lotuleiei? Seems conceivable. If you're worried about comp picks I would say who will get that big contract to earn you a 3rd? Wallace, Bates, Phillips could likely all be picked up especially if they have good playoff runs. But those will probably garner 4th or 5th rounders at best.
I could totally see Buffalo being a player in FA.
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Is it correct to say that Josh only needs wins over Arizona, Philadelphia and Green Bay to have a win against every franchise (except the Bills)?
That would be a cool achievement. Then we can start counting his playoff scalps. So far.... Indianapolis, Baltimore and New England. Chiefs would be a nice addition to this group.
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Some of the over reactions on here are toxic after a loss. Some people just love to be miserable.
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19 minutes ago, Trogdor said:
He doesn't take responsibility though. It's always we didn't perform and not that he didn't get then ready or have a good plan. When has he ever admitted that they don't even try to adjust? They aren't transformed, we had one great year, and it shows now. The first playoff year they performed as well as a few drought years and then an awful one after. Now we're back to a middle of the road team. Sustained success would be transformed, and clearly they aren't there yet.
Oh you were expecting them to be in the playoffs the year that they cleared the cap and were expected to finish with the #1 overall pick? Nice to see you have reasonable expectations. I hope you are ashamed of yourself when they make the playoffs.
To say that they aren't transformed since McD came is insane. They have a franchise QB. Top 10 Offense and Defence. This year when they get to the playoffs it will be 4 of 5 years after a 17 year wait. Absolutely nothing transformative there.
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25 minutes ago, Mango said:
What if I told you that the Bills OL and DE were among the highest paid in the entire NFL despite the fact that the DL has gotten 6 top 100 picks since Beanes arrival?Then on top of all of that, the Bills are projected to only have $9 in cap space in 2022 (per spotrac).
Our cap situation and production on money spent is really bad at the moment and should be a major worry for every fan.
You're talking i suppose about individual production? Because the defence and Offense are both top 10 units. Every team in the NFL that has a franchise QB (and some that don't) are tight to the cap especially after the freeze. I can agree that players like Trent Murphy and Vernon Butler have been hugely overpaid. So yes, loyalty and over investment in players who have let them down has happened.
But again collectively the units are successful So perhaps the decision making deserves the benfit of the doubt?
Meanwhile for the first time in a long time the Bills are holding on to their successful draft picks. Extending them. Fazing out older players. This is good roster management. Its not flashy (do we want to be like the Rams?) but teams like the Ravens have been doing it like this for years.
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11 minutes ago, Trogdor said:
He is the head coach and it all falls on him. That's his staff under performing. That's his rotating defensive line getting pushed around and eat a big chunk of the salary cap. That's his team unprepared and undisciplined. That's how being the boss works, he isn't a coordinator anymore. Also, did you forget the Colts?
He will take responisibility. He always does for losses. But it cuts both ways. If you want to crucify him for every loss then does he deserve ALL the credit for every win? When the Bills win you don't see him talking himself up. He praises the players. That is good leadership.
The D-line is overpaid for its output but it IS an intergral part of an elite overall unit across the NFL. I mean they aren't bottom third of the league here. Did you forget that Star and Tremaine didn't play in that Colts game?
You're scapegoating and missing how this team has been transformed almost miraculously during the McD era. Because you're upset about one narrow loss.
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2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:
Do you really believe McDermott is the coach to win a SuperBowl? He burned a challenge on a QB sneak that no one from either sideline could see the player or the ball.
If it is 100% on the players, then is Beane culpable in this mess? Other teams made moves to get better at the trade deadline. Bills didn’t make a move with obvious issues at TE, DT, RB, and OG.
This team was a SuperBowl pick. If they don’t make the playoffs then is anyone held accountable? Or do you just give McD another year? How many years ? First I thought McDermott was Dungy with Tampa. Now I’m thinking he is at best Marty Schottenheimer.McD has led the Bills to 3 playoffs in 4 years, A team that hadn't made the playoffs for 17 years. Every year he produces a top 10 defence despite a lack of elite individuals. They along with the patriots have a superior pass defence that many teams would kill for. McD has now beaten every team in the AFC except the Browns. In the NFC every team except the Panthers, Eagles and Cardinals.
He and Beane have fixed a bad cap situation brought young players into the team and haven't sold their soul for a better chance at the superbowl like the Rams. Something that will likely hurt their roster for years to come. But he makes a bad challenge and you want to replace him without any suggested alternative plan?
We lost a tight game to an in-form division rival in atrocious weather conditions which favoured their ultra-conservative style. That is all.
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My trade would be Daryll Williams and Gabe Davis for Allen Robinson.
The Bears are going nowhere and aren't set up to use him properly. What they could use is an OT and young WR. Of course Nagy and Pace wouldn't bite because their asses are on the line.
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4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
We also rotated 9 against KC, including AJ and Basham, who sat v. Tenn. could playing them be part of the solution?
Do you listen to Joe Marino and locked on Bills? It's a good listen and he agrees with you about AJ and Boogie
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4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
thanks for the insight and analysis. appreciate it. I think we def can win the SB. I think the OL sack stats are good because of JA. Put another guy back there and it's totally different, IMO. Agree on the home and away games. Why are the toughest games ALL away this year.
Don't let the loss bother you. The Bills are a good team. I trust them to learn lessons. Meanwhile the sun is shining and I'm having a bacon sandwich.
I also think losses aren't crippling to this group, on the contrary it keeps them humble and hungry. Remember the Hail Murray
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12 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
there is no good loss, but I'm sick of hearing on this board that, "that was just a tough loss," or "we beat them 8 or 9 out of ten times." Really, we are 0-2 against them the last two years, and our issues (OL, Red Zone offense) keep appearing.
I agree about the excuses.
However the last 3 times we have played the Titans and Chiefs they have ALL been away games. Wouldn't it be nice to occasionally not have to travel to our biggest rivals?
As for the OL they have been excellent this season as a whole surrendering only 8 sacks. Red zone has seen regression from last year when we were the best. Predictable. They are hardly the worst and will get better.
Overall they deserved to lose this game and I'm ok with it. I still think they will win a Superbowl this season.
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So, what's a good loss?
1 They gave up 3 sacks. Our rookie playing only his 2nd start gave up a tough sack to a veteran player. You're spoiled if you think they were abysmal.
2 Agree that the DL had a bad day. Agree that one or both of Boogie AJ should have played. I think Jerry H is getting a bit of a free pass for past achievements.
3 secondary were excellent. You cross because the ball bounced off a helmet in a fluke or because of AJ Browns short crossers? That's not why they lost. Dont throw out the baby with the bathwater.
4 I didn't see the coaching as an issue last night.
5 Hard to blame Josh. His interception was caused by the pressure and Moss didn't react to help out. He scored 3TDs and threw for 350. Limp finish but it was one of those nights.
6 These Rbs are not special. They're merely made to look good in a great O. This isn't news to me.
7 That's an idiotic thing that fans say when they are buthurt at a loss. No basis in fact but you can read it on most fan forums Lame. Take the loss it's only a game. Titans played better. Good for them.
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Round 1 Mock Draft - Bills Complete (2.0 on Page 2)
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Seoulofstone
I like the round 1 pick. I like Muma but not for the Bills in Rd2.
I read a lot of stuff about Gordon but he had that terrible combine albeit working out with a sickness reportedly.
I feel like the 5 cbs I like could be gone before the Bills pick. So although it’s a need I would wait until the third for Cam Taylor-Britt whom Joe Marino loves. He had good numbers. Then with the plethora of late picks take a guy like Kalon Barnes with his 4.25 speed as a late developmental flier.