Seoulofstone
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1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:
Also known as dynamic never.
1000 yards passing/receiving in the same season. Definitely not a dynamic player.
11 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:No way on earth would I take on McCaffrey's contract, especially not if I'm giving up assets for him.
On closer inspection I think you will find he would have been incredibly cheap. Most of the guaranteed money would have stayed with Carolina(and they could have afforded it) but that was likely the sticking point in the deal. It would have taken a bounty for them to eat the enormous cap hit.
I wouldn’t be shocked if this deal is revived after this season. In fact that will be my bold prediction for next offseason. After Bills win the super bowl and Carolina finally has a reset after another bad year they will eat the CMC contract and Bills will move on from Singletary.
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I don’t know what to make of Joe Brady as an OC after his two seasons in Carolina. He had two QBs in Bridgewater and Darnold who had plenty of flaws. He relied too much on CMC making the Panthers one dimensional at times and he got a good first season from Robbie Andersen then a big regression. He was the guy who got the best out of Curtis Samuel-again one season. What was surprising was how predictable and unimaginative he could be, the opposite of his reputation in NO and LSU.
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My grade of B- is based entirely on personal preferences of players. I was hoping for traits players like Tariq Woolen or Calvin Austin. Elam is really the only one who I can imagine being a true difference-making starter.
However the thing about teams like the Bills and Chiefs, is that they use the players they select very well, so in that way it’s hard to fault selections.
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35 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Nobody is afraid of the Ravens and their pop gun offense...
They are killing themselves because of their insistence on running an 8th grade offense centered around running Lamar Jackson and basically having 0 weapons on the outside now that Brown is gone.
I could see them finishing 3rd in the division even if Jackson is healthy all year. There is a reason why he doesn't want to talk contract with Baltimore and I don't think they helped themselves in that regard with trading Brown, although when looked at I'm a vacuum, I would have traded Brown for a first too...but the problem doing that is you have nothing to replace him with.
I don't think they are going to be very good this year.
Ravens are built to play tough nosed football. Just because they are ground and pound rather than aerial doesn’t mean they won’t be a difficult match up. Especially in wintry conditions. Lots of injuries last year. My question is how they will look without Wink as DC. But Kyle Hamilton could be a big asset if he lives up to his hype. They also seem to develop and use players well, compared to say the Jets and Jags who constantly pick at the top but don’t get the production or development,All of the AFC North are interesting since we play them this year. The Browns beat us last time but who knows about when Watson will be available? The Steelers will be dismissed but whoever plays for Ben can’t be worse, and they beat us last year. It’s a competitive division.
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17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
He was their #1 WR. Played outside and inside. He projects more to the slot in the NFL.
I’m pretty sure Joe Marino said the same. Some people really liked him but I wasn’t impressed at the senior bowl. Let’s hope he does well.
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Love:
Dylan Parham
Calvin Austin
Expect:
Andrew Booth
Isaiah Spiller
Settle:
Breece Hall
Chad Muma
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Was not expecting a dog thread. Agree about Knox pinky looking concerning. Hopefully he never gets hit in the face by Josh.
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10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
My concern when I watch the tape on Penning is how many times I am like that would be a quick flag in the NFL.Good players from small schools succeed in the NFL. Maybe Penning will. I just think at lower levels if you are dominant your tape is obviously going to pop, so praise should be taken with a pinch of salt when moving to the NFL. Run game translates well but PP will be a huge jump for him. We saw it with Spencer Brown this past season. At 6 it’s risky.
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1 minute ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:
Yeah I still think you're either way wrong or confused. You said he was a RT, I showed you he played LT. One of Panthers biggest needs is LT. He also is ranked as one of the better LT.
Hence the reason I selected him. Not sure where you are getting your info but may want to take a 2nd look
Fair enough. We simply disagree. I see lots of draft people are crazy about his demeanor but for me he constantly gets mocked way too high.I get that he played LT at a level where his athleticism was unchallenged and he could dominate. If you think that translates to immediate starter in the NFL then I will say it’s possible but unlikely. At Carolina he would have no decent IOL to help him inside and wouldn’t be facing big 12 edges. He is a much safer projection to RT. And it’s still a big reach with a better player on the board.
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16 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:
You're SADLY mistaken my fine feathered friend....You must have him confused with another player I guess? That or you're just got it dead wrong.. but here ya go...
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/04/20/nfl-draft-final-big-board-top-262
17. Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa (rSR, 6'7", 325 pounds)
Penning plays to the echo of the whistle and has the tenacity and nasty demeanor that will endear him to his coaches. He has prototypical size and length, outstanding strength and athletic feet. While he has primarily started at left tackle (31 of 33 starts) and could succeed there at the next level, he may be even better on the right side
He is a mauler not a technician and played at a lower level at Iowa state. Projecting him as a starting LT in the NFL ahead of Charles Cross who is head and shoulders above everyone else in pass protection and played in the SEC is daft. At best it’s a Massive reach (even that quote has him at 17)-
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2 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:
The Panthers were originally wanting to take a swing picking QB Willis obviously with the current QB situation in place. Unfortunately Lions got there 1st. Although while a QB is greatly needed, Willis was the only one we were willing to take the chance with 1st round pick...
So Panthers will start up front and improve the OL for when the time comes we find that special someone in a QB he will be well protected....
With the 6th pick-Panthers select ---Trevor Penning OT Northern Iowa.
Falcons @GunnerBill are on the clock.
They have only one quality OL-Taylor Moton at RT. So you select a RT? It’s like me selecting an edge for the Bills in the 1st.-
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I think Ronaldo’s bust looks like a caricature. The artist was probably trying to bring his character to life and took too many liberties. As a beloved soccer player public pushback was strong. Bakers just looks absolutely nothing like him. Perhaps the sculptor did someone else by accident. Seems like a fairly colossal mistake. Nobody thought to check?
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Regarding this topic in the context of the draft, I think it’s fair to say the Bills don’t need a generational punter especially at a high draft slot, but it’s not unreasonable to hope for a league average punter who is otherwise anonymous and inexpensive. Some of those Haack shanks towards the end of the regular season were egregious.
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Interesting Joe Marino retweets on Araiza versus other options:
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23 minutes ago, glazeduck said:
As Mike Tyson famously said, "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" -- you're not wrong that our staff has shown the ability to find and/or develop talent from non-elite picks, but last year's draft is a great example of what can happen when you wait... you get left in the dust. At some point, need supersedes the ability to wait and have plans on plans on plans. If there's a position on this roster where that's the case, it's at CB...
That’s a fine decision making paradigm if you can promise me that the guy you’re trading up for is the truth. Gareon Conley went 3 picks before Tre. Remember Okudah who went to Detroit?People sell themselves on picks. Not saying I have the answer either. Happily defer to our coaches judgement.-
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Funny that people wring their hands over whom will be available. Tre White went 27 and Levi was a UDFA. Since it’s so glaring, I expect they have a contingency for a CB pick in each of the first 3 rounds.
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49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Betting on traits. Allen, Edmunds, Knox, Brown. It’s why it’s foolish to dismiss the idea that the Bills might like Tariq Woolen. -
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1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:
I do not understand you Obada comment here because that is not correct.
First off there have been a few IPP players that have graduated to active rosters - Obada is one of them. Obada tried out and was cut by 3 teams before getting a shot on the IPP. Essentially without the IPP his career was dead.
Obada came in through the original IPP where the player did not have to be cut - they just moved to the IPP spot at the end of training camp. Obada was cut to allow him a shot on the active roster - basically exactly like Wade was each year. That rule was changed several years ago - allowing all IPP to go through waivers and have a chance to switch teams to make an active roster or an active PS. If that fails they have the ability to resign to the IPP slot with the full understanding of what that means.
The goal is to give them an opportunity- not to give teams extra spots on their rosters. When they can play - they succeed- when they can’t - they make good money to enjoy a game.Again, I think you misunderstand what I’m driving at. I understand the goal of the IPP.
I don’t think i ever mentioned that they should get free spots on the roster. Or that other players weren’t getting chances in the IPP. Or that I expect them to become superstars. So I’m not sure why you even bring that up.
The reason I mention Obada is because he’s the only successful IPP guy who didn’t go to American college or get drafted, Unlike Mailata, Boeringer and Johnson. Even then, In all of those cases they had to leave the program to be eligible to play. I don’t deny that the IPP acts as a pathway just that once on it paradoxically they can’t play!
My point is that a program designed to give opportunity but that prevents you from being activated during the season seems like a contradiction.
I completely agree that Wade didn’t use the blockers well on his preseason splash plays. Once he was injured at the start of last season given his age and lack of starting experience I predicted he was done as I am sure did many people. At this stage it is the correct decision.
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30 minutes ago, Tuco said:
But this isn't entirely true. Yes, as the IPP player he was subject to the rules. But Wade had the choice every year to go out and find a team that wanted him. You don't just take a player from the off season 90 man roster and "assign" them to the practice squad. Not even an IPP player.
At the final 53 cut down, Wade had to be kept on the 53 or cut and subject to waivers just like every other player. He was cut and nobody claimed him in any of his years. That made him an unrestricted free agent every year, just like any other cut and unclaimed player. And he was free to sign with any team's 53 man roster, or any team's regular practice squad if any team wanted him as such - including Buffalo. And his 3rd and final option, as an IPP player, was to sign with Buffalo's practice squad as an exempted IPP player, knowing at that time he signed he wouldn't be able to be called up during the season.
Wade made the decision to sign to the PS as an IPP player rather than stay a free agent and hope some team would pick him up every time. I guessing he knew more about his situation than most of us.
And this last sentence isn't necessarily aimed at you. But a lot of people were always complaining that the Bills were holding Wade back by keeping him as an IPP player and not letting him go to another team. Wade had his chances to go to any other team every year. Yet he either chose to stay on as an IPP player because he liked it and had a steady paycheck, or, very likely, because no other team wanted him as a regular player.
Certainly he was free to become a free agent-no argument with that. I don’t mean this as a criticism of the Bills or Wade, but rather the IPP rules.
My annoyance is more that the IPP creates an in season glass ceiling. The argument that this gives the player a time to stick around and learn may make sense in theory but in practice has not worked, with the exception of Obada who had to be cut to waivers before he could be promoted to the panthers 53.
If your goal is to give opportunities to international players, creating a situation where they have to lose their job before they are eligible for an opportunity strikes me as odd.
If it’s just for show- what’s the point?-
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22 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:
Mostly the IPP gives a player growing up in a different culture a chance to learn American Football and in a few cases actual make it to a team.
Without the IPP - these guys are not only not getting a protected spot, but they are not getting an opportunity at all.
Wade without the IPP - never get a sniff of a football field. He even states after his 3 years he was still fundamentally learning how to handle the position. He made friends, learned about training and American Football needs, married his American wife, and got paid doing all of that.
I don’t know how effective you expect it to be, but if anyone effectively makes the transition it is highly effective and when multiple people get a contract from the IPP - I think the NFL considers that a win for both international promotion and spreading of the game.
That’s kind of my point though. I am sure he is thankful. I’m sure he learned things.
But due to the rules of the IPP no matter what he did he couldn’t be promoted in season. If you bake it right down, the fact that IPP players can’t be promoted from the practice squad without being cut-pigeon holes them as developmental projects. Preseason becomes their only hope.
Ultimately he becomes no more than a footnote, and we will never know. plenty of people may think he was unworthy and they maybe right.
Im my view either way, It’s a pity that he never got to play in an actual game.
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I wonder if he had his time over and had the choice between being a 3 year reserve with a protected spot and a guaranteed pay check or a chance at real snaps and being cut immediately-what would he have chosen?
Obada was different because he made the 53 and got play time. Mostly the IPP seems like a great idea for taking a promising athlete and letting them wither on the bench. About as effective in practice as the Rooney rule.
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3 hours ago, Floydboy12 said:
I trust these coaches developing secondary players.
Completely agree about coaching. So far outside of Tre they haven’t invested a premium pick on a DB in 5 years. I think they sent a clear message letting Levi go that they want to have an athlete. I know it’s unpopular but I think Tariq Woolen 6”4 and 4,26 40 is in play. As a trade up in the 2nd he has an incredibly high ceiling. If not I believe a late round traits DB like the guy from Fayateville St, Jones, or Kalon Barnes and his 4.2 speed are real possibilities.
As far as Bradbury goes predictively I think it won’t happen again because of his athletic profile. He was fantastic against the big receiver constantly shutting down Mike Evans and Julio Jones in their prime. But he’s just an average guy athletically. and against the quick guys gave up big games. Not a quality you want when facing a team with Waddle and Hill.
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(Pre Draft) Bills offered Panthers a trade for McCaffrey, Panthers declined
in The Stadium Wall
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Every player is an injury risk. CMC missed 2 seasons after 4 seasons of continuous health. His workload is insane-on the level of Derrick Henry, while also running routes and occasionally returns. Used properly by a creative OC I think it would be different.