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  1. 10 hours ago, Simon said:

     

    The only other info injury I saw about him was an ankle tweak that cost him a couple games back in his 2nd year. As for how the Panthers may have used him, I just don't get it. It simply doesn't reconcile with what we saw this year. He was absolutely dominant out there for nearly the entire season. Him and Dawkins both had a rough day on the same week (vs the Chargers I think?) but outside of that he was just stoning guys week after week after week. I'd be curious to see the Bills internal OLine grades cuz I don't think it would be difficult to make a case that he was the Bills best OLineman this season.

    When you've got a talent like Josh Allen who's going to be your franchise for the next decade, letting your best OLineman walk right now would be criminal, imo.

     

     I agree that he has been very solid. He will want to be paid though. I don't mean in the 8m per range either. He hasn't yet had a big time NFL contract and teams will notice him after all these prime time showings.  He won't be giving discounts which fans inexplicably always expect. Not sure that the Bills can get into a bidding war in FA. They also have reached the stage in their life cycle where they must develop players and accept that they can't keep them all and let them make money elsewhere. 

     

    9 hours ago, Doc said:

    Finding a young, cheap alternative is much easier said than done.  And Williams was 2nd team All-Pro at RT in 2017.  When he returned in 2019, the Panthers oddly played him everywhere but RT (and C).  The Bills signed him and he's proven to be an excellent RT for them, and that's his position.

     

     True. Nothing in life is guaranteed. I get that people always want the sure thing. This year, of the PFF best rookie OLine 4 of the 5 players were drafted in the third round or later. People said the same thing of Shaq and Phillips last year too. It's part of being successful that fans need to get used to. 

  2. 1 hour ago, Simon said:

     

    He missed one season with the knee injury. That was the only time in the last 4 years he hasn't played a full 16 games.

    You want to protect that franchise QB, I think locking in Daryl Williams is priority #1 this offseason.

     

     His only BIG Injury was the ACL, correct. But he was constantly dinged or playing injured and out of position for the Panthers and was very much a utility player.

     

     Based on this year alone and the importance of his position I agree with you, but again for me, this is a sell high situation. I place trust in Beane to find a young cheap alternative.

     

     I agree that Tackle should be a priority though, moreso if Williams leaves because, Nsekhe is also likely gone in FA so they will need a swing tackle too.

  3. It's a great year to play the comp picks game, with the cap freeze. People act like Milano , Williams and Feliciano are irreplaceable because they have been success stories. Milano is an oft injured 5th rnd LB, Williams is an oft injured 3rd rnd OL who has endured far more down than up seasons, and Feliciano I was pulled off a practice squad. 

     

    I mean good luck to them, they will all deservedly get paid somewhere, but to me it screams sell high and replace in the draft. When will people trust the staff's ability to draft and develop?

  4. 6 minutes ago, Process said:

    0% chance Allen plays the entire half. 

     

    You are right though, tua sucks and there is the chance he can't beat our backups. My point was you could have gotten 8.5 free points betting the dolphins early in the week. 

     

     I always find it odd when people say 0%. You are essentially saying it cannot happen. Why not say 1%? It's highly unlikely and still makes your point. 

  5. He was a really good player in 2015. He's been washed since the TJ Watt hit on his throwing shoulder.

     

    I've never liked his narcissism.

     

     I remember watching Panthers in the All or Nothing series. In the episode where he was meeting new owner Tepper, after successive seasons lost to injury. He was clowning and being overfamiliar, as if he owned the place. Tepper just passively looked at him with those merchant banker shark eyes. Next season he was gone.

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  6. 39 minutes ago, Doc said:

     

     

    I was listening to ESPN radio coming into work this morning and they were praising him for agreeing to stop dancing.  I said "he wants a big second contract."

     

    ^ Here's the important point. He's out of contract and has been noticeably ineffective since Brown left. Just look at Jets forum. They wanted him 5 weeks ago as a FA receiver, now they want nothing to do with him. 100% this is about perception regarding FA.

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  7. 52 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

     

     

    oh I know but I find weird things amusing like BBs tone and sarcasm.

     

    BB was basically telling Lou to STFU.

     

     

     

     

     

     Agreed it is funny. There's a difference between asking a question, and repeating it because you don't get the answer you want. I have no idea who that reporter is, but how could he be in any doubt that perhaps the greatest coach in football history is aware of the big picture and doesn't need tips?

     

     Cam is washed and has been since the TJ Watt hit. It was a brutal hit. Watching him in Carolina after his throw strength had disappeared. It's looks like he's throwing shotput now. Whatever your take on his accuracy across his career he had  a strong arm prior to that Watt hit.

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  8. They've also been missing Noah Fant and Phillip Lindsay. Under Fangio they have been better late season. Playing at altitude, and we've seen the Bills squeak through close games against bad offenses in NE and NYJ. This game is not a gimme.

    14 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

    Holy cow.  Never seen another team so obsessed with a Quarterback not in their division.  Close to 13 pages on Josh Allen.  

     

     It is odd. But then the Broncos have been unable to solve their QB through the draft since Elway. As they say in that thread, Allen played college locally and meets the traits esteemed by Elway. So it sort of makes sense that they question why Elway didn't make a run at him (only now in hindsight). They would have scoffed at passing on Bradley Chubb for Josh Allen back at draft time.

  9. 24 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

    the broncos went into that game ranked 32 in offensive DVOA. its a very bad offense.

     

    22 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

    Don;t use one data point, at least use a trend.  You used good context for the one data point but it still does not tell the tale of the tape.  They are average at best and their record shows them to be below average overall.

     

     You're both right. And yet that very bad offense scored 32 points travelling to the east coast. They are a team that in recent years has finished the season well. My point is any given Sunday. Do they scare me? No. Do they have zero weapons and a QB who we know is Incapable. Absolutely not.

     

      Lock was superb at the end of last season. You can say he played a bunch of teams who were lame ducks, you can say he's been terrible this year, that he has turned over the ball all season. All true. But he threw some beauties last year against the Bills and he can again.

     

     I guess the other thing that bothers me here is that this was precisely the narrative surrounding Josh Allen. People wanting to put him in a bracket and say he can't be anything else ignoring his flashes. It's why I'm rooting for guys like Herbert and Lock who were all pegged pre draft by so called experts.

     

     All that said, I expect a Bills win.

  10. 15 minutes ago, y2zipper said:

     

      Denver's offense is terrible.

     

     

     

     

     

     I disagree with this  They scored 32 last week. Lots of playmakers. Capable running game Drew Lock can play well on a good day. I think they struggle playing from behind because they lack veteran leadership on offense. 

     

     Last week Carolina as they have all season, gave up the deep pass. They won't get that with the Bills. Broncos could totally win, but the Bills look much steadier right now.

  11. 1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

     

    Have you ever heard anyone bring something up like this with Allen?  No. Why? Because his intangibles are elite level off the charts. 

     

    When these things are being brought up by ex-players who know how a QB SHOULD be acting on and off the field, it is a problem.

     

     If you look close enough anyone's behaviour can be critiqued. If your point is to bathe in the reflected glory of the comparible culture of the two teams then yes I expect Buffalo is much better than Arizona under Kingsbury- see Spain, Quinton, for keeping things quiet  But human beings generally are flawed. I ask myself what is the motive behind this article. I am however pleased that Josh is likeable.

     

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  12. 21 hours ago, bmur66 said:

    I don’t get it. If he can’t play then what is the whole point?

     

     Yes it's frustrating that he has no route to playing. The only IPP player whom I know of that has made an active roster is Efe Obada at the Panthers (2 sacks in the past 2 weeks). He spent year 1 on the exemption but they took the plunge year two and gave him a spot on the practice squad. 

     I'm a Wade fan but I think they made the right decision on him. Surely next year is his make or break. Tough to learn with the restrictions he faces. In his favor, the Bills rbs have not locked down starting spots. He has speed which the others don't. Such a pity he's ineligible for call up right now.

  13. 8 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

    I'd like to add in another tidbit of positivity I was thinking about this morning:

    The playoff seeding this year outside of #1 doesn't matter nearly as much as previous years.

     

    Only the #1 seed gets a bye in each division.

    If Buffalo wins the division and gets a "home" game, fans will likely not be in the stands. 

    So ... division winner vs Wild Card means a whole lot less. We just need to make the playoffs... and with 7 teams making it this year, we're still in a great spot.

     

      True. And it means the Bills won't ease off heading into the playoffs. I want to see them sweep the division not give away an easy win playing their reserves.

  14. Interesting similarities between Tak and Vic Beasley and Shaq Lawson. Guys selected perhaps too high who couldn't live up to franchise hopes. I remember Bills fans being very down on Lawson when McD showed up. He improved to the point that he won a big contract in FA and fans were sorry to see him go. They did the same with Jordan Phillips. I like their chances with reclamation project players.

  15. 13 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

    Yes a large part of their offense is him running around and causing chaos. Play disciplined and get hands up, make him make many plays with his arm from the pocket and force patience.

     

    It's funny that all teams used to say that of Josh. When Kyler was scrambled by the Carolina pass rush he made bad throw decisions. That's definitely something he needs to work on. He can make good throws too though and he has the weapons in a good receiving core.

     I'm not comfortable with trying to put Kyler in a "this is what he is box". He's a good runner but like Josh it doesn't mean that he can't be a good passer too with flashes of brillaince and in time passing may become a strength.

     As a No1 pick he's not a one trick pony while at the same time as a young guy he will make mistakes.

  16. 27 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

    Besides the Seahawks, who we shellacked yesterday, which ones would you classify as "good wins" ?

     

     I do think their season opener was impressive. Their wins against weaker teams have been comfortable and high scoring and Murray has looked fluent in those. They are dangerous but inconsistent. A lot like the Chargers whom we have after the bye. They have been losing close games but offensively they can be dangerous. Write off those teams at your peril. See Bengals-Titans. That said living in Carolina I saw them beat the Cardinals and Murray had a bad day which was glossed over.

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