Seoulofstone
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Sims is right. If the weather is bad run success is especially vital and the Bills have looked shaky. The other key will be turnovers. I hope the Bills look after the ball. The pats O is struggling though. Cams shoulder being shot makes them one dimensional. His problem is that in trying to fix that narrative he has to throw...
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9 hours ago, simpleman said:
I get so tired of hearing Lawson was not an "elite" pass rusher. So what. He was very good at setting the edge. How many times have we seen the opposing offense and qbs take it around the edge for first downs and big gains this year now that he is gone. You need someone good at setting the edge, as well as someone good at rushing the passer.
Fine but as an edge setter Lawson doesn't deserve the large contract that Miami gave him. Addison consistently gets around 10 sacks a year AND has been excellent at setting the edge. It's a pity they don't use him more than Hughes and Murphy who are liabilities.
The downturn in defense isn't because of swapping Addison for Lawson which at worst is a wash, but because lots of other highly paid guys aren't doing their jobs.
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Star was overpaid but he did make run stops at critical moments. Run D wasn't a strength last year but it wasn't a weakness either. A brief glance at the Panthers historically bad run D last year should tell you why Butler was a bad choice to replace star.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
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It's unfortunate for them but Lewis and Dodson injuries shouldn't be pivotal. They are promising fringe players. Ford is a starting guard but he's not lived up to his dominant billing from the draft. I think Spain is fine. I hope that they can accept that the Winters signing hasn't worked and relegate him to depth.
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50 minutes ago, H2o said:
Hindsight is 20/20, but I would rather have Phillips and Lawson over Jefferson, Butler, and Addison.
Addison is on schedule for 8-10 sacks which few here thought he would reach. That's fine IMO. Butler and Jefferson have obviously been expensive duds. Phillips got $30 mill over 4 years but his cap hit next year is $12, so it would have been tough. Lawson is solid (better than Murphy and Hughes) but not an elite rusher.
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In successive weeks Derrick Henry and Tyreek Hill have been non-factors. Unfortunately, this has exposed the limitations of other areas of the defense. I think if I could have chosen someone to nullify it would have been Kelce but they definitely took away splash passing plays.
The two out of bounds hits and the sloppy Diggs penalty were infuriating because those guys (White,Poyer,Diggs) are supposedly leaders (captains?) on O and D.
It is worth pointing out that the Buffalo DL coach Washington (Carolina's DC last year before demotion due to ineptitude) and Vernon Butler were key players one of the worst Run defenses in NFL history down here last year. Butler is not a run stopper and his sack total last year was a fortuitous outlier.
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It's fair to say they have gone to that well too many times, but then that is the HCs prerogative. Klein and Butler were a waste of money. Addison is the best Bills DE but the other DEs have all been bad. Star gets poo because he was overpaid Norman's personality and play at WASH are disliked but he's fine as CB2. Williams has been a success story at RT. It's not unilateral failure IMO.
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I'm glad they lost. They deserved it, and it should wake them up.
The late Roberts fumble and the TD where Tannehill seemed to cross the scrimmage were symptomatic of how everything that could go wrong went wrong. Hopefully the players are embarrassed and react the right way.
The good news is the Bills won TOP, contained Henry and had impressive long drives despite horrible starting position. You can't constantly concede turnovers and penalties against the Titans and expect a 3 score comeback. The game script suited them perfectly. It's a bummer but the Titans are solid and will beat other good teams.
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I would. And I get the concern- I really do
Haushcka hit in the low 70s percentage rate on FGs last year and they wouldn't attempt long kicks.
Gostkowski was a multiple SB winning PK who missed 3 FGs and an extra point in week 1 for the Titans. Last week he hit 5 including 3 from over 50.
Bass missed 2 (arguably) in his first game and an extra point on a bad hold this week. Not close to Roberto Agiayo bad. YoungHoe Koo is having a great season in ATL after a disasterous start at LAC.
We need a bigger sample size. I hope that he gets a few longer shots soon though because he needs to gain confidence for himself and fans. No question.
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4 minutes ago, KzooMike said:
Really, that's the trouble? We are a Super Bowl contender with a Rookie kicker who hasn't proven he can make it in the NFL yet and his body of work thus far gives us every reason to be concerned. I hate rookie kickers in the NFL. What is the point? At least look at players that have shown they can be successful in the league first and also don't further marry yourself to a freaking kicker by using a draft pick on him. I REALLY hope he turns it around, Hauschka wasn't perfect by any stretch but he proved himself in the league and if it wasn't for his performance in the playoff game against Houston we would have never been able to B word about two players colliding with Watson at 20 MPH and him not moving an inch.
In real terms so far Bass hasn't affected Buffalo's superbowl chances. Does he inspire confidence? Not particularly. Yet. But let's not pretend as though metronomic kickers were readily available. Op mentions Gonzalez who had a really bad year 3 years ago I think when he was at Tampa. Cost them lots of close games. The only exception is Zuerlein who has been really good, but he is getting older and he chose Dallas (more fool him).
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The trouble with people nowadays is that they always look for the sure thing. The closest you can get to a sure thing for a kicker is Justin Tucker and he's a unicorn. What makes you think Haushcka or anyone else would definitely have made it?
The most successful kicker last year (in point terms) was Butker. Just two weeks ago he kicked two vital 58ish yarders. Last week he sucked-i know because he cost me in fantasy. It happens.
Daniel Carlson was appalling when he came into the league. He was cut by a couple of teams but yesterday he made 2 excellent 50+ long distance shots against the Bills.
The bottom line is Bass hasn't cost us a game yet. I can't get on board with the Bass angst.
Thank goodness McD has proven with Josh that he isn't as reactionary in his judgement of players, and cuts out the outside noise.
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I think you need to look at OT. Nsekhe and Williams out of contract. Tight to the cap.
CB would be great but I think the good ones will go early and mid 1st and McD can make it work with an average CB2.
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9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
They lost 6 of 9 by less than a TD. That's "losing comfortably"?
Convinced myself---that's a good one! Yeah, I' going all alone way out on a limb here! The jump they have made is bigger than the jump the Browns made last off-season, mainly because it was a much shorter leap for the reasons that are straightforward but still confuse you.
You are very literal aren't you? Ever heard the phrase garbage time? You are projecting a jump. So what that means is it hasn't happened yet I will own it if I'm wrong. I doubt you will.
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41 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
I'll make it simpler, if possible: the hype surrounding the Browns last year was just that and not based in any reality. The Bucs are a far better team before Brady showed up--their QB clearly held them back. Now they have Brady. This changes their odds immensely---your very weird invocation of the "past 10 years" is meaningless, obviously.
Here's a very simple question....do you agree with most that TB will make the playoffs this year? If not why not?
I think they may because of the extra spot. Their variance is quite high. They could crater. But no chance as division winners. If you watch week 1 that will tell you all you need to know about how over hyped they are.
You say it was not based in reality yet you admit that you were caught up in the Browns hype and were wrong. You are welcome to disagree and It doesn't upset me. I accept that most people disagree because they think Brady is more than a system QB. That's what we're about to learn.
But how Is it a weird invocation to say that the Browns and Bucs have both had sustained failure yet both became projected to be serious contenders during an offseason due to personnel moves?
You may not like it but it's simple fact. The fact that you think that being an offensive juggernaut while losing comfortably is some kind of achievement simply tells me that you read too much into stats.
I appreciate that you have convinced yourself that the jump they have to make isn't as challenging as the Browns and other factors work in the favour. I also appreciate that you clearly think Brady is going to be a difference maker. Let's watch the games and find out
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42 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:
As a bills fan I'm going to say yes to this one.
This is an interesting one to me. You refer of course to McD and Beane and what we're beginning to see bear fruit at Buffalo.
So where I will agree with you is that stability is what every franchise should want. My question is would McB have been here if they hadn't achieved success on the field? 2 visits to playoffs in 3 years is what has given them legitimacy while they dismantled things. Even then I've seen people criticise them on these boards and pan them as incompetent for specific moves and shortcomings.
Having stability in a perennial loser should on the other hand be a red flag. Arians got his legitimacy from previous jobs that's why he was given more time.
The Interesting thing will be if they entirely remake their O to fit Brady. For me you don't just plug in Brady to this team without completely changing the way they play. That's the opposite of continuity
14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:They’ve gone 7-9 two years in a row.
You're right. I stand corrected.
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33 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
Sustained success of ATL? They’ve been a disappointing team for 2 years in a row now.
There’s no rule that you have to make the playoffs a few years first before going straight to the SB....
They had a horrific start then finished with a long winning streak that saved Quinn's job. 2017 they beat the Rams before falling narrowly to the SB winners. A year prior to that they were leading by 20 in the SB. (Thanks Scott law for the fact check). They have been contenders in recent years.
It's true that TB can make the playoffs. But NO and ATL shouldn't be disrespected. CAR are more than capable of outscoring TB too. Just my opinion.
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10 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:
Seoul, I’m not going to beat on you. You’re saying the Bucs haven’t made the playoffs in 10 years. You’re absolutely right. The Bills didn’t make the playoffs in 17 years. Did that keep them in 17 from making it, and again in 19, and most likely again in 20? The Bucs increased their defense significantly last year in the second half of the year when Bowles defense started to take hold. Their front 7 was good. Their back end sucked in the beginning, but came on i the last half of the year. Granted I keep up as I live here now, even though raised on South Park Ave. Their offense was lacking only one thing. A rushing game. They just added Fournette. People hate Brady, but he had no one around him. He has basically the best weapons in the NFL Now between the WR’s, TE’s, and a RB. The defense added another round of secondary with our son Winfield of a great CB for us.
Im not saying SB, but enough on the Tampa hating just because Brady beat us like a girl you asked out in high school five times and she kept saying no. No doubt he can be a cry baby. That doesn’t mean they are not going to have a good team. You’ll se so no worries arguing about it.
There is one thing for sure. The Bills will contend with the Ravens, Chiefs, Steelers, and Titans in the playoffs. After that who knows.
Thanks MGK. I live in Carolina so I watch a lot of NFC south. I agree with you that these runs come to an end and it doesn't surprise me at all that Tampa fans feel optimistic- so they should
I feel like my point here was misrepresented.
Previous TB high scoring isn't a given to continue because Brady isn't a pure deep ball guy. If there's one thing we know it's that his bread and butter is that he's dink and dunk. Agree that Fournette will help their run game and balance. Ideal if they're ahead, a non factor if behind. But even if successful that in itself should lead to less points as they slow the game down. Their run D impressed me Via finally came good it will be interesting to see if he can sustain which he hasn't yet, but I don't see Shaq Barrett coming close to what he did last year. Their secondary is bad and their schedule will be tougher this year with higher expectations. I don't hate TB but I think it's too easy to join the dots and forget about the great rosters and sustained success of NO and ATL. Even CAR have dangerous individuals.
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1 hour ago, iinii said:
And New England has had their foot on a lot of necks for a while now.
That was really a reference to the dominance Brady held over the AFCE. It's not a given that he will be dominant in a new division. Like I said to Mr Weo wasn't going for apples to apples. Yes Arians is better than Kitchens but it's a low bar. Arians wasn't able to fix Winston. Don't agree about Brady. He represents the opposite of the deep ball game that Tampa have run. Brady will find himself under pressure to put points on the board without a great D to keep the other team in check. The Godwin connection will be great but he will be behind a shaky line and every game will be a dogfight in the NFC South. If things start going south it will be fun watching Brady scowl on the sidelines.
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20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
You did this while ignoring everything else about each team prior to the respective seasons. So your comparison is doomed no matter what. It doesn't matter what the Bucs did the previous 10 years. "Most prolific teams in the league"? Right...
And I'm not picking them to go to the SB, let alone win it (most see them "reach the playoffs", obviously), so you are veering even further off-point as you strain to make a point.
There is no meaningful comparison between the Browns entering 2019 and the Bucs entering 2020. Quit while you're behind.
I love the way you highlight me agreeing that TB are perennial high scorers (which I never contested) to suggest that they have nothing in common.im not comparing QB, HC, coaching or stats. I'm comparing the lazy take on the Browns last year to what were seeing this year with TB.So let me put it in bold too.
They both haven't made the playoffs in over 10 years and are popular picks to not only end that but progress to the SB going into this season.
That and my prediction of how this will end is what I'm saying they have in common. I'm sorry that I have to spell it out to you.
I will be sure to tag you to remind you when TB crash and burn.
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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:
Only if you knew nothing about the Bucs last season would you imagine some "comparison" to the Freddie Kitchens Browns of last season.
Since you couldn't be bothered to look it up, I have volunteered to help you:
Tampa's offense scored 458 points (for comparison, the Bills scored 314 and NE 420)--3rd in the NFL last year. That's the 7th most of any team not making the playoffs in the past 28 years----with Jameis Winston at the helm.
Tampa had 30 ints and 11 lost fumbles last year. Yet they still scored more points than they allowed all season.. You think Brady will throw 30 ints?
6 of their 9 losses were of 7 points or less. Maybe the turnovers were a factor, you think?
Only 6 of their 16 games this season are against teams who had winning records last year.
Bruce Arians isn't Freddie Kitchen's
Lazy take----no points for you.
To be honest I never once said I was comparing Arians to Kitchens or Winston to Brady. That was entirely you. What I am comparing is two teams that both haven't been to the playoffs in over ten years both making flashy pickups and being predicted to do great things as a consequence. What they have In common is an exceedingly long period of terrible underachievement. That was what I was alluding to
It's great that you're a Brady fanboy and that you think he's so great that they will not only reach the playoffs but make the big game. I can see how years of watching him obliterate an abysmal AFCE particularly the Bills would make you that much in awe of him but he may find that especially the Falcons and Saints won't just roll over for him.
Your stats are correct but it hasn't helped Tampa in the past. You're dead right that Brady won't throw as many interceptions but do you honestly think that he's going to be throwing bombs downfield like Winston? He won't be playing with a lead against terrible offenses. He will be playing from behind against some of the most prolific teams in the league. Assuming that it will be business as usual for Brady is about as smart as assuming that they will make the Superbowl.
Anyway agree to disagree and time will tell.
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6 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:
Hmmm, gonna disagree with the comparison. At a high level TB is a stable org with BA, Brady is walking into an offense that Winston was able to run well. Solid defense that is also stable and established - versus - Freddie Kitchens, a young qb, a defense that supposed to be good but has trouble staying healthy?
Is stability a useful quality when your organisation has underachieved for years? You're right that at that level they are nothing like the Browns but I really wasn't comparing organizational competency.
More the fact that they are serial disappointments who have made notable signings to add to some blue chip players already there. Just like the Browns last year they are being over hyped Their D is NOT solid. They had a guy who had a sensational once in a lifetime sack number. They were a top team against the run. But their pass D was among the worst. Bad enough to be nowhere near the playoffs despite record offensive output
Now people are saying superbowl and that's a hell of an assumption.
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4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Tampa Bay is this year’s Browns?lol
Really? You can't see the comparison? A team that hasn't made the playoffs in over ten years makes a couple of splash signings and becomes media darlings before ending up with a .500 record.
Perhaps you think that Brady is unbeatable simply because he's had his foot on the Bills neck for so long.
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10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
If you read the rest of my post...And he picks Brady and the Bucs to go to the Super Bowl.
The Tampa hype is funny. This year's Browns. This franchise hasn't made the playoffs since 2007. Atlanta and New Orleans are strong. Even the bad team has a guy who got 1000 rush 1000 receiving on their team. People have them winning the Superbowl! Ha.
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2 minutes ago, Whkfc said:
Dont forget Tyrod.
Yeah, I mean in terms of talent exchange, I think the Bills are firmly ahead with Jordan Poyer.
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When McDermott talks about games, does he sound passive?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Such an odd criticism. Passive? So you want him to be...animated? You want him to make bold statements? Sorry, I don't get it.