The Red King

Saying something is plausible isn't the same as saying it happened. Good lord... ?

When did I judge the victim? Where? Saying she might have framed him being plausible? Never said it was likely. There are a number of plausible explanations and I refuse to join a lynch mob without evidence, unlike others it seems. I hate the whole "If yer not for us, you're 'gainst us!" mentality. There is not enough (any) evidence to conclude McCoy was responsible. Likewise...there is not enough (any) evidence yet to clear him, either!

My gut feeling, truth be told, is that she got into some kind of altercation not related to Shady. Whether a basic break-in, or she brought home a guy and somehow angered him. She then got the crap beaten out of her. While battered, she realized she could really screw McCoy over if she claimed it was McCoy setting up the robbery and lied about the attacker demanding specific items she knew he wanted. This way, she'd not only stick it to him, but it would generate a ton of free publicity and sympathy for the public. IIRC, it was mentioned earlier in the thread that she changed her Twitter to 'followers only' and has picked up a ton of new ones. I think she took something unrelated to Shady and manipulated it to her advantage. ...note, that's my opinion. I am not certain...there isn't enough (any) evidence, and as far as I'm concerned it is still quite possible he was indeed responsible. So, while I have a hunch, I will not pass judgement in any direction until the facts are in.

This. All the this. I'm not saying McCoy is innocent. I'm saying there are too many plausible scenarios here to be able to declare with certainty whether or not McCoy was responsible. Most of us are simply waiting until there is hard evidence before deciding.

So...the attorney of a woman being evicted by McCoy painted McCoy as a bad guy? No big shock there. That's part of their job. When you cherry pick things and put a spin on as harsh as a washing machine you can make a saint look like Satan, and lawyers are the best at that.

Whelp, then let's just change all instances of "self-inflicted" to "arranged to have do her herself". Doesn't change the plausibility of it in the least. Now you discuss the point rather then quibble over wordplay. Entirely plausible, and just like the victim, supported with absolutely no hard facts. Hell, you just proved my point for me. Thanks!

My current financial situation is tight. If someone offered me $5000 cash to beat the crap out of me, I'd likely consider it. Self-inflicted doesn't mean she did them to herself directly. She could have easily staged it, and had someone else beat her so she could frame McCoy. Am I saying this is what happend? No. But it's plausible, and that's the point. We need some actual evidence.

Nobody is claiming anything. But are you going to tell me that's not a possibility? With absolutely no hard evidence against McCoy, you're already declaring him guilty, and anybody who disagrees wanting actual evidence before deciding one way or the other are somehow foolish?

...you're the only one jumping to conclusions, without evidence even. Many of us aren't ready to pass judgement either way without hard evidence, as it is just as possible he is being framed as he is guilty.

There is also angering someone completely unrelated, getting the crap beaten out of you, then lying about some details so you can try pinning it on McCoy, rather then having to explain why you really got beaten and by who.

Basically, do we actually have proof the attacked demaned those items...or is that all on her word? There is not enough evidence to clear or hang McCoy yet.

But do we have anything other then the victim's word that the attacked demanded those things? Any actual audio of him demanding them. She could be making this up. She knew he wanted those items.

Again, the victim's story is plausible. At the same time, it's equally plausible that this was all setup, or that she was legitimately attacked, but the attack wasn't related to Shady...and she lied to pin it on him. Any of those three scenarios are equally plausible right now. We only have her word that the attacker demanded those specific items. There is no concrete evidence currently. None.

Guilty until proven innocent, is it? Yes, he asked for specific items... ...or did he? There is no proof the attacker asked for those items, just her word he did. And this is why hard evidence trumps speculation in a court of law. Sadly, posts like this show it's far easier to sway the court of public opinion.

Again, no hard evidence. I'm not saying he didn't do it. I'm saying there is not enough hard evidence to say he did or didn't. The known facts as we have them make the accuser's story plausible. At the same time, it's equally plausible that she set this up...or was attacked for something completely unrelated, and seized the opportunity to frame McCoy. I refuse to come to any definate conclusion withoout some hard evidence.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but at this point I think you're being actively trolled. They're seeing how far they can wind you up, and you're taking the bait.

If he did this, McCoy is a monster that deserves what he gets. That being said, this looks a lot like a setup. Too many inconsistancies, too many things don't make sense.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, which is why I never state mine as fact, like you did. You could be right, but we don't have crystal balls. It wasn't your opinions that ground me down, just the fact you presented them as absolutes.

Does that even matter if the targets aren't thrown at in the first place?

Alright, that makes a lot more sense.

Ugh. What's next? 15 yards for stepping in already existing footprints in the snow?

The signpost ahead..."Thread merge incoming"...

Hmm, from 0-16 to playoffs in one year, stated as absolute, this is 100% going to happen, fact instead of "I believe...". So...should your pred...wait, this isn't a prediction...should your guarantee fail to come true, will you still be here, apologizing for making such an outlandish claim? Browns will make the playoffs, Bills will be absolute worst in the league in both turnovers and points allowed. I have your guarantee correct, don't I? ...or, are you psychic and already saw this outcome? In which case, what are this weekend's winning lottery numbers? ...how long until training camp again? Posts like this, people posting their opinion as if it were fact is really wearing me down.