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20 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:
Wrong. The Browns have to pay him if they're retaining his rights.
No, they don't. He is choosing not to coach, he wasn't fired. Now next year, if he decides to come back as an active coach, they would have to pay him or release him. But he can't choose not to coach and still get paid.
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Monken now needs a DC in Cleveland.
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8 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:
The Browns are *****in' idiots. You pass over the guy, yet you expect him to stay and work for the guy for which he was passed over? And while you let other assistants out of their contracts, you hang on to Schwartz's? Dick move by the Browns.
He will still get paid, as the Browns are retaining his rights and not releasing him from his contract, like they did for every other assistant coach on the staff except for Schwartz.
If he doesn't coach, he doesn't get paid. If he chooses next year to coach, then he would be entitled to his contract.
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1 hour ago, Chicharito said:
Get Schwartz and make him assistant HC. Easy choice.
That's not a promotion in the sense of getting him out of his contract. But I doubt they try to force him to stay.
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2 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:
I'd rather have Daboll than Brady. But I'm not sure.
Josh needs to have his ass kicked, and the Bills need someone tough but close to our system for D. Something 4-3 based...Tampa type scheme but more aggressive.
Jim Schwartz as DC sticks out...my guess is he will go with Stefanski though. They are saying he may even get Browns HC gig.
if Beane is staying....we need someone who can work with him. Is this Daboll?
The Browns were also telling HC candidates that they would like to keep Schwartz as DC as well, if he doesn't get the HC gig.
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He melted in college if you got consistent pressure. All the ability in the world, but he doesn't have the mental toughness.
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Just now, Kirby Jackson said:
Let’s do this 3 ways. Pick the guy you want, the guy that you think, the guy that you don’t want.
Want: Curt Cignetti
Think: Klint Kubiak (would be happy)
Don’t want: Mike McCarthy
Cignetti already said he's not leaving college ball. Obviously a LOT of money may change that, but he seems to be a college lifer.
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8 minutes ago, Jalan81 said:
He was face guarding too, he waved his hand back n forth with his back to the ball. A clear and obvious case of interference.
Face guarding on its own isn't a penalty.
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1 minute ago, Einstein said:
Holding doesn’t require the ball to be anyway. The ball could be chucked into orbit and it’s still called.
If the ball is in the air, it's interference, not holding. If the pass in uncatchable, then interference is subjective.
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51 minutes ago, Einstein said:
In the NFL, pass interference can technically be called on an "uncatchable" pass, as the rule book doesn't strictly define "catchable," making it a subjective judgment call for officials; however, officials often don't call PI if the ball is clearly uncatchable by either player.
The pass on the right landed well out of bounds.
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51 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
I gotta find the play bigger than twitter size haha but it looked pretty catchable to me
It almost hit the outside line of the white stripe surrounding the endzone.
Just now, SoCal Deek said:Now what? There was NO signal for it being uncatchable. Where do people come up with this stuff? It was simply a missed, or overlooked, penalty.
The pass landed well out of bounds. I watched it live, I honestly have no idea if they signaled uncatchable or not. But it was several yards outside the right of the end zone.
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50 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
That doesn’t negate the interference or even illegal contact. They often call that when the ball is thrown to the opposite side of the field.
It does negate interference. You can't interfere with an uncatchable ball, though what is uncatchable is also essentially a judgement call.
Like holding, illegal contact could be called on every single play. I could have seen them call it on that.
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Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:
This one?
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The ball landed well out of bounds on this play.
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Benjamin Allbright posted another angle that shows its much less clear. The ball isn't secure before he hits the ground. Since it was ruled an INT on the field, not enough to overturn. Same as if it had been ruled a catch.
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1 hour ago, Jamone said:
Absolute disgust. 2 things. Bills shouldn’t have even been in position. Brandon cooks hand was down. No overtime. Brandon cooks catch in overtime was tie goes to the runner. Has been called 27 times this year including a bills games. Absolute horse *****. Won’t be watching the Super Bowl
The INT was definitely debatable, with me agreeing it should have been ruled a Cooks catch. But he earlier "catch" along the sideline wasn't close and was correctly ruled incomplete. His entire hand was out of bounds.
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3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:
He still was afforded one extra game.
Get in in the same number as games, sure no problem...
He also did in 200 less pass rush snaps than Watt, and around 100 less than Strahan even in 1 more game.
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Garrett was also double teamed on over 50% of passing downs.
I also have seen 434 passing downs to get the record, not 540.
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10 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:
Because it’s Cleveland 🤷♂️😂
It's weird. Berry's drafts have been very mixed. A couple that weren't great. This past year was amazing. Only"clear" miss was Gabriel. Sanders wasn't good either, but he at least attempted to pass down field with a very sketchy OL and bottom barrel WRs.
Schwesinger will be the DROTY, Graham was excellent, Judkins looked good, Fannin was top tier as a receiving TE. Dylan Sampson was good mostly as a receiving back.
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7 minutes ago, BVBILLS said:
The trade for Watson should cost the GM his job too
That was 100% Haslam.
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13 minutes ago, PonyBoy said:
Dang it!
Forgot this is game 17.
Garrett is great, but not in a 16 game season or less.
Like the 2000 yard RB seasons, WR, etc....
Garrett had something like 100 less pass rush attempts than Watt or Strahan, even in the 17 games season.
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2 hours ago, Walking Tall said:
I think he’ll be selling insurance in 4 years.
Why does NCAA Football create so many insurance salesmen?
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7 hours ago, FireChans said:
It only took until week 16
And the Browns' 5th string tackles.
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5 minutes ago, finn said:
Did I say it was the first time this has happened? The same thing happened to Marino, too.
You said "the best player in league history." Maybe you meant currently.
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1 minute ago, finn said:
A 7-10 team with the best player in league history at quarterback. We're living the results of that combination.
Apparently Tom Brady doesn't exist on this planet anymore.
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Jim Schwartz quits the Browns; plans to sit out the season
in The Stadium Wall
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He has to fulfill the contract to get paid. He is choosing to sit out. If he decides to return to work, then yes, they would have to pay him. Right now it is Schwartz that isn't holding up his end of the contract. He doesn't get paid if it is his decision to sit out.