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  1. 6 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

    He was at 65 when he crashed, more likely going 100 and slammed on the brakes. Or do you think he was casually driving 65 and then flipped one of the best handling sports cars a dozen times? If so I have a bridge to sell you.

    You are starting from a point where it's possible or likely that he said that. That's the Bigfoot example. You believe Bigfoot exists or do you start from the point of "haha yeah right there is no Bigfoot" prove me wrong?


    Everything about your points is speculation.  You assume everything about what Garrett did to be on the far wrong side. Everyone else it pointing out that maybe it's not that, or not quite that bad, and you say "prove me wrong" yet have no evidence of what you're saying either.

  2. 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

    No he's a garbage person because he destroyed the name of Mason Rudolph by saying he said something racist to him and that's why he tried to hit him with a helmet. There are people that still think he did. This just adds to the laundry list of why this guy is garbage. He almost killed that girl and he takes zero responsibility for it.


    There is no way to know for sure what was said with the helmet thing and Rudolph.  To be clear, nothing Rudolph would have said would make it ok to swing the helmet, but there is no way to say for sure what happened.  There is also pictures of Rudolph hitting Garrett in the groin more than once, so he definitely wasn't 100% innocent either.


    I think you're blowing this WAY out of proportion.  He was driving too fast for sure.  But 65 in a 45 isn't some insane speed.  He wasn't being entirely reckless.  He wasn't drunk.  Hell, half of NFL fans drive home from games in worse shape than he would be.

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  3. 51 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

    Agreed. My problem with him is that he lies and gets away with it and then everyone kisses his butt and nominates him for man of the year and all of that and meanwhile he is a piece of garbage. Good football player, not a good human being


    Fake outrage much?  I pretty much guarantee that every one on this site has sped, and most have probably went 100+ or close to it.  Is it incredibly stupid?  Absolutely.  Does that make him a bad person?  Not necessarily.  If the animal wasn't hit, then Garrett is legally responsible and will be cited.  If the animal is hit, likely he would still be responsible but it can vary as well.  But that doesn't mean he lied about it.  They can tell pretty quickly whether you were speeding or not, so it isn't like lying about it would help anything.  You get cited either way.


    Garrett does a ton of work in the community and a ton to help kids and such.  He made several poor choices driving recently it seems, and he needs to correct them.  But stop with the "he's a garbage person" because of this.  No drinking, no drugs, both people with seat belts on.  Everybody has some bad to their name.

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  4. 3 hours ago, mannc said:

    You’re missing the point: I’d be fine with fewer regular season home games in December/January in Buffalo.  Nothing you can do about the playoffs…


    Right, but I am saying you can't just change it because it may happen.  Is Florida typically very hot in September? Sure, but It was 88+ in Ohio a week or so ago too.  


    If the temperature is insanely high, I get delaying the game until later that day or the evening, but you can't change how the entire 32 team schedule works because a couple stadiums could be hot, or cold.  Weather is a part of football and it always has been.  Rain, heat, cold, snow, wind.  It's all part of the game.  

  5. 44 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:


    There is no quantitative time component to completing the process.  Two steps with the ball and the ball is tucked to the chest when the defender makes the play on it.  I would like to see the complete play from more angles but the steps and the tuck should be all is needed.  I would like to hear an official breakdown but I agree the challenge is likely not to go their way.


    He didn't take "two steps" though.  He did get 2 feet down, but he didn't take 2 steps then.  But if Davis had fallen over without the defender and lost control on the way to the ground, or even when hitting the ground, it's not a catch.  You have to maintain control through the catch.  He caught it with 2 feet down, but immediately had the ball slapped out.

    40 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:


    The tuck was not completed. You either need a football move or the time to complete a football move. In this instance I'd say he was still in the process of tucking it away when it was knocked out. Incomplete. Similarly if that is in the field of play I think it is called incomplete rather than a catch and a fumble. 


    I like your second statement here.  If that exact thing happens at the 50 yard line, it's incomplete and not a fumble.  

  6. 3 hours ago, mannc said:

    That’s not what we’re talking about.  The Bills play the Dolphins twice.  There is no reason this game (as opposed to the week 18 game) had to be in Miami in September at 1:00. Why schedule games in extreme weather when it can easily be avoided?


    So no home playoff games in Buffalo in January?

    3 hours ago, IronyAbounds said:

    Normally, but when you're talking about teams in the same division and they have to play twice, it doesn't make sense to play the games at the time of year where weather is more likely to factor into the game.


    But the weather is part of the game. So no home games in Mami or Jacksonville in September? Carolina? No home games in Green Bay or Buffalo in December or January? 


    There are 32 teams to account for. You can't make the schedule purely based on what may happen. 

  7. 4 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:


    Not a drop if defender chopped it out.  Gabe did enough, two steps, tucked to his chest and TD.  Defender's action came after TD  criteria was met and was therefore irrelevant.


    It's not a drop,  but it's certainly not a catch either.  He didn't possess the ball long enough,  and wasn't able to complete the catch as the defender pulled it loose. 


    That isn't a catch, ever, and 100% would have lost a challenge. 


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  8. 6 hours ago, IronyAbounds said:

    You want one thing the NFL could do differently? How about not scheduling the Bills at Miami in September and Miami at Buffalo in December. Just idiotic that they'd schedule these games at times where the weather is very likely to play a factor. Just stupid.


    But weather does play a factor in football. That's been the case forever.  And the way it should be. 


    You can't schedule games around whether or not the weather may affect one team more than another. 

  9. 29 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

    This dude is most dirty player in NFL.  

    he was definitely grabbing Allen’s nuts in the pile.  He has a history of doing this. 


    Also has a history of trying to injure players.  Missed targeting call on his hit to Knox.


    Targeting is a college rule. 

  10. 6 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

    Wonder if the Steelers would part with Claypool for a mid-round pick.  They’ve got a glut of receivers of similar talent/profile.  I would LOVE him in this offense.


    Claypool is about as self centered as they come.  He's an idiot.  Immensely talented, but to me, not worth the extra that comes with it.  

  11. 4 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:


    Obviously he he didnt intend it. But you should not be touching another injured player period. Could have life altering consequences with neck type injuries. Even if it wasnt dirty it was still very dangerous and incredibly stupid.


    I don't think he had any clue he was injured.  It was hurry up, and he was laying on the guy's legs.  Obviously not intentionally looking back, but that does happen a lot when teams try to delay the ball getting snapped to run more time off.  

  12. 19 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

    I said the same thing earlier in the thread, they continually left one if not two receivers wide open because of the pressure they were trying to bring on Mahomes.


    Was a really bad defensive game plan.


    I'm assuming they were thinking he lost a lot of weapons, so he would panic.  Obviously that didn't happen.  Dumb game plan for sure.

  13. Just now, Rc2catch said:

    100% he’s made the case about him now and he’s loving the attention he’s getting. When this thread started his client was gonna get maximum value that they asked for. Each tweet is probably losing her money and killing all the leverage he had. 


    Her lawyer is trying to pressure the local PD to do something, same as the Watson situation.  Araiza has nowhere near the capital that Watson has, even before the contract, so looking at it as a money grab is much less likely, plus, she claimed to not know him when she went for the rape kit.  


    The local PD and university sat on this for 7 months without even investigating it.  Forcible gang rape is much worse than anything Watson was accused of (not that what is was accused of is ok), but it's amazing how many people have changed their tune when it happens closer to home.

  14. 1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said:

    I didn’t realize people could only be bruised and bleeding by anything other than rape? Same with going to the hospital? You must be of the “believe all women” camp?


    Yes, those things can happen during consensual sex, but rarely do women then tell everyone it was rape, and go to the hospital for a rape kit just for the fun of it.  

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  15. 38 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

    The Browns will be a league wide hated team, it's not just the DeShawn Watson thing, it's more about offering a fully Guaranteed contract that will eventually effect every nfl team.  


    Hated by who though?  The Watson will be in play, but the players won't hate Cleveland more for the contract.  Do you think the players will hate them more for doing something that, in the long term, will positively effect every NFL player?

  16. 23 hours ago, mbs said:

    I don't think safety should ever be a priority. And with this staff, a dropoff in DB talent isn't going hit as hard as other positions.


    These are the guys who closed the season for the number one defense in the NFL last year:


    Jordan Poyer (7th) terrible in Cleveland.
    Mikah Hyde (5th) backup safety/slot in GB. Great playoff run his last year.
    Taron Johnson (4th)
    Dane Jackson (7th)
    Levi Wallace (UDFA)


    That's three studs and two competent backs, all from pretty humble beginnings.


    Given the supposed attention other front offices are giving Benford (6th), I don't think McDermott is just finding diamonds in the rough. He's polishing whatever rocks he finds into gems and he can keep on doing it for a lot less money than Poyer is asking. He can't turn Dane into Reevis, but they won't be totally exposed with a mid round pick. Ehem, Josh Norman.


    This isn't really the case at any other position, so I'd rather see money spent on skill positions or even o-line, the latter being filled with turds that can't be polished. (I'm holding out hope that Kromer changes this.)


    On the other hand, be a witch Mr. Bean and keep him here. (at 2/32M)


    Poyer wasn't terrible in Cleveland.  Definitely not what he became in Buffalo, but when given consistent playing time, he performed pretty well.  They just changed coaches so often that he got passed over a lot.

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  17. 6 hours ago, DRsGhost said:


    Plenty of evidence that you've ignored because you've been told to.


    Want to square mail in voting is not secure vs. We just had the largest number of mail in votes in US history and golly gee it was also the most secure election on US history...


    Or nah?


    Simply saying " mail in ballots aren't secure" is not evidence though.  If there is evidence that fraud occurred, then show it, prosecute the people who did it, and move on.  If it is shown that people orchestrated it, then throw them in jail as well.


    There is fraud in almost every level of everything.  Not a lot anyone can do to completely prevent fraud.  But just shouting "this is fraudulent" without then showing that it actually was isn't the correct response either.  


    Would it have been fraudulent if Trump won as well?

  18. 4 hours ago, DRsGhost said:


    There never was nor will there ever be sufficient evidence of voter fraud. That was the whole point of the massive effort to make mail in voting seem innocuous and normal.


    Puking mail in ballots and applications everywhere is all the evidence you need to know that major shenanigans occurred. 


    Prior to 2020 it was universally accepted with bipartisan consensus that mail in voting invited great opportunity for voter fraud.


    See 2005 bi partisan commission co- chaired by President Carter. 




    Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.


    42% of the total ballots cast in 2020 were by mail or at mail in drop boxes. Previously the highest proportion in a Presidential election was around 20%. Given these previous warnings about mail in voting that were bipartisan, it's therefore incumbent on apologists such as yourself to square the previous bipartisan warnings of mail in voting making our elections less secure, with the overnight 180 in labeling the 2020 election as the most secure election in US history. 






    Yet investigations by BOTH sides have returned no major instances of voter fraud.

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