Seventeen
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7 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:
I would think not NYG bc Eli.
I would also think not nyj.
I actually have no idea and admit it. I'm just thinking big city kid would want the big city and the Giants have that winning tradition. Eli is on the decline as well.
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7 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:
Are you saying that is his preference?
Nope, I have no idea. But if you forced him to order the 4 teams, that would be my guess.
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10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
I love people speculating where Rosen wants to play where he hasn’t said one thing.
Any thread about the draft is pure speculation.
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Just now, SouthNYfan said:
Buffalo > Cleveland
NY Giants > NY Jets > Denver > Buffalo
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7 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:
He knows Rosen doesn't want to go to Cleveland
He's helping his boy out
Which probably means Rosen don't want to come to Buffalo either.
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1 hour ago, NickelCity said:
I think the Giants at 2 and Browns at 4 would be unwise to trade down, but I want them to. I think we'll trade into 6 if the Broncos pass on a QB. But yeah, eff the colts.
Don't think the Colts are trading #6 if Chubb is out there.
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6 minutes ago, Logic said:
True. But notwithstanding the fact that they were a good team before Wentz arrived, pointing out that he won two national championships doesn't exactly diminish my point that Wentz did better against inferior competition than Allen did. I get it: Allen's surrounding cast stunk. But again, so did his competition, and it doesn't seem to me like he did enough to elevate his team or to show that he's anything more than a list of physical traits that don't necessarily add up to a starting caliber NFL quarterback.If you're throwing to a bunch of guys that either can't catch or can't get open, your stats are gonna suffer. And if they can't get open against inferior DBs, that makes it even tougher for Allen to up his completion %.
I would think it's fairly obvious that Mayfield, Rosen & Darnold had a better cast of characters on offense than Allen. Let's see how many offensive players are drafted out of OU, USC & UCLA vs Wyoming.
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Just now, Chuck Wagon said:
Ain't that the truth. I'm a Buckeye fan who hates JT Barrett. I've had to see "stats" supporters claim he's good because he would shovel the ball to Jalin Marshall who would take it 60 yards to the house. All you see by looking at the numbers is "60 yard TD pass".
And obviously the shorter the passes, generally the higher the completion %s.
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4 minutes ago, Logic said:
I mean, fair enough..but while Allen was surrounded by inferior skill position players, he was also playing AGAINST inferior skill position players.
If a guy comes out of a lesser conference, I want to see that he DOMINATED that conference. Wentz dominated in college. Allen, on the other hand, threw only 16 TDs this season. Not encouraging, given that he was going against all those vaunted Mountain West defenses ever week!Allen missed 3 games though so the 16 TDs probably would be higher.
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3 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:
If Allen played at Oklahoma, with their talent and coaching, I would have to believe the stats would say something VERY different than at Wyoming. If completion % is really hanging people up, circumstances come into play.
Right on ... circumstances like length of passes thrown , quality of receivers, ability of receivers to get open, offensive scheme, wind/weather, etc
Yards after catch can make a QB look really good at times.
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16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I feel the same way about Allen. I know he played at Wyoming and doesn't have the greatest talent to work with but also didn't play against higher level competition consistently.
His production is just lacking for me.
I haven't seen Allen play a lot so I'm relying on what other "experts" are saying about him and the video I've seen....both highlights, lowlights and breakdowns. His accuracy is just so inconsistent I'm not sure it can be fixed.
Russell Wilson played in the ACC his 1st 3 years and was sub 60% completion. Transferred to Wisconsin and was 70 +. If Wilson had come out after his junior year, folks would have said the same thing about him.
I would like to think Allen would have improved his senior year, but no way to really know. I'm sure part of his decision was related to how Wyoming was looking for next year.
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3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
It is ridiculous that Colin Kaepernick had a successful career including 2 trips to NFC Championship and 1 Super Bowl and in in his prime gets ZERO interest. Yet a guy who had a short un productive career is for some reason getting interest.
If it were up to me, I'd sign Colin today and name him the presumptive starter. Stop screwin' around Beane.
Ridiculous as he can play, but there is no question he is blacklisted due to the kneeling.
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25 minutes ago, dpberr said:
I don't know why they went back to 1990. Wholly irrelevant IMO unless there's a rationale that just isn't detailed there.
The quarterback of 1991 isn't the one you needed in 2000. The QB of 2000 isn't the one you need in 2018.
A guy like Jeff George would be a 2nd round pick today. Sure, can throw the ball a country mile but very inaccurate.
But somehow stayed in the NFL for 11-12 years
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33 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:
Yea, his face is very punchable. Especially dressed like this.
No different than Jack Eichel growing up a Bruins fan and playing for the Sabres. Wanna punch him too ?
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21 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:
In another thread I posted a list of teams whose need for a QB to be drafted in this upcoming draft into 4 categories.
My assessment is that currently 17 teams have no need to use a draft pick at the QB position.
4 are must draft
7 have Needs but have higher priority needs
4 have needs round 2 or later.
As I review the available QB's there may not be 15 worthy of a draft selection.
Your thoughts on this post and can you identify the teams in each category?
I'll take a shot ...
The 4 must drafts are the Browns / Jets / Bills / Cardinals
Next 7 are Saints / Steelers / Dolphins / Broncos / Giants / Chargers / Ravens
Last 4 are Patriots / Colts / Packers / Redskins
How'd I do ?
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18 minutes ago, vincec said:
Very possible that the Broncos take Chubb in that scenario. Or Barkley if the Browns have taken him already. It's honestly hard to imagine that QBs would go 4 our of the first 5 picks. Nothing close to that has ever happened in the history of the draft that I'm aware of.
True, but I don't think we've ever seen 4 QBs hyped like this year and so many teams needing QBs.
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2 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:
Unless Arizona comes up I see only Darnold and Rosen going in the top 11 picks. Browns and Jets going QB.
Giants and Browns at 2 & 4 are taking a different direction, Broncos and Colts may use their position to trade out with a team like Arizona who may decline based on Mayfield, Allen, Jackson and to a lesser degree Rudolph being available and only Buffalo positioned to take a QB ahead of them.
So I honestly see the Bills having their pick of Mayfield, Allen, Jackson or Rudolph at 12 and not seeing another highly probable QB team need other then Arizona at 15.
The question is, if this scenario plays out, who do the Bills select?
I say Allen, but most here will say Mayfield.
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9 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said:
NFL mock draft 2018: First-round projections, top players
Land of 10 predictions for first round
- Cleveland Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, USC
- New York Giants — Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
- New York Jets — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
- Cleveland Browns — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
- Denver Broncos — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
- Indianapolis Colts –Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
- Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Derwin James, DB, Florida State
- Chicago Bears — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
- San Francisco 49ers — Denzel Ward, DB, Ohio State
- Oakland Raiders — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
- Miami Dolphins — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
- Buffalo Bills — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
- Washington Redskins — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
- Green Bay Packers — Marcus Davenport, DL, UTSA
- Arizona Cardinals — Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
- Baltimore Ravens — Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
- Los Angeles Chargers — Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
- Seattle Seahawks — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
- Dallas Cowboys — Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan
- Detroit Lions — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
- Cincinnati Bengals — Arden Key DB, LSU
- Buffalo Bills — Mike Hughes, CB, UCF
- Los Angeles Rams — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
- Carolina Panthers — Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
- Tennessee Titans — Mike McGlinchey, G, Notre Dame
- Atlanta Falcons — Vita Vea, DL, Washington
- New Orleans Saints — Connor Williams, G/T, Texas
- Pittsburgh Steelers — Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas
- Jacksonville Jaguars — Harold Landry, LB, Boston College
- Minnesota Vikings — Billy Price, OL, Ohio State
- New England Patriots — Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
- Philadelphia Eagles — Ogbonnia Okoronwko, LB, Oklahoma
Would love this draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All depends on the G-men and whether they take Rosen at #2 - then Mayfield goes #3 to the Jets and Allen #5 to the Broncos.
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Allen could fall if 1-Darnold, 2-Chubb/Barkley, 3-Rosen, 4-Chubb/Barkely and the Broncs don't take QB. That would get Allen to #11 to the Fins.
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Gotta wonder if another team that needs a QB will try and jump the Bills and Dolphins @ 11.
Definitely need QBs - Browns / Giants / Jets / Cardinals / Chargers / Saints / Steelers
Possible QBs - Broncos / Dolphins / Saints / Steelers / Patriots / maybe even Ravens
Thoughts ?
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We don't move up and ...
Darnold / Rosen / Mayfield are gone and ...
The Cards and Chargers are still @ 15 & 17 but the Steelers or the Saints have moved up before #22 and want a QB.
Allen ? Jackson ? Rudolph ? Or none of them ?
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41 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said:
Bills have so many holes to fill they'd be wise to use all of their draft picks; and judging by the way Mara's been talking about OBJ, there's no guarantee that he'll be re-signed. DE, LB, RB, OT, OG, WR, CB are all needs they need to fill before they even think about taking a QB IMO. They've lost so many pieces this offseason. JPP, DRC, Justin Pugh, were all key pieces.
I think this deal gets done on draft day.
FIFY
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26 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:
Josh Allen has missed games like Josh Rosen. Why is one considered brittle and the other a tough guy?
Allen had a shoulder sprain - Rosen has had a shoulder surgery on his throwing shoulder and two concussions.
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Allen as Keenum's backup
Josh Rosen’s coach said he would take Darnold 1st
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I don't see any of the 4 top QBs starting the 1st year and it may be a big mistake to plug Rosen in behind the Buffalo OL his first year and have him running for his life
Also, unless we seriously upgrade our WRs, who is he going to throw to ? Let A.J. earn his $ this year as I don't expect much from the BIlls and certainly not the playoffs.
Hope I'm wrong.