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Seventeen

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  1. 20 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

     

     

    13 and 15 were the deep men

     

    Hill was not on the field. 

     

    Bass kicked it too far - I just watched it again.  I'm pretty convinced he f...ed up

     

     

    16:00 mark

     

     

     

    Pringle was the deep man - 15 is Mahomes.

     

    The higher shorter kick to the 5-15 was probably the best play but who knows what Bass was told and by whom. 

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  2. 10 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    I would submit that the team and QB facing by far the most pressure this weekend are the LA Rams and Matt Stafford.  The Rams have traded away their future to win a Super Bowl NOW.  And Stafford is nearing the end of a long career where he has NEVER WON a playoff game.  Should Arizona knock the Rams out of the playoffs and Stafford not play well that would have a bad impact on the QB and team going for

     

    I would add Prescott and the Cowboys along with the Rams. 

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  3. 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    I can get that as a point.  

     

    The fact that Mayfield has more INTs and fewer TDs than either of them may have something to do with the lack of investment as well - both Jackson and Allen have produced a better ROI.  And face it, Mayfield played a role in getting Hue Jackson fired and replaced by a guy who was way over his head in Kitchens.

     

    Jackson should have been fired after the 2017 season. 

  4. 15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    I dunno, here’s the transcript of his presser

     

    Here’s the key quote which I admit sounds less finger-pointy at Baker than the excerpt:

     

    Here’s the transcript of his whole post-game presser.  I have to say if it was Daboll or McDermott saying things like that about Allen, I would interpret it as “not completely sold” and “not enthusiastic”.  

     

     

    It just seems like there are things he could honestly say that would be positive and complimentary to Baker that he’s not saying.  Stuff fellow players have said about his toughness and his willingness to play through the injury and give his all for the team etc etc.

     

     

    Gotta admit I didn't listen to the whole presser or read the transcript - just cherry-picked Trotter's tweet. Thanks for the link. 

     

    I don't doubt Stefanski would agree with the assessment about his toughness and willingness to play but that doesn't answer the burning question as to whether he still can produce at the NFL level and can he be fixed. 

     

    And IMO, this quote kinda sums up where Stefanski is at with Baker ... 

     

    On assessing Mayfield’s performance during the 2021 season:

    “I will wait to talk about reflecting on this season. There will be time for that. Ultimately, I am frustrated for Baker, not to be able to finish the season and those type of things, but anything past that, I will wait to discuss.”……

     

    ... meaning I need to talk to Haslam and see if we want this guy around next year. Why doesn't he just say he expects Baker to be back to his 2020 performance level after the surgery and he's our guy ? 

     

     

  5. 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    Wouldn’t that be implicating the OC?  In any event, the coaching staff, which ultimately is the HC responsibility

     

    Anyway, so Baker said the blocking schemes should have been different to help with Watt during the Pittsburgh game, and Stefanski said sometimes Watt did have help, and other times the ball was supposed to get out quickly before Watt got there and didn’t, which points the finger at Baker.  Meanwhile did Baker say anything about “I have to do a better job at finding the quick passes and getting the ball out”?  I’m gathering not.

     

    Yeah, that doesn’t sound like Love Peace and Harmony in Berea.  Maybe Cabot is on to something.

     

    According to Stefanski, all good ... 

     

     

  6. 8 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

     

    It was Aikman. When the Bills were on the clock he was openly campaigning for Rosen. I get the impression an executive got to him and told him to chill, because he eased back a little bit when then Bills took Allen over Rosen. Said he understood why the Bills did it because (in a snooty tone) "Allen was a good fit for Buffalo".

     

     

    Wonder how Aikman feels about his boy Rosen now ? 

  7. 5 minutes ago, cle23 said:

     

    Right, they shouldn't pay him anywhere near top QB money.  I do believe he is above average, but he is too inconsistent.  This year is kind of hard to say because he got hurt early in the 2nd game of the year and was obviously not the same as he was before.  But only the guys in the building, and Baker himself, will truly know how much that hampered him.  It is extremely odd to have the season he had last year with a brand new head coach, and then regress that bad in year 2 simply by chance.  I think the injury was the major factor, but he is on essentially a 1 year prove it deal next season.  

     

    Either way, Mary Kay isn't a good writer.  There are have been more than once or twice that people have asked if she was serious after questions, and it's not just players and such.  Maybe she isn't good in the way she words questions, but being a writer for this many years, she should have a handle on it by now.

     

    I'm warming up to @GunnerBill's belief Mayfield will be back for his 5th year in Cleveland if . .. 

    1. His throwing mechanics are restored by the labrum surgery
    2. There is no rift between him and Stefanski 
    3. Haslam doesn't want to trade up and replace him 
    4. They get him a better receiver core 
    5. They return him to a rollout QB instead of pocket passer as they can't fix the batted down passes
    6. They can't trade for a better option or acquire his replacement via FA
  8. 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

     

     

    What QBs currently in the NFL would you want for the next 7-10 years here is what I think GMs would tell you:

     

    1.  Mahomes

    2. Allen

    3. Herbert

    4. Burrow

    5. Murray

     

     

     

     

    And I can't argue that.  I don't think there is anyone else including Lamar and Dak that I'd pick over these guys.  Lawrence hasn't impressed at all.  And with regime change coming already for him, man what a disaster that could be. 

     

    Jury still out:

     

    Hurts 

    Lawrence 

    Zach Wilson 

    Tua 

     

     

    Awaiting a Grand Jury:

     

    Watson 

     

     

    I think you can add Mayfield to the 'Jury still out' group. 

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  9. 4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

    Mayfield is a coach killer.  Killed off Jackson & Kitchens, now can't get along with his 3rd head coach.  

    Darnold may not have personality clashes but his play on the field kills coaches too.  

    There are a lot more coach killing QBs than coaches who ruin QBs.  

     

    Had issues at the time with Kingsbury as well

  10. 43 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    Saints and Baker Mayfield make a lot of sense.

     

    I like this idea - maybe Payton can turn Baker into Brees.

     

    1 minute ago, FireChans said:

    Another OSU QB. This one is different from Fields/Haskins/Barrett/Jones, we swear.

     

    As long as he's different than Art Schlichter, he'll be OK. 

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