Seventeen
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8 minutes ago, klos63 said:
You don't get it do you? Mayfield will be back this week, Davis is out 2 games, zero chance of that changing. Mayfield had a chance to play last week. An advantage doesn't mean a guarantee. Kinda like home field advantage doesn't mean you win every home game.
What I get is that the differentiation between vaxxed and unvaxxed players should not exist in the NFL rules.
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1 minute ago, klos63 said:
If it really was a serious question, Phil would ask a doctor or listen to the ones already discussing this, not ask on twitter.
Maybe he's asking because there are so many different opinions on the vax and he thinks Dr. Fauci is a clown.
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2 minutes ago, nucci said:
I don't get the let people get it stuff. Why do people want to get sick?
No one wants people to get sick but when does it end ?
People have gotten bad flus for centuries and we did nothing to protect the immunocompromised or the except offer them the option of getting a flu shot which may or not protect them against every possible flu variant out there. Did you see anyone wearing a mask prior to March 2020 except for those who recently went through chemo ?
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Just now, Jauronimo said:
That argument holds up well in court.
When does it end and how many new variants do we need to tip toe around ? How many variants of the flu do we have ?
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4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Everyone knew the rules. Stop blaming the rules.
At the beginning of the season vaccinated people were not testing positive en masse. Omicron to the Beasleys out there has been like hitting your inside straight draw on the river and saying you knew it all along.
Maybe the NFL needs to rethink their rules ...
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7 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Vaccination is the difference between getting tested way more often and mandatorily missing 10 days and often 2 games vs. having a shot to play with a negative test. The rules were clear. Vaccination is a competitive advantage.
If it was a competitive advantage, Mayfield would have been cleared for last Monday's game.
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6 minutes ago, Virgil said:
If he misses this game for personal reasons, he should just retire or Beane should retire him.
While I hope nothing tragic happened, football is not his priority and we can’t afford this crap with him.
I'm hoping this is a planned ploy to keep unvaxxed Star healthy until kickoff.
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3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
Don’t want to get into a vaccination debate, but omicron is claiming both vaccinated and unvaccinated equally. And based even on the NFL protocols, no one is coming back early.So pause the season - much as I hate the Browns, wasn't really fair what happened and is still happening to them.
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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-add-gabriel-davis-and-cody-ford-to-the-reserve-covid-19-list
Star Lotulelei will miss a second practice for "Personal Reasons" - WTF?
Time to cut bait - guaranteed the "personal" is related to not wanting to be exposed to the variant. Trade him post season or just eat the dead cap for next year.
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2 hours ago, Buftex said:
Seeing Jack Kemp at #10, with 25 is even more surprising to me!
Kemp's career completion % of 46.4 with the Bills was even more surprising.
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2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:
Eichel got Eichelitis on draft night I think. He was the problem the whole time. Coach after coach...
They have better help.
If Josh continues to run at this pace, he will get hurt and it will be on Beane. Fix the play calling since we can't fix the OL this season.
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5 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:
He really needs some help out there.
Yep ... get him some help before he develops Eichelitis and wants out of Buff.
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Ain't over by a long shot ...
We could sneak by the Bucs, beat Carolina @ home after Indy beats NE the night before.
Sets up another showdown in Foxboro on 12.26 for the division lead
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2 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
I don't think I've ever seen so many 2nd and 3rd hand "reports" of a player being arrogant, entitled, etc.
Seems that every other poster on here has a friend that went to college with Rosen that thought he was a jerk.
I still think he was given an awfully raw deal in both ARZ and MIA. I think the quality of the roster strongly contributed towards his terrible numbers - check out Bradford's and Fitz's stats for those seasons, respectively.
Given a stable situation and a team committed to him maybe he would've improved to being a good QB. Who can say? I will say his rookie season wasn't very much different from the right Josh's
I guess you could apply the "raw deal" theory to Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, Trey Lance, Justin Fields ?
Play well despite the circumstances and you'll be around while and after the team rebuilds.
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3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:
Wow! Really? Starting to think this kids sense of entitlement was his downfall. Sure he's cocky, but so are all young QBs. He just never bothered putting in the work.
Yep, saw it here ...
https://heavy.com/sports/2018/04/josh-rosen-family-jewish-mom-dad/
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20 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:
I may be in the minority here but I actually feel kinda bad for the kid. Like Darnold I feel he didn't get the commitment to develop and build around them from the team that drafted them. You get drafted and then your new HC runs you out of town the following year. WTF Arizona!!
That being said, I'm so glad we have our guy! Good luck to you Joshua Ballinger Lippincott Rosen😝
With his bloodlines, I don't feel so bad. Never knew the Wharton School @ UPenn was named after his great-grandfather.
Have to wonder how hungry he was coming into the league, knowing he was sitting on a pot of gold.
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5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
But you were doing so well...
Thanks - glad you enjoyed the convo.
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3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Since in the cases which have come to light, Watson specified that he was looking for a "massage for relaxation, not a sports massage", asking for licensed sports massage therapists would not produce the relevant names.
But let's just look at the bigger issue here. You're proposing a conspiracy that hasn't come unglued. That relies on all the moving parts of the conspiracy to keep silent. Now you're proposing that in order to start the conspiracy off, whoever it is you think is conspiring against Watson - who is it, anyway? McNair? Easterby? Caserio? Someone in McNair's pay who doesn't work for the Texans? - left a trail by going around to Texans staff and players asking "who do you use to give you massages?". Now, somehow, none of these teammates and coaches and staff, have "connected the dots" and come forward to say "McNair's personal assistant contacted me 6 weeks ago to ask for names and contact info of all the "personal relaxation massage therapists" we use. Now Watson is being sued by a bevy of personal relaxation massage therapists. Hell of a coincidence, isn't it?"
You just multiplied the number of people who must keep silent to support the conspiracy by a large factor - 5 or 10x, making a united front of silence even more improbable.
Read Hapless post right here
Many posts ago, I said it was a theory. And I didn't come up with the conspiracy theory ... there are folks who think the McNairs are in on it as retribution for Watson saying he would never play for the Texans again for various reasons. I'm out ...
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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
How would your employer get the names of all the massage therapists you have procured services from over the past year?
Read Hapless' post above and then speak to the ~70 other Texans as to who they use.
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5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Well, none of this involves criminal charges, so any such talk is a distraction. He's being sued. It would be obvious these women have some text messaging, IG, etc trail they will present. We have heard a similar story published about a similar experience involving a woman who is not suing him.
Interestingly, the lawyer is the same one who defended Mario Williams's ex-fiancee in his suit against her. Not only did he counter-sue, he released text messages which ultimately forced Williams to settle his case.
Not yet - she was evaluating her options at the time of the SI story.
2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:How? Apparently two were recommended by training staff in the Texans facility, so if they ask everyone in the facility "hey, did you ever recommend any massage therapists to DeShaun Watson?" and that staff happens to remember that conversation and happens to remember who they recommended (or did it by text) I guess they could get those two names.
Do you think these licensed sport massage therapists just worked on Watson ? What about asking the other team members who they see ?
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6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
This is the problem with any conspiracy and for its theorists: the simplest questions cannot be answered. When pressed on the details of the logic of their theory, invariably they say to the doubter (strangely): "you figure it out".
You don't think the owner could get the names of the massage therapists Watson was seeing or had seen ?
4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:She did not book him again.
She said she hypothetically would if he would meet certain conditions he apparently found unacceptable, as he did not book.
True, but the fact she said she would tells me she either wasn't that bothered by his conduct or he tipped really well.
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4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
Why not Lizard People? UFOs? The Russians? Just a theory.As I said, it's a theory as no one looked at the other side. But carry on if it makes you feel better.
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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:
Calls to who? And how would the owners know he was having regular lewd massages? How did they keep this massive conspiracy hushed up to this very day as it unfolds? And how is it that Watson's lawyer has not counter-sued the owners for concocting such a bold and outrageous scheme to defame their under-contract superstar?
Tell us more....
No, I'd rather not - I'll let you use your detective skills to figure it out or maybe not as you seem to have it all figured out. How would you know whether Hardin plans to counter-sue the women ? Because it hasn't happened yet ?
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9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
LOL I don't have to produce the texts. The plaintiffs have in their suits. Maybe you have missed all of the news reports detailing some of these?
Anyway, let's get back to the conspiracy you are considering. How do you think it went down? The lawyer and the owners were able to somehow track down 19 women that Watkins received "sports massage" from? How did they get such a list of people? Who other than Watson would know who they all were?
Help us out here. Your conjecture is fascinating. Elaborate...
What prompted the women to come forward in the 1st place ? All 19 sought out Buzbee from the yellow pages ? How many of the women had Watson as a repeat customer despite their allegations ?
Getting a list of sports massage therapists that worked on Watson ? A few phone calls is all it would take.
8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:Because there's no physical evidence tying Watson to anything these women are saying. Texts and online messages that set up meetings are not enough to prove he did anything illegal. What we have is over 20 different women all telling a different version of the same story. That is enough evidence to hold up in civil court and certainly in the court of Roger Goodell, but not criminal court. Many people have tried to explain this to you so at this point you're being willfully ignorant.
According to Watson's lawyer, it's a crock. So we'll see ...
10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:The texts we know about appear to just be arranging massages. Nothing wrong with that, though using so many different massage therapists seems strange.
However, it is telling to me that a woman who gave Watson a massage he booked through her colleague, felt it necessary to text that she would book him if he would behave more professionally and agree to be draped with a sheet this time, or that she gives "massage, nothing else"
Even more telling she would book him again if his previous conduct was unacceptable.
Gabe Davis on covid list
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How many games had he missed prior to this one due to being positive ? How many vaxxed players in the NFL have tested positive ?