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Seventeen

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  1. 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

     

    He's not been charged and no one has pressed charges, so that doesn't matter for this discussion.  He's being sued.

     

    But go ahead and answer my question:  how did this lawyer and the team owner plant all those texts (that he is now furiously deleting) on his cell phone.  They would had to have for your conspiracy to be at all plausible.  How did they do it?

     

    No one planted any texts but until you can produce evidence of incriminating texts, it's a non-prosecutable money grab. And how would you know Watson is furiously deleting texts on his cell phone ? 

     

    4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    So I have him almost certainly liable by the civil standard. I think based on the information in the public domain having him guilty by the criminal standard is much less certain, but that is because of the high standard in criminal law and the fact that what there is in the public domain is a lot of circumstantial evidence rather than conclusive proof of criminal action. 

     

    Your theory is, with respect, bonkers. 

     

    Maybe so - it's just a theory. 

     

    14 minutes ago, Beast said:

     

    Here's the thing about criminal charges...you need to have a cooperative victim to procede. If you have no victims that want to cooperate with a criminal investigation, there is no case. You can't force someone to cooperate.

     

    The Oklahoma City police department had no trouble getting 13 cooperative victims to proceed against Daniel Holtzclaw. So these women would just want compensation instead of Watson being criminally charged if indeed he actually did something criminal ? 

     

  2. 5 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

    Have you ever seen what happens to women who come forward with sexual assault claims?

     

    Death threats, character assassination, stalking, threats to family members. Even if Watson is guilty, these women will now be known as the people that ended Watson's career, not the other way around

     

    I have a hard time understanding the "money grab" theory. It just doesn't match with reality 

     

    If Watson is guilty, his career should be over. I have no problem believing that massage therapists filing civil suits against Watson are looking for $. 

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  3. 12 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

    Who wants to take the over/under this thread goes south around page 37, and closed down.  I’ve given my sincere responses before, but now this is going down personal attacks.  It will all play out.

     

    I don’t know how you can make some of the assertions being made by a minority on one side or another.

     

    Exactly - I'm leaning toward Watson being guilty and almost everyone else here already has him guilty with no criminal charges filed. I put a theory out there as far-fetched as it may be and if I'm way off, so what ? Wouldn't be the 1st time someone in a position of power tried to ruin someone. 

     

    But until there's evidence that Watson is guilty other than words, I will wait until it plays out. 

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  4. 11 minutes ago, mannc said:

    Do you realize how little sense you're making right now? 

     

    Either the claims in the lawsuits are true or not. If they're not, someone paid these ladies to manufacture the claims against Watson. Let's assume the claims are false. Who would've paid the women to make them up, contact Buzbee, and get the lawsuits filed ? 

  5. 1 minute ago, mannc said:

    And how is that a better outcome for the McNairs and the Texans than trading Watson to the NY Jets (or some other team) for 3 or 4 first round draft picks, which would also solve the problem of the $156 million contract?  

     

    To you, it might not be but maybe the McNairs are vindictive SOBs who basically are taking the position "don't f*k with us". You don't want to play with us so you'll end up playing nowhere. Or maybe there's more to the story we haven't heard yet. Or maybe yet, he's actually guilty of the accusations and the timing is coincidental. 

  6. 1 minute ago, mannc said:

    What’s your theory?  That the McNairs paid off 20 or so otherwise law-abiding women to engage in a criminal conspiracy to extort Deshaun Watson, even knowing he’s rich and will be able to defend himself with the best lawyers in the country?   And the motive would be to devalue their franchise’s prime asset...Makes perfect sense.

     

    Don't really have a theory but I'm sure Watson's $156 mil contract would be voided if the McNair's lawyers could prove any misconduct legally and no other team would even sign Watson essentially ending his football career. The timing is certainly suspicious given Watson's stance of not ever playing for the Texans again. 

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  7. 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said:

     

    I'm a big innocent until proven guilty type person. I get we live in a very litigious society and some are looking for handouts, but te evidence, especially this piece, is quite damning.

     

    This is psychopathic and he has a serious problem. 

     

    Even with the number of women that have come forward, there are some who believe that the Texans are orchestrating this whole thing with Buzbee as retribution for Watson's threat to sit out. Rumor also is that Buzbee is a close pal of Cal McNair and they live practically next door to each other. Whole thing mirrors the Daniel Holtzclaw crimes and I would expect criminal charges to be filed soon. 

  8. 15 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


    yeah, you could be right. we will see. I do think though most personal injury lawyers with a slam dunk case know how to get these things done. It’s in their interest not to pursue it in court, which will just slow down how they get paid. And the math here isn’t going to be disputed Much— I think you get someone to put together basically a life care plan and estimate of lost earning capacity. If I had to guess, this is going to be like a $10M+.

     

    the one issue might be whether Britt Reid doesn’t have the money and his dad or the chiefs won’t contribute to a settlement. 

     

    If he was drinking at the Chiefs' facility, the Hunt family might have to contribute to the settlement. 

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  9. 12 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

    I was a big Payne fan! Too bad I never got to see him play live in person. He went out on top with US Open and Ryder Cup that year. But yeah colorful guy and dressed lt up on the course!

     

    I lived in Orlando in the 90s and saw Payne about town a few times at the supermarket, post office and saw him play @ Bay Hill a few times. Also was lucky enough to be at the 1999 Ryder Cup for the big comeback on Sunday and when Payne was so gracious to Colin Montgomerie. 

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  10. 1 hour ago, Doc said:

     

    Maybe not immediate, but with the way it has been going in the NFL, sooner rather than later. 

     

    And whether he's got good football left is the million dollar question.  Are you trading away picks and giving him a decent salary to find out?  And even with a decent OL in Philly, he still got hurt.

     

    If I'm Chris Ballard - maybe if I can get him for a couple of 2nds the closer I get to roster bonus day. I'd be concerned about the past injuries, but I'm sure any deal would include him passing a comprehensive physical. I'm also giving proper weight to the 2020 season based on OL and RB/WR injuries. Wentz was sacked 50 times in 13 games in 2020. Is that gonna happen with the Colts OL ? Not likely - biggest question is whether Wentz is the best option available. 

        

  11. 25 minutes ago, MJS said:

    You might be holding onto the past too much. Wentz has seriously regressed. He threw 16 TD's and 15 INT's last year. Rating of 72.8. 

     

    Trubisky has played better than that every single year of his career. He threw 16 TD's and only 8 INT's last year. Good for a 93.5 rating.

     

    I do think Wentz would probably be marginally better, but no, he is not that much of an upgrade and the Bears would do well to look for someone better. Wentz isn't going to miraculously revive his career. You might as well stick with who you got and draft someone or try to trade for someone better.

     

    I wouldn't be so sure about that considering his OL and main offensive weapons weren't available for much of 2020.

     

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2020_injuries.htm

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  12. 33 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

    Update

     

    Sounds as though there may be some impairment 😥

    Hopefully therapy will help a lot and the family will be able to afford the best.

     

     

     

    According to this from the KCPD, sounds like she's off the ventilator but unresponsive. Not good ... 

     

    https://www.kmbc.com/article/kcpd-5-year-old-breathing-unassisted-still-unresponsive-after-being-injured-in-crash-involving-former-chiefs-assistant-coach-britt-reid/35522983

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