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I could have saved you a ton of time. As it turns out.... a QB's yds/gm actually appears to be a pretty good indicator of team success. Who would have guessed that quarterbacks who are able to move the football down the field by throwing it with the goal of scoring points are more likely to win games? Weird, I know. Join me, Hap. Let's go on this little adventure together. Let's look at the top 10 QBs in yds/gm from last season and their W-L records & the bottom 10 QBs in yds/gm and their W-L records: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/passing.htm#passing::20 After 8 seconds or so of hard statistical analysis, certain trends started to become apparent. Out of the top 10, only 2 had a losing record. Of the Top 5.... none of them had a losing record. Out of the bottom 10, only 3 QBs had a winning record. Out of the Bottom 5... well, only one of them had a winning record. (Here's a hint: he has a new pronunciation of his name this year.)

Ding! Ding! Ding! There is a reason my profile picture is what it is.

Listen man, it's "Social Justice" Schopp.

Meet the new Tyrod. Same as the old Tyrod. But he didn't turn the ball over.

Name one. I can't think of a "signature" Tyrod play from last season. No clutch throw, no huge run... nothing.

Mayfield throws for a 1st down on 3rd & long. Amazing.

If only Cleveland would design an offense around Taylor's strengths. Maybe they could get him some real weapons, too.

Right. The question is "how many of them are there?" If the answer is "a lot" -- then we need to reconsider a few things. If the answer is "not many" -- then why are we wasting our time on a relatively insignificant & powerless group of individuals?

Actually, yes. Because if there is a significant proportion of Bills fans that think this way, then I don't want to associate myself with this group anymore. You should feel the same way. If it's an insignificant handful of idiots who are mad at the world for their own failures, then it's just an unfortunate reality of a large group of people -- there are always going to be a few problems. If this is the case, then they don't deserve this much (or any) attention. Ignore them. If the overwhelming majority of Bills fans (my guess is 99.999%) don't feel that way about TT, then why accuse an entire region of being closet hood-wearing klansmen?

I don't doubt that. Ignorant a****les exist -- and unfortunately -- will always exist. But what is your best estimate of that "non-zero" percentage? 1% of Bills fans? 10%? 25% 50%?

Virtue signaling for SJW peer-group validation is all you get from the Deadspin crowd. Magary is the king of this nonsense. Even if the racism doesn't really exist, just make it up to show your online friends how 'woke' you are.

Denver tried. Kap refused.

They've been in this "find a QB" mode in the preseason before... and still ran the ball a ton. Granted, those coaching staffs were immensely stupid.

No. There was an actual professional passing offense on display last night -- something we haven't seen in Buffalo since 2002, arguably. I would say that's a win for everyone involved. Haha... why do you think I posted this thread?

Do go on. If you have it all figured out, I'd love to hear your take on it.

Happy to be back, CB!

I'm not saying it means anything. I'm just appreciating the irony, that's all.

Just the threat of Allen's deep ball really opens up a defense. The entire field is in play at any time now with this kid under center -- it's definitely different than the "ground & pound" we've been stuck with and LONG overdue.

Just wanted to point that out. TT looked good in CLE tonight too.

This sports take is so hot, I need to take off my pants.

Well, I suppose you're right. There's still a slim chance that your defense will run something back for a TD to win the game. Because Tyrod sure as h*ll isn't going to make a play to win a game late. "The Bills (3-0) won courtesy of yet another Ryan Fitzpatrick-led rally, overcoming a 21-0 second-quarter deficit. It was reminiscent to what the Bills did in a 38-35 win over Oakland a week earlier, when they scored touchdowns on their final five possession to overcome a 21-3 deficit." http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/09/25/brady-throws-four-picks-bills-beat-patriots-34-31/ I actually forgot about that Oakland game. They are both the same, they just lose in different ways. I guess we're both kind of right on this one.

Not converting key first downs or scoring points also singlehandedly loses games. (See: Playoff game vs JAX) Tyrod has lost many games for the Bills due to his lack of production. It's just not as obvious as a late INT. They are the same player: competent backups who can easily lose you a game.

Tell you what.... I won't even respond to this and will give you a chance to go look up Brian Hoyer's game log from 2017 and edit your post. As for the second point, it apparently went over your head. To answer your question, no -- no one else is making that connection except me. The reason for that is because there is such a dedicated effort around here to emphasize the mountain of "obstacles" poor ol' Tyrod had to overcome on his way to 180 yards passing every game. Miraculous! So, I give you JG as an example of a guy who also had obstacles -- a similar set of no-name weapons, no offseason preparation, moving to the other side of the country, and playing for a bad football team overall. The offense wasn't "designed for him", he wasn't even on the team until November. Yet, he managed to actually run a respectable passing offense. See what I'm getting at here?

Tell me who Jimmy Garappolo, Brian Hoyer, and CJ Beathard were throwing to out in SF. Because those three seemed to find ways to "push the ball downfield". Hell, JG didn't even start the season on that team. No OTAs, no training camp, nothing other than a month of practices and he was already putting up numbers that TT couldn't at his absolute best. http://pfref.com/pi/share/blOtJ JG put up a stat line of 20-33 for 334yds 1TD/1INT throwing to: Marquise Goodwin Kyle Juszczyk Garrett Celek Trent Taylor George Kittle Aldrick Robinson and the game-breaker himself... Louis Murphy.

With Tyrod Taylor as the QB, there really isn't much of a difference. You're most likely going to lose either way. He was like 3-20 when down by even a single point in the 4th Quarter.