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3 hours ago, Bills92 said:
Loved when TO came here... But similar to when Lynch was the Legend of the Game, I struggle with honoring players from the drought years - let alone a 'Legend' who played one year for a 6-10 team. There are only a handful of legends from the drought years.. and they start and end with Fitzy, FJax, Eric Wood, and Kyle
You forgot Brian Moorman !
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28 minutes ago, Beast said:
Even more amusing that the "play action" that fools nobody, may be Josh Allen's hard count that also fools nobody.
And, no, I'm not bashing Allen. I am happy he is our QB. I just find his hard counts funny.
I disagree.
Allen's hard counts routinely fool his own O-linemen
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1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
14 of the 24 points were though of the offenses and ST own making.
Allen's first INT was returned to the Colts 43 yard line. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the DEF to force a punt there (or at least hold them to a FG).
The McKenzie fumble recovered at the 2 is a different story of course.
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8 minutes ago, zow2 said:
As i said in another thread. May be more appropriate here. No team that gets dominated like that in a big game, at home, will be a threat to win the Super bowl. That dream has died today. Buf might still be able to sneak in as a wild card but it’s hard to tell. If they lose to the Saints then no. If they beat the Saints then they Need to at least split with NE.
Too may other AFC teams have 6-7 wins already.
Superbowl winning teams can and do lose blowout losses at home. The SB champion Bucs lost 38-3 to the Saints at home in week 9 last year.
One god awful game from the Bills doesn't invalidate the rest of the season. We're still one of the most talented teams in the NFL and if we play to our potential we should beat any team.
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I'm actually a bit curious how the SEC allows this. What they are offering are not "shares" in any sense of the word.
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This is fascinating to me.
I thought Allen would've had significantly better stats in 2020 than in 2021.
With league average QB play last year we probably finish 8-8 or so.
With league average QB play in 2021 we'd probably be 5-3, if not 6-2 so far.
I guess that speaks more to the DEF than to Josh Allen, but it is interesting.
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19 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
You know I never said kick a 65 yd FG. I said don't take a sack and put yourself needing a 65 yarder. Or kick a 45 yarder instead of going for it on 4th and fumbling.
The fumble was on 3rd down. Not to mention it would've been a 55 yarder
3rd & 2 at JAX 37
(5:41 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Allen right end to JAX 38 for -1 yards (D.Smoot). FUMBLES (D.Smoot), RECOVERED by JAX-J.Allen at JAX 37.
You may be confusing it with this play where Ike had a false start:
4th & 2 at JAX 43
(10:04 - 4th) (Shotgun) PENALTY on BUF-I.Boettger, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at JAX 43 - No Play.
I doubt there's a single coach in the NFL that would have attempted a 61 yard FG instead of going for the 4th down there (and it's a moot point after the false start penalty).
I think the sack in question is this play:
3rd & 7 at JAX 39
(1:17 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Allen sacked at JAX 48 for -9 yards (D.Smoot).
That would've been a 57 yard FG attempt had we run the ball for no gain and with the way we were failing at running the ball (for the entire game and season) can you really fault the play call there?
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40 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
You can be a riverboat gambler when you have the upper hand. When you are getting pounded by their defense you take the points. This all is vaguely reminiscent of Super Bowl 25. The high-flying unstoppable Bills offense led by Jim Kelly. The DC Bill Belichick sold out against the pass. But did Kelly hand it off to Thurman Thomas to attack their two and three-man fronts? No. He had to answer the challenge in the air...and played right into the Giants hands.
I can agree that the Giants in XXV and the Jags yesterday both sold out to stop the pass. The gigantic difference is that Thurman was eating the Giants alive, whereas Singletary & Moss were utterly ineffective.
Thurman Thomas in XXV
15 carries 135 yards 1 TD
Moss & Singletary combined stats yesterday
9 carries 22 yards
"riverboat gambling" would be trying to run the ball and settling for 65+ yard FGs. It's not like we went out there and called some stupid trick play that generated a huge loss to knock us out of FG range. We ran routine plays that ultimately did not work. Complaining about it is 100% hindsight
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3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
The Bills have one of the most reliable kickers in the NFL right now. But we play the game like we don't want to use him.
We were in FG range several times yesterday but instead of settling for three, we decided to play right into the Jags gameplan.
Hubris kills, and the Bills sometimes believe their own hype a little too much. It's great to have a killer instinct but it's better to realize when things aren't working to just get some points.
Couldn't disagree more.
There was exactly one drive that ended in FG range with no points (Josh's first INT). Is your suggestion that McD should've known Josh was going to throw an INT there and we should've run the ball for no gain?
Or are you talking about the 4th and 2 from JAX 43 yard line? Every coach in the league is going to go for the 4th down instead of attempting a 60 yard FG. After the false start penalty it turns into a 65 yard FG vs a punt.
Final drive was 4th and 16 from the JAX 48. 65 yard FG vs a very long 4th down are both bad options, but I think going for it is the right choice.
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How about this gem towards the end of the first half right after the Jags fumble ?
1st & 10 at BUF 20
(1:24 - 2nd) (Shotgun) J.Allen up the middle to BUF 21 for 1 yard (J.Allen).
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Jags 10
Really don't see this one being close. Our DEF will eat Lawrence alive
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The only Steelers game I've seen this year was when we played them in week 1 and I thought Ingram was dominating that game. Surprised he only went for a 6th, but maybe that was his best game of the year ?
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Despite the stats I don't trust our DEF to play well against good offenses, or to step up and win a game in the clutch.
If a 1 score game is coming down to the final possession I would want to see Josh and the offense out there 10 out of 10 times instead of relying on the DEF for a stop.
The DEF is certainly good enough to win a SuperBowl, although not good enough to carry the team to a Superbowl (like the Ravens or Bears).
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1 hour ago, BearNorth said:
Looking at PFF Grades through week 8, Wyatt Teller is ranked 4th and Quinton Spain ranked 13th. Meanwhile we have Feliciano [hurt] at #50, Boettger at 59, and Cody at 72/74. Wonder how some of these decisions are made?
The decisions were made according to The Process™.
As much as we love Beane his O-line decisions have left a lot to be desired. He traded Teller (and a 7th) for a 5th and 6th. He released Spain 6 weeks into a 3 year deal and returned negative value with the dead cap hit.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/
We have one of the pricier O-lines in the league this season, and our O-line is one of the worst in the league. We have to be dead last in terms of money spent vs quality of play.
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3 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:
Once upon a time the Bills scored 3 TD’s in 77 seconds against a John Elway-led squad.
Sure, and there was the comeback game. But neither of those games required scoring 16 points with 1 minute left in the 4th Q with 0 timeouts.
It's pretty telling to me that the Dolphins didn't even try to score after we failed the 2 pt conversion.
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The TD was on a 3rd and 6 from the 7 yard line with over a minute left. I don't see how anyone could complain about that.
However, going for 2 was completely unnecessary. The Dolphins had no chance of winning. We can talk about hypotheticals and point out that teams have scored 2 TDs in <1 minute before, but how many times has a team overcome a 16 point deficit with 1 minute left in the 4th Quarter (and no timeouts)? Has it ever happened in NFL history? The Dolphins didn't even try to drive down the field to score after we failed the conversion.
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I think it's mostly confirmation bias.
If they see traits they like in a rookie, and the rookie works out, they will be able to say "See, I always knew that guy would work out".
If the same player doesn't work out they can blame it on reasons X,Y, and Z instead of admitting their 1st impression was wrong.
Teams invest millions of dollars and untold hours investigating who to draft in the 1st round, yet there are constantly 1st round busts (and late round success stories). If it was that easy to decide if a player was going to make it or not that wouldn't happen as often as it does.
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Singletary in the bottom 5 is a head scratcher for me.
He finished with 5 carries for 27 yards and 5 catches (on 5 targets) for 16 yards. I distinctly remember him breaking a few tackles and creating more yards than what was blocked for him on some of those carries.
I'm not saying he deserved an A+ or anything, but I thought he did fine with his limited touches.
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14 hours ago, FireChans said:
Beane is yet to draft a superstar besides his QB. But that's a position that's worth more than the rest put together, so whatever.
I'd argue that Wyatt Teller is a superstar and a fantastic pick. 2nd team all-pro player with a 5th round pick is genius.
Of course we didn't give him time to develop and traded him for next to nothing, but that doesn't change the fact it was a killer draft pick.
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2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said:
Was great in college, but played against crap competition in a crap conference.
Good lesson for McBean. Don't draft star DTs from crap conferences.
Yea, draft star DTs from Alabama. Like Marcell Dareus
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2 hours ago, BTB said:
The OL interior is subpar…especially Feliciano. Bringing back the same starting 5 from last years mediocre line was a BIG mistake by Beane.
We have one of the more expensive O-lines in the league
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/
That unit is easily the biggest disappointment of the season for the Bills. We can't even blame it on injuries.
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41 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said:
What I don't understand is the use of Moss over Motor.
In the five games they both played Motor has been the overall more effective only to typically get fewer carries and snaps.
Against Miami Moss had 8 carries and averaged 3.3 ypc - Motor 11 carries and averaged 6.3 ypc
WFT - Moss 13 with a 4.6 ypc average - Motor 11 with a 2.9 ypc avg
Houston - Moss 14 with a 4.4 avg - Motor 14 with a 5.6 avg
KC - Moss 11 for an avg of 3.4 ypc - Motor 6 for an avg of 4.2
Titans - Moss 8 with a 3 ypc avg - Motor 5 totes and a 5.4 avg
Over those 5 games thats Moss with 54 carries and an average of 3.9 while motor has 49 and averages 4.4 ypc
Snap Counts over those 5 games? Moss 18, 44, 46, 42 and 42 for a total of 192 - Motor 43, 34, 32, 19 and 35 for a total of 163
Shouldn't those snap counts be at least reveresed? I don't understand what happened to "going with the hot hand" as the coaches stated they would.
A couple side notes:
Moss has exactly one carry over 10 yards
Motor has caught 13 of his 18 targets - 72.2%
Moss has caught 10 of his 14 targets - 71.4%
They did the opposite of "going with the hot hand". Singletary had a few nice runs early where he broke some tackles and gained a lot of extra yards. He was rewarded with 2 touches in the 2nd half.
Moss had a fumble (out of bounds). Not going to blame Moss for the INT, but with a better reaction he could've at least tried to break up the catch.
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23 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:
I’m not understanding the 42% percent rate. Can you walk me through how you got that number? It seems before the coin flip, the chances should be 50/50 for either team.
Don't know how the 42% number was reached.
Thinking out loud - we could miss the FG attempt. If we make the FG the Titans would've had ~20 seconds and timeouts to try and win the game in regulation. Neither option would be very likely, but should push the odds slightly in their favor instead of purely 50/50 OT coin flip.
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Just now, MJS said:
I don't think half the board is blaming Allen. Most are blaming the defense.
Agreed. I think there's a vocal minority upset with Allen, but they are idiots.
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Picking up Edmunds Option a Rare Beane Mistake
in The Stadium Wall
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One of these guys is a depth LB getting paid league minimum.
The other is a team "leader" that is going to be paid 12+million next season.
It seemed like every big running play featured Edmunds hitting the wrong gap, or getting dominated by a 1 on 1 block