Wily Dog
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Well I sure made the Peterman haters show their colors this past week or so. So...... on to the season with Josh and Nate . Go Bills !!!
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2 hours ago, Warcodered said:
I would like to think that another Quarterback would of come to the conclusion to take a sack before getting 5 interceptions.
You just would have criticized him for taking the sack.
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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I’ve decided. If you throw 5 INTs in a half it counts. If you throw 5 TDs in a half it counts. Everything that actually happens counts. That’s why we keep stats and records.
I would not like you to be on a jury for me with that outlook.
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1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:
I've said, much earlier in this thread, that the five picks Peterman threw only told part of the story. In the first half of that game, confusion reigned. When Tyrod came out in the second half, the entire offense (not just the line) looked like a different team. You say that has nothing to do with Peterman's leadership abilities. You say that it doesn't matter who the QB was-- that any other QB (other than Tyrod Taylor), under the same circumstances, would have failed just as spectacularly.
I call BS.
You can blame the O-line.
You can blame McD for putting him out there before he was ready.
You can blame Tyrod for casting a spell, and charming the professionalism out of his teammates.
You can blame Peterman for not having the ability to lead, or inspire his teammates.
YOU DECIDE
Facts matter.
i was trying to convince you that it did not matter who the quarterback was for leadership because it was NOT a thing they could have done , under the same circumstances . i apparently failed trying to explain it to you. Go off on another tirade if you want , i'm done answering your posts.
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2 hours ago, Warcodered said:
So now your saying the O-Line killed Peterman's daughter?
if that's is all you got out of it yes i suppose
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2 minutes ago, prissythecat said:
So basically NFL should put an asterisk on Peterman's record setting first half against the Chargers. Think about how absurd that notion is
I did not say that, in fact I did not say anything , except , you decide.
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There is a book by John Grisham called" A Time To Kill " which may help you people who just remain on facts for your judgements in life. A man killed two other men and was arrested for murder.
FACT: He shot the two men and didn't deny it.
Fact: Peterman threw five interceptions against the Chargers
WHY>: The two men had brutalized his nine year old daughter before Raping and killing her. The fatherr , being enraged shot a killed the two men.
WHY: The fullback did not catch a short pass over the middle and the ball ricochet into an interception.. Two instances an offensive lineman not blocking a defensive end , resulting in two interceptions.
JUDGEMENT:: The father was acquitted by the jury because of the circumstances of the crime.
JUDGEMENT: YOU DECIDE.
It isn't always about the Facts.
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14 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:
This is not a conversation about Peterman at this point, but rather a preposterous premise about our O-line having such a crush on Tyrod Taylor that they're willing to throw a game, regardless of who is under center. (Good God! My fingers feel stupider for having just typed that!!!)
But, there is definitely an element of derailment here...
Whether or not the Oline was purposeful or not had no bearing on Peterman's leadership qualities.
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14 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:
Well, let's break it down:
Your premise is:
1) The O-line loves, and respects Tyrod Taylor, and believe that he should start vs. the Chargers.
2) McDermott benches TT in favor of Peterman.
3) The O-line is angered by this decision, and decides to not offer Peterman the protection that their jobs require. (Hey, they don't care WHO starts. It could be JOE BLOW for all they care! As long as it's not Taylor, they're not going to do their jobs!)
4) The game starts, and to plan, they ignore Peterman's leadership, and go ahead and let Joey Bosa, and the Chargers' defense destroy Peterman's first NFL start.
And, you don't think this reflects poorly on Peterman's leadership in any way? For real???
Talk about embarrassing! Do you not see how astonishingly stupid this narrative is???
(Jesus, am I a fish on a hook, or what?)
if you weren't so intent on derailing peterman you possibly jump a cog in your brain and understand . just pretend that peterman wasn't even there and MAYBE ,MAYBE
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4 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:
Joe Blow is a true leader of men. Our offensive line would NEVER have done that to Joe Blow!
You still don't get it. it is embarrassing
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1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:
No, not really...
This is what I meant when I said you were painting yourself into a corner with your narrative.
So, I'll just step all over your freshly painted floor:
If Nathan Paterman, a quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, is so disregarded by his own offensive line that they would intentionally (or even unintentionally, for that matter) not protect him against the likes of Joey Bosa, during an NFL game in which the Bills were still in playoff contention, because they were unhappy with LITERALLY ANY DECISION THE COACHING STAFF MIGHT MAKE, then that very fact represents a SERIOUS FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP on the part of NATHAN PETERMAN.
Is this really the narrative you want to pursue???
I really do not know how to explain it to you because whether or not it was peterman there or joe blow he would have had no chance for leadership in the circumstances. he or joe blow were immaterial . if you can not understand that , i can't explain it to you.
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1 minute ago, Rocky Landing said:
This is a bizarre statement. Really, you're just deflecting because you don't want to answer the question. So, I'll ask it again: If you think the O-line gave up on Peterman (regardless of when "the die was cast") is that not a failure of leadership?
What is going to lead if the players are not rebelling against him but the decision to start him. That clear enough
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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Have you heard of Sean McDermott? Do you even remotely think that his teams have that kind of discord? That plain answer is a resounding no. You should stop this foolishness.
I would hope he would have gotten rid of those responsible.
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1 minute ago, Rocky Landing said:
That is non- sensical because the die would have been cast before he was even on the field.
6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:It doesn't fit the facts and like I said before McDermott would stand for it and Beane would have cut anyone who pulled crap like that. Your conspiracy story is nonsensical in many ways.
Did you ever hear of the bickering Bills ??
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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
You must have missed the TNF game at the NYJ when the OL was atrocious. There was no conspiracy against Peterman no matter how much you try to make it so.
I'm sorry it doesn't fit your agenda.
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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
How long have you been watching Jordan Mills play RT for the Bills? Your premise is not rooted in reality.
Long enough to know he is not an all pro but repots were that he had a pretty good tear last year. It would not have to be only him.
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12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Like stating that the Bills' OL intentionally sabotaged Peterman against the Chargers in LA last season?
You may say it is untrue but some reports doubted that and Bosa said that they didn't even attempt to block him. You can say that a person will not jeopardize his job by doing this but unity breeds strange bedfellows. I will remind you of fragging incidents in wartime where the participants were betting their life on the results.
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4 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:
With that attitude, especially with respected posters around here, your time around here may be mighty short. I suggest an attitude adjustment sooner rather than later.
Nobody will get upset at you if you state an opinion respectfully and back it up with facts or logic. So far, you have brought neither to the table.
You mean that you have to Agree with CB , Kirby and RDB, not by a damn site .I state my opinions only to have them dismissed by Kirby's facts which do not amount to anything in reality of known facts. If this is the what TBD has become , and I doubt it, you have others who are reasonable , such as John C. who has been on the end of the know it all , know it alls. I guess they believe if you state something is true often enough it will be true.
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31 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:
So, you're saying that Peterman can't lead his team? I wonder why the front line had so much distaste for him that they were willing to risk their careers and not do their job?
IT wasn't Peterman they are after and i would not expect you figure it out , go back to your knitting.
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59 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
What a bunch of nonsense excuse making that is nothing but a fairy tale.
You have spoken from fairyland. i will certainly take what you say as the truth.
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13 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
So just to be clear the TD to INT ratio doesn’t count and the 5 INTs in 14 attempts don’t count? I can prove to you that both of those are facts. I’m not the one trying to distort the truth here. Facts are facts and we can’t just pretend something different to push our agenda forward. I know that’s popular these days but it doesn’t fly here. It never has.
I asked for honesty , apparently you are not capable of it . I told you that 5 of 14 was what the record states but we all know honestly that Peterman didn't stand a chance with a disgruntled line in front of him . Go ahead with B. S. in dreamland.
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4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I thought Peterman sucked before he played. I thought Tyrod was solid. I think Peterman sucks now. I think Tyrod is solid. So far, both of those are true statements based on their resumes. Many of us believed Peterman starting was a mistake before the game. He threw 5 INTs in 14 attempts. We were right. He didn’t deserve the job that he was given. If Tyrod retired tomorrow he would be viewed as a solid QB. He’d retire with a winning record and a high TD:INT ratio. If Peterman were out of the league tomorrow he would be viewed as trash. Anyone arguing otherwise is ignoring the truth.
With that being said the Bills handled things well this offseason. They went after a potential franchise QB and cleared his path. Peterman has improved and McCarron has been a decent number 2 in his career. They have handled it well. Allen is the guy and Peterman or McCarron can be #2 QBs.
The reason that Tyrod had a high TD to INT ratio was because he did not throw the ball unless the WR was wide open and could not lead a WR. That is exactly why he was traded to Cleveland. The 5 int's in 14 attempts you and i know that is do much B S. if you will honestly admit t it. I realize that the QB is charged with all interceptions but 2 out 14 is what it should have been.
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4 hours ago, MDH said:
It’s the dumbest thread in history yet McDermott hasn’t counted Peterman out of the competition and from the looks of things Peterman is one bad outing from Allen this week of getting that week 1 start. Allen performs well this week and he likely starts. He sh*ts the bed and, like it or not, it’s probably Peterman.
Not sure why so many Bills fans enjoy ripping one of their own players. It’s kinda crazy how fans sh*t on the guy no matter what he does. I hope Allen wins the job too but damn, all the hate for Peterman on this board is just nuts.
I have said it before and I will say it again , Peyrtman's trouble was becausee he was inserted in the lineup for Taylor. All of the Taylor fans were instantly Peterman haters and remain that today. A few of them profess to be "super scouts " who spout their vitriol about Peterman being trash, and shouldn't be allowed on a football field. A few fit both categories. The rest fit the following descriptions , follow the leader , ill informed. or maybe they did not pay attention in school. I like Peternan's guts in coming back from the game last year and strengthening his arm. IMO he has proven to the coaches that he is our second quarterback. I am a Josh Allen fan.
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4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Yeah, there were people here that actually believed that McCarron was an upgrade from Tyrod. The league spoke pretty loudly on their thoughts about McCarron when he signed that tiny contract. Guys like Keenum, Bridgewater & McCown were paid way more to essentially do the same thing. There’s a decent chance that McCarron ends up getting traded to Seattle IMO.
I said that a week ago but my destination for him was K. C .
Why the hell didn't we address the OLINE?
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what a bunch of Chicken Littles !!!