[IF the Bills did trade down, Who would you like?]

10 minutes ago, T master said:

 

A second & a third i think Beane would take it but the last time we traded down to 27 was the year the Chief's traded with us & they got Mahomes we got Tre but he don't score many points .

 

If Robinson is there at 27 he is just 1 more weapon for teams to worry about & for those that don't believe a running back is worth the pick i would argue that if the Jets would have had Breece Hall last year the Bills wouldn't have won that second game because there are some running backs that are still worth the roster spot .

 

Robinson is suppose to be a "generational talent" not seen since Saquan came out so if you can get a talent like that on a cheap contract for 4 to 5 years than get him, win a Super Bowl & let him go at the end of the cheap contract .

I don’t think I could pass on Bijan at 27 either, I think he’s probably the best case scenario for Buffalo, but if he’s gone and we trade down and ended up with Zach Charbonnet and a nasty lineman like Steve Avila or Dawand Jones, I don’t think I could complain either.

[The Titans Are Shopping Henry]

5 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

He’s basically a one year rental at 16 million if I read correctly. 
Oliver and a 6th for Henry 🤷 

I could live with that.

[Diggs unfollows Buffalo, follows Cowgirls 🤷‍♂️]

1 hour ago, Gary Marangi said:

F him don't care 

Yup. Give me a 1st for him and sayonara. Plenty of good WRs in this draft. Open up some cap space at the same time.

[IF the Bills did trade down, Who would you like?]

3 minutes ago, hjnick said:

 

Well, the draft pick value chart says to get a roughly equal value would be with Atlanta for #44 and 75.  So anything above #44 that for a 2nd and 3rd swap, Buffalo would be making out well with that trade.  

 

Around that area, best Guard, WR, LB or Safety.  I think there is alot of good potential WRs and Oline in this draft.  Let's get 2.  Those 2 positions I wouldn't mind doubling up on.

Somebody mentioned Steve Avila and I think if Buffalo could get him in a trade down you could do no wrong. Maybe slot him in at RG and eventually have him take over at C, that would be nice. I suppose I wouldn’t mind Zach Charbonnett also, but I would prefer Avila or Dawand Jones.

[IF the Bills did trade down, Who would you like?]

16 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Beane has to do right by Allen this off-season and put premium assets into the offense. Plug defensive holes in FA and mid to late round picks. He’s created this situation and now it’s time to fix it. 

Will Beane be active at the start of FA? Or will he wait 3-4 weeks for leftovers?

[IF the Bills did trade down, Who would you like?]

3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

??? Take “where”? If Chicago gave us their 2nd round pick vs KC giving us their 2nd rounder. 

I don’t know, let’s split the baby down the middle and let’s say it’s a mid 2nd and a mid 3rd round pick and Buffalo still has their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th round picks on top of it.

I’m sorry that I was a bit too vague in the OP, I didn’t want to superimpose my thoughts on everyone else, I genuinely wanted to hear everyone else’s opinion on who they would take.

We have a thread on Buffalo staying put at 27 and Buffalo drafting a defensive player at 27 and Buffalo drafting an offensive player at 27, I thought we needed a Trade Down Thread as well.

[IF the Bills did trade down, Who would you like?]

I know everybody loves Bijan Robinson, but what if he was gone and there were no good OL or WRs available and somebody offered Buffalo a 2nd + a 3rd for pick #27, who would you take? 

[Is there any defensive player you'd be happy with at pick 27?]

38 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

There’s no defensive player I want at 27, I’ll puke if we take one I think. I don’t need some first round pick wasted on a scheme that’s lazy and doesn’t encourage play making. 
 

We badly need weapons and most importantly protection for josh. Which of course means we will waste the pick on a safety. 

There’s no better way to put it.

[Is there any defensive player you'd be happy with at pick 27?]

No. Trade down at that point.

[Who would be your free agency targets?]

Random names in no particular order:

 

Taylor Lewan, LT (Put him at RT?)

 

Isaac Seumalo, RG (Our big FA signing?)

 

Mike Gesicki, TE (Big target for Josh with upside?)

 

Rashaan Evans, LB (Cheap LB with upside on the sly?)

 

Leighton Vander Esch, LB (Another cheap LB, smart and instinctive- don’t give me the “he don’t fit our scheme” BS)

 

[Report: Dolphins exploring “moving on” from Tua]

[Bills re-sign Ike Boettger]

6 hours ago, RG Murdock said:

If your going to post here you better understand very obvious sarcasm..... Geez.. Where were you during my real estate sales days?   

What are you in third grade? Sarcasm is the lowest form of comedy.

[McDermott wants a ‘nastier edge’ to his Defense post Frazier]

I would love to see more disguised blitzes combined with fake blitzes and dropping extra players into coverage. Anything to break up the boring monotony that we’ve seen over the last 3-4 years. We have two great corners in TreDavious and Kaiir, we can afford to play man and to mix things up every here and there.

[No trade Mock Drafts]

On 3/1/2023 at 9:22 AM, Bigvinny said:

 

27: R1 P27 OT Paris Johnson Jr. - Ohio State

59: R2 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

91: R3 P28 WR A.T. Perry - Wake Forest

130: R4 P28 RB Tank Bigsby - Auburn

139: R5 P3 EDGE Dylan Horton - TCU

164: R5 P28 LB Ventrell Miller - Florida

There’s no way on God’s green earth that Paris Johnson will be available at 27, there’s no way. I am a firm believer in drafting the best WR available at 27 because I think there will be a few but Paris Johnson is a top 10 LT and a franchise LT at that.

[Bills re-sign Ike Boettger]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

That’s good.  Now we’re set at OG!

Nobody’s saying that, he’s good depth though, which is great because football is a violent sport, y’know?

[Is Edmunds decision the most difficult Beane has ever faced?]

Don’t count out Terrel Bernard. Yes, he’s undersized, but yes he’s had a full year to pack on some muscle, from what I’ve seen he’s a very instinctive and intuitive LB, so who knows? He may be a quality starter for us next year.

 

Also, Milano is obviously a high quality starter as well. So I think if Buffalo drafted somebody in the 3rd-4th round I’d feel really good about this group. DeMarvion Overshown out of Texas is a name I’d throw out there, he could probably be had in RD3. Nice size, strong, instinctive, playmaker.

[Has Sean McDermott's Bills met your personal expectations over the last four season?]

He’s a great coach but I think he needs to be more proactive when it comes to coaching, staff and personnel changes. Frazier should have been fired a year ago. Yeah, it sucks, I know he’s your friend but you owe it to the city and to your players to make such changes so we can hopefully win at least one Lombardi in Josh’s prime.

 

I will also say this, I am very cautious about Dorsey as our OC for two reasons: 1.) He never quite lives up to what we had with Daboll or 2.) He does live up to what Daboll did here and he’s gone next offseason regardless. The lack of stability on offense has me feeling icky about the future there long term. McD needs to find some offensive minded guru that failed as a HC so we are no longer in limbo at OC. Like a Bill O’Brien type so McD has his guys in place long term.

 

With that said, McD has my blessing for 2023 but this could be his last season here at the same time.

[Best possible picks at 27?]

There has to be a good WR available at 27, jus’ sayin’.

[Leslie Frazier "taking a year off from coaching" per Bills PR]

33 minutes ago, billsintaiwan said:

I like it when people use the word "alpha". It's like seeing a dunce cap in print.

Yikes. The word alpha is used by men who are suffering from toxic masculinity and in return are not much of an “alpha” themselves. I prefer the term leader. Leaders are found everywhere and they know when to follow too. Some people just have that type of presence that just pulls you in and you gravitate towards them.

 

Is McD a leader? I would say so yes, but I think if I had one word to describe him with it would be authentic. 

[Stadium Renderings Part 2]

1 hour ago, Bob Jones said:

You do realize that the Pegulas will likely end up only paying for about 10-15% of the cost, right? Also, they are so rich that they could have foot the bill for a dome and it would be like any of us spending $100 on a fancy meal. But they're hoarding their billions. 🙄

Show some gratitude. If it weren’t for Kim and Terry we would be the LA Bills.

[Who Will Be Next Year's Scapegoat?]

52 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Last year the Special Teams Coordinator was the scapegoat. 

 

This year it was the Defensive Coordinator. 

 

Who will be McDermott's scapegoat next year? On to Offensive Coordinator? He already did that previously when he fired Dennison, can always go back there again and fire Dorsey I guess...

 

... walls are closing in ...

I’m not sure if there will be a next year for McDermott nor Beane unless this team seriously performs.

[Stadium Renderings Part 2]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

 

Based on the general tone of this thread, I can’t tell if this is sincere or sarcasm. Doesn’t matter, great post 😄

I am very sincere. The fact that we have an owner who is building us a brand new stadium to the tune of $1.4B should make all of us happy. Why is this thread full of admonishments and lament? I’m almost embarrassed to be a Bills after reading through some of this drivel, we should all be posting gratitude statements.

[Leslie Frazier "taking a year off from coaching" per Bills PR]

Would Mike Pettine come back to Buffalo as our DC? I would love to see a fusion between the two schemes.

[Stadium Renderings Part 2]

This brings tears of joy to my heart. I’m so glad that we have an owner who is not only committed to winning, but is committed to Buffalo. God bless the entire Pegula family.

[Leslie Frazier "taking a year off from coaching" per Bills PR]

1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Yep.  And anyone who believes this was anything other than McBeane doing Frazier a favor holding onto him until all the head coaching jobs were filled… I gotta bridge to sell you.  McDermott knows this year is it.  Maybe he’ll give Holcomb or the young guy Babich the DC title, but McDermott will be way more hands on.  Beane made that clear in his presser.  

As he should be. This is a make or break year for McD. He oughta leave nothing on the table. He’s viewed as a defensive guru slash aficionado, well let’s see it. Whomever we hire as DC should be our DC just in title. Let’s see what you got Coach McD.