Maine-iac

The part that I'd emphasize also is that there's a good chance the Raiders don't score enough to beat the Chiefs if Mahommes doesn't throw them the ball twice.

Don't give them free points and you don't have to think at all.

So we are talking about things we could have done that would have kept them from scoring a field goal ................ because I can think of a couple.

I'm trying to think if anything else might have helped? Like if the other teams offense got the ball already in scoring position. How would that happen?

Pats and Broncos suck on offense ............. it's almost like something was helping them score points.

If you watched the game then poor pass defense or not we had one good drive the whole first half and 6 of the 8 plays were rushing plays. We had one other TD in the first half and that was a one play broken scramble play drive. We put together another drive for a TD in the second half and 6 out the 10 plays on that drive were runs. I don't think it is as simple as saying statistically they are good or bad at something and therefore we will just do that and it will just work. Statistically we played a number of teams that should have been short work and we either had to pull it out in the 4th quarter or lost. Our pass protection wasn't great and Josh was back to holding the ball and waiting on guys to come open deeper and getting pressured a lot. Sometimes guys open up and TD(to Davis) and sometimes a guy comes open and between the pressure and the difficulty of the throw you just turn it over (Diggs).

Just looking at the correlation for all the people who want to throw it all the time we are 2 and 5 when Allen throws it 38 times or more and 8 and 1 when he throws it less than 38 times. If you are going to throw it 40 or 50 times your short passing game better be an extension of your running game and our isn't. I've seen our passing game do it but even when it's there I don't trust Josh to take it enough to kill defenses with it. Inevitably he'll run away from someone and hit a long TD that no one else could throw but as exciting as it is I'm not sure it's a game plan. If we punished defenses with catch and run passes to Kincaid, Cook, and Shakir then Davis and Diggs wouldn't be fighting shell coverages every play.

They constantly rush Miller off the left end. The few times they've moved him to the right side he looks much more effective. Didn't see him rush off the right side once yesterday.

This It's probably the reason we won. We throw another 20 times instead of running and I'm guessing we have a lot more 3rd and longs and probably a couple more turnovers. The run game wasn't as explosive as the Cowboys game but we were grinding just fine.

Almost anyone can see that Allen turns the ball over too much. Allen has a turnover in almost every single game. His big play ability trumps some of it but if Allen would just learn to take the easy stuff a little more often and stop throwing 15 yards down field into coverage we probably aren't fighting 3 and 8 teams for wins in the 4th quarter as often.

Not at the game but everything you are saying here checks out after watching the game on TV. Thing is if your QB is banged up you'd like to lean on the running game and then your RB fumbles. Overall the defense played well enough, especially given the positions they were put in. What I wouldn't give for it to appear that Allen just naturally understood getting the ball out quicker. He seems back to running around passing up short easy passes for chances at bombs that sometimes work but frequently don't. I mean every pass play could be a 50 yard TD if you run scramble drill for 6 or 7 seconds but it's not a sustainable offense. Hit your guy (TE, RB, Slot WR) at 3 or 4 yards and let him run for a couple more and keep the chains moving. It seems like the less seriously we take the defense the less likely Josh is to stay on program and I'm starting to think it's part of why we choke against lesser teams. Allen has a lot of Pickle Rick in him and seems to have a hard time taking the boring throws that move the sticks. Not saying he can't do it, just that he fights it in games where it seems like the win should come easier.

Passing game was fine. Josh hit one TD and missed another otherwise that interception would have been another 30 plus yards and a TD. Diggs would have ended up with decent numbers and Josh would have had almost 300 yards passing. We need less mistakes more than we need more passing.

Want to see a kicker have his best game ................. play him against us. Granted if he misses we'll find a way to get him another kick.

No pass rush, no coverage, and we can't tackle guys in front of us either.

Bill's 2023 ................ writing the book on how to play down to bad teams.

Said it before if we don't throw another pass our chances of winning this game probably increase 20 percent. Just run the ball, eat the clock, and if you do have to punt keep them on their end of the field. Allen can't (or won't) get the ball out and negative plays are killing us. Run the ball and get it to 3rd and short. Then let Allen run or pass.

I lost count was that 3 penalties in 4 plays and a burnt timeout?

Thank god we used that timeout to get the punt right.

Now we are burning TO's in a close game in the 4th qtr.

Again I've seen those "holds" all game long from the Chargers and yet we are the only ones getting those calls.

Without the turnovers this is not even a game.

To Von's credit he has looked much better rushing from the right but they keep rushing him from the left.

Kind of sad to say but Von looks like Edmunds used to rushing the passer right now.

Congrats to Cook our first 1,000 yard rusher in a few years.

eating my words ...................... I'm ok with that.