Maine-iac

Digging around because there's so much talk about separation. A lot of decent receivers are on the far low end of the separation statistic. Hopkins, Higgins, London, Cooper, Pickens, Evans, and Ridley (just to name a few) were all on the very low end, statistically, of the charts. I think it's of note that both Kincaid and Shakir had separation over 3.5 and catch % of about 80. I'm not sure what to make of it but it leaves me feeling like separation as a statistic is not the be all end all of stats. More separation does tend to help catch percentage but there are a lot of receivers who are very productive regardless. After reading Tee Higgins draft profile the similarities are striking. Higgins had more production in college but physically they are similar. So from now until he gets on the field I'm going to tell myself Coleman might be the next Tee Higgins even if it's yet to be seen. Separation Stats Tee Higgins scouting similarities

Watched the cover1 video on MVS. I don't see the guy running past anyone. People repeatedly saying "vertical speed" but I don't see him run past anyone. He seems to do Gabe Davis things with maybe an extra step. Am I missing something?

If you count the 1st we traded for Diggs ........ yes. Unless I missed something. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/draft.htm

It's tied 7 for 7 (unless I'm counting wrong) since Allen's draft.

Who do you think has a better year this year, Chase Claypool or OBJ? I actually don't have an answer and I'd be guessing at one anyways but it makes you think. So much potential but a head case vs possibly old and washed up.

yes and yes

If we spent all those picks on offense and they didn't work out would you be asking if we keep using picks on offense? You do it until it works.

I drive to Gillette (3 hours) every year. Last year was pretty disappointing. Flew to Buffalo 2 seasons ago. All road trips for me. True story they will pay you 50 bucks to park in the delayed exit lot at Gillette.

1st player off the board the last two years was a TE and WR no?

We held the ball for 37 minutes and almost beat the SB champs with Klein as our starting MLB. The offense was fine without a WR1. I'm not saying we don't need guys to make plays but there's a long history of teams winning championships without Megatron playing WR for them.

Tell me exactly what having a WR1 means and then tell me how it helped us in the playoffs so that I know the difference between last year when we had one and now that we don't. What is it that we will miss?

We found Diggs and Davis replacements last year. We just phased out being an outside receiver focused offense. We got more production out of our TE's and RB's and slot WR than any other time since Beasley left. Running game was a force also. Most people probably can't even name the guys who started at outside WR for the Pats on any of the SB teams. Same with the Eagles that beat the Pats and give it a year or two no one will know who started at outside WR for the Chiefs the last two years either.

Both Diggs and Gabe had a good game against Miami before the Bengals debacle.

Percy Harvin ruined me on speedy, veteran WR's, who have potential. I hope you are right.

I didn't find the choice perplexing at all. The 1st read was a TD and it was there. Blocking didn't hold up. No denying Diggs was open hot but the play was drawn up to score and the throw was there.

Didn't say it was a given but I don't think it's above reasonable expectations to think he could produce similarly but over 17 games. I dare say it's projecting in a vacuum to say he couldn't do it.

Considering "last years WR 3" was our best receiver over the last 10 games I'd say we're half way there.

I absolutely agree but when you don't have anyone who's good at slamming up in there for 3 yards and you drop to 5 and 5 in the middle of the season the gloves come off. Pretty sure neither Dorsey or Brady were drawing up game plans where Josh was running 3rd and short 10 plus times but you have to do what you have to do. What I'm getting at is the team saying they don't want Allen running is different than having a big back and actually being able to do something other than run Allen. I haven't seen them run short yardage well with anyone other than Allen. Singletary on 3rd down against Miami running out the clock is etched in my memory and that's about it. Would love to see it happen.

I don't know Davis well enough. In short yardage Allen might be one of the best. That said there is a certain amount of abuse he takes doing it. If Davis is that good at short yardage he'd certainly be able to carve out a role. Pretty sure that's what Murray and Harris were supposed to do last season.

I might be wrong but he got benched for not coming up and tackling in the Giants game. He looked like a more motivated run stopper when he got back in there vs the Steelers. He was taking his lumps covering Ridley. Still plenty of potential there. He seems to come up with splash plays with some frequency.

Stalky is great but 215 doesn't move guys on the goal line like 230 does. Singletary ran over people very well for his size and even scored a few TD's on the goal line when they gave him a chance. That said there's a reason that Josh runs so much in short yardage and that's because 240 pounds moves guys.

Already addressed that. I agree with you. As far as playing QB at a high level the Chiefs game might have been one of his best at taking the profit and keeping the offense on the field.

Unlike Edwards running the no huddle we've seen Brady's offense succeed and do it for the most part without much contribution from Diggs. So the hope that someone can replace that "production" is at least somewhat warranted. Leading up to the Broncos loss Allen had rushed 7, 7, and 8 times in the previous 3 games. We had already started selling out to win games and the pressure was already on for Allen to run before Brady took over. This was happening with Diggs on the roster. The difference maker we lack is a short yardage back. A lot of Allen's runs he's virtually untouched or sneaks out of the pocket and only faces a defender or two down the field. The repeated use in short yardage where he's taking big hits both on 3rd and 4th downs but also goal line is something I'd like to see get taken over by someone else.

Not Shakir related but looking at the roster just realized that Claypool is huge. He is literally as big as Kincaid. We have a lot of 6' 4" WR's but 238 lbs is a big guy on the outside.

As good a group of pass catchers as we had this January (maybe better) and we were a few defensive injuries and a struggling kicker away from beating the Chiefs. A team that speads the ball around is harder to stop. I'm with you on protecting Allen a little bit. I would like to see a decent short yardage back (someone over 220lbs) with some vision to make goal line less about Josh smashing it in.