Maine-iac

We were scoring more points with Lynn and Roman just over a season ago. All either Gailey, Roman, or Lynn's teams needed was a defense that could hold teams below 22 ppg. The one thing also to remember is how many games Fitz killed us with a pick in the 4th qtr. As much as everyone lauds the passing game I'd love nothing more than to see Daboll come out and run it down peoples throats like were doing just a couple years ago.

5-11 Same gripe the last couple of years. No pass catching talent. Now we also have OL issues. Last year we were unsure about Mills and had 3 border line pro bowlers or alternates. Now we have Dawkins and 4 scrubs. Groy could be good if he returned to form from the year he replaced Woods due to injury. Don't know who they'll blame now, I suppose the QB again, but the fact is no matter the QB, the talent on offense has declined for 3 straight years and is now pretty bad.

I thought Milano played very well last year. I care about as much about Milano looking off in the preseason as I do about Peterman looking "good" in the preseason. When the season starts is when it matters. Hopefully both look like starters on an NFL team.

I think it goes with out saying they both have to learn decision making. They can both throw but I have serious doubts about the team around any QB in Buffalo. If the O-line can't pass protect and the first time KB comes up lame we have 0 legitimate receivers it's going to be very hard for any QB to learn anything getting pummeled and watching the ball drop off his receivers hands. Nothing I would love more than Zay to develop and Groy and Miller to prove better than expected but even then the talent on offense is so thin we are always one or two injuries away from toothless. I actually think more about the Rosen comparison because ultimately I feel that is where we should have went and still had the extra pick to work on the O-line. I have no problem with Allen. I just question whether this team will be able to develop him.

We? You and the turd in your pocket?

I'm sorry but if we are in the second season of this build and spent all that draft capital on a QB, saying that Peterman is the best QB on this roster is an extremely sad indictment on this franchise. To make matters worse the O-line is worse than last year and it wasn't great in pass protection last year. I can't think of one move they've made to make the offense better than, or even as good as for that matter, before McDemott got here. When we are scoring over 23ppg game again somebody wake me up.

Peterman's quick release will get you 20 picks by the end of the season. He's the best passer at throwing on time and at a WR but he's going to throw it whether he should or not. McCarron will most likely be the most similiar to Taylor which believe it or not is everyones best chance of winning (at the moment) and Allen seems to have a lot of talent but the question is still there about being up to NFL speed and do they want to throw him out there. Peterman is simply all or nothing and he may have a few flashes but he's no Vinny Testaverde ............. or is he :)?

Nice post Shaw. I'm not there yet but I feel it. Allen has shown some things. The new offense has shown some things. I already believed McDermott could put a defense together but post Dareous I want to see how the run D holds up. All that said, as skeptical as I've been, I could see things coming together. Like I said I'm not all the way there yet but maybe, just maybe we can put it together. It's possibly the Charlie Brown syndrome that these same Bills have given us for so many years. If I had a dollar for ever year we've finished the first 5 or 6 games looking like this year was the year only to fall flat. Still I'd settle for that excitement and the hope that we don't. Just need to see some regular season games and signs that when things count we can do this.

Just my two cents but I'd take Willis, Lewis, or Urlacher over Derrick Thomas or Derrick Brooks on any day that ends in Y. I'm not trying to argue Darryl Talley onto that list but I think he was a very good LB and in many ways as valuable as Bennet ever was. PS with the love for pass rushers where is Kevin Greene?

I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think McDermott can turn the offense around and Daboll's list of accomplishments was not enough to sell me on him either. On paper he actually looks worse than Dennison if that's possible. Now we have a big armed project that we've wagered a 1st and 2 2nd round picks on and will have to push into the starting lineup by at least next year. Defense or no defense if Daboll doesn't get it together and manage to bring this QB along it will be yet another pass in the repeated cycle from bad defense to bad offense and around again.

They scored 399 points. There's only 5 teams in Bill's history that scored more. They scored more than every team Kelly led except 3. Coaches will make or break a team. Clearly McDemott can put together a defense but with his choice of Dennison at OC the first time and the horrible management of the offense throughout the year I have little faith that he can get that side of the ball straight so he need an offensive guru who can put all that together for him. In my mind Allen, McCarron or whoever they throw out there it's all riding on Daboll. For the record I don't think Daboll in any of the next 2 years will come anywhere near scoring 25 ppg. I've been wrong before so here's to hoping I'm way off.

My own opinion but I think this is just the beginning. Veterans do not want to lay their last years on the line for a team that has no chance out of the gate. Say what you want but Rex left a team that just needed to learn how to play defense and last year they played defense and surprise, made the playoffs. Now a season later they have gone from a team that had a top ten scoring offense with a bottom half defense to a team that can make stops and get turnovers but averaged 18ppg last season. I'm not at all confident that they will average any better than that this year or next so I will not be surprised at all if veterans start to jump ship or end up mysteriously on IR by game 6.

Yet slice it any way you want the offense was top ten in scoring both seasons before Dennison came along. I get the premise of needing an elite passer and Tyrod is gone so water under the bridge but the notion that the offense was completely inept because Taylor didn't throw for 30 TD's is wrong. The offense with proper weapons in place would run for 160 yards on almost anyone and then throw an 80 yard bomb over your head but you can't do that with practice squad cast aways, Jordan Mathews and KB who for all the love is a bigger less productive Jordan Mathews. Now we all need to hope that Allen can work some magic and possibly even more importantly we better hope that Daboll is much better than his previous stops.

D E F E N S E You cannot give up over 23 ppg and win. Pats never give up more than 20. We were leading the league in scoring defense for the first 5 weeks and until we traded Dareous were shutting everyone down. The offense clearly suffered under Dennison and with no real recievers to speak of but with a good defense managed to eek out 9 wins. Just to add to that, Rex and his defense gave up 25 or more in half their games. Half. With the offense playing the way it did if that defense had done anything close to what McDermott did they would have made the playoffs easily.

Thank you for saying it for me.

That Kelsey time frame, they were in love with small defensive players. We were getting killed with our run defense and they kept drafting LB's sized DL players and safety sized LB's. I think Maybin happened then as well. Peters was talented and we developed him from nothing but he was a turd. He also gave up a ton of sacks and it seemed almost completely because he gave up on plays.

I'm going to go over the heads of any individual. Over the players, over the coaches, even owners and just say as a group or team it infuriates me that they just don't ever recognize and collectively just fix what's wrong. By that I mean each year you can pretty much put a finger on one area or part that isn't working and seemingly every year instead of just fixing the part that wasn't working they completely retool or tear apart what was working. The last time we had an offense that could outscore you and a defense that would sack you, cause turnovers, and keep you from scoring at the same time was back in the 90's. Now I know that everyone is trying to do that and I get it that it can't happen every year but it's been 20 years. When Chan was here they just needed a DC. When Rex was here oddly enough they just needed a DC. Seemingly now they need an OC hopefully Daboll is that OC but that remains to be seen, he wouldn't have been my pick. Marrone might have actually been building in the right direction with Hacket and Scwhartz, if you look at the Jags, but he wanted out. I just can't believe in 20 years they can't get it collectively together.

Without mentioning arm strength someone tell me why Allen is so much better than McCarron. I'm not saying AJ is better I just find it fascination that this thread is full of Taylor haters, people saying McCarron isn't going to be any good, yet outside of having "tremendous arm strength" there is not any more on film or paper to like about Allen then there is McCarron. Matter of fact, on paper and on the field in college, McCarron probably has done more. So then we have to talk development. Who here in Buffalo is going to create the "franchise" QB that we just traded a first and two second round picks to land? To address the thread topic I am fine with starting him day one or letting him sit and learn but it really doesn't matter either way if there is no veteran QB showing him the ropes or some Andy Reid like coach calling the plays and explaining the game to him.

If we are talking QB's and the passing game then Daboll's last gig is nothing to get excited about. They only managed to top 200 yards passing twice and were pretty much there to not screw it up for the defense. I think McDemott is a great defensive mind but being assistant to Reid does not in anyway mean he's ready to coach QB's otherwise he would have recognized how bad Dennison was botching the talent management side of OC last year. Instead he threw Peterman in there who clearly wasn't ready. I'm neither here nor there on the pick of Allen. I think he is what they said he is, a great arm talent, good mobility, and a project. The choice of Daboll as OC on the other hand I've scratched my head at all along. There is nothing to suggest he's ready to take an NFL offense to the next level.

Jesus ........... first throw of the Central Michigan game was almost a pick. Was this post supposed to be funny? Am I missing something?

Just commenting because I literally read all this and got excited enough to dive into the pile of videos you have here. 2 plays into the first video and Allen has thrown a pick and ran around the corner and took a hit that will certainly shorten his NFL career if he does so with regularity and he's playing Utah State. Judging from how excited you were/are I'm guessing it gets better but not what I expected so far. Yeah I actually turned the Utah State game off. It was disgusting. He is athletic and elusive. His line is not great. Guys didn't seem sure handed. All that said he threw a pick first play of the game and could have been picked at least two more times. Too high for his RB on a swing pass and almost got his WR's killed several times. I'll try the next game after a breather.

We complain about the passing attack and bring in a guy who only had two games with a QB that threw for over 200 yards last season. I guess that seems a little off to me.

Alabama didn't have a QB throw for more than 250 yards all season and only over 200 twice all season. Not sure anything is going to create the Air Coryell and especially Daboll and this WR group.

I think our WR "issue" will somewhat fall in Daboll's hands as much as the QB, RB, and OL issues do. A year ago everyone was saying our defense will be awful with the players we had and I said if McDermott is as advertised it will be much improved with or without a ton of talent. I don't have that same faith in Daboll to turn around the offense and that is why I didn't like the hire. That said if he is good, and ultimately was worth hiring, he will be able to get WR's open even without elite talent. Dennison left me scratching my head a number of times and ran a game plan that put WR's in a spot where the only real option was to physically get separation. Watch McDaniel's offense and you'll see guys running open by a mile who are no where near speedsters.