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14 minutes ago, Since1981 said:
Could 17 have restructured under specific premise that Beane help O? WR/draft. I’m still of the impression that top tier O FAs like WR can’t be a target due to BUF has a weather premium. Move up in draft for weather captive WR
It’s my understanding that the standard Bills contract says Bills can change salary into a bonus at will, without players consent.
Of course, I think Bills ptobably do notify players prior to restructure, so player doesn’t find out on twitter.
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6 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:
I don’t know about Coleman. I’m not the “he has to run 4.4 to be good” guy, but Coleman’s speed is pretty questionable for round 1 and while he is smooth, he lacks the lateral quickness to really shake coverage - of course those are just my unqualified opinions.
Coleman is basically KelvinBenjamin. Not fast, not quick. Good ball skills, good hands. But contrary to popular opinion, not a great contested catch guy.
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21 hours ago, BillsFanMike said:
I like the running backs from Penn State. I'd take Allen or Singleton in the mid to late rounds if they're still there.
Neither of those guys are eligible for the draft this year.
An under the radar day 3 guy is slot corner Daquon Hardy. Small guy but fast (4.3) and solid tackler. Reminds me of Nickel Roby.
Also had 3 punt returns for TD last year.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
How do? Because the refs allowed Jawaan Taylor to hold Bosa the entire game? Grats
The TD vs the Steelers playoff game was certainly explosives. Kincaid is certainly explosive when he catches and turns it upfield in one fluid motion. I think we have different opinions of what explosive is.
Fortunately we don’t need opinions when we have actual data to address the explosiveness question.
in terms of YAC per reception.
https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-te.php
Kincaid is solidly average.
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55 minutes ago, NewEra said:
I like the move. He’s a playmaker and has speed. We’re loaded underneath. Beane has been preaching RAC every offseason. Now he has it. Samuel, cook, kincaid, shakir are all explosive playmakers imo. Knox and Diggs aren’t too shabby either.
He’d be a fine signing for KC. I’m sure Veach has something up his sleeve.
He’s just not an X in many peoples opinion, mine included. He’s best in the slot and we already have a young up and coming slot playing on a rookie contract. We have limited resources and I can understand people preferring to invest resources to fill and immediate hole. Samuel is almost a luxury based on his skill set. Maybe those people are wrong and Samuel can fill the roll outside. Brady will just have to get creative. I suspect that we’ll be seeing some Mack Hollins playing more X than many think.
Not sure that I'd place Kincaid or Shakir in the "explosive playmaker" class.
To be clear, I think these guys are both excellent players. In the mid field (10-20 yd) range. But not explosive play guys.
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2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
No contract details yet …
Back with Leslie ..
Wait. Is Frazier a HC or DC with the Seahawks? Do we get a 3rd round pick for that?
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6 hours ago, FireChans said:
This is a terrible plan.
Not only has Beane never had a draft where more than 3 guys have “seriously” contributed day one, but to bank on the draft as a “plan” when picking late in rounds and having lots of day 3 picks is just awful when you know it’s a complete crapshoot.We currently have 1 starting safety on the roster. Why? Because every safety that Beane and co. drafted in their tenure here has sucked.
Hmm
Just wondering if you can name all a dem safeties dat Beane drafted who suck.
The way you wrote that there must be a dozen or more, so let’s go….
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
We could have gotten $23M but we chose not to kick all of it to future years. I guess they figured $16M is enough to do what they want to do in free agency.
Seems like a smart idea to me.
But if something comes up, can the Bills restructure it agin this off season?
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9 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:
They say yes the day after they found the keys to a safe deposit box with a bag full of money in it…,
This is an interesting question. In college football, it’s been known for years that players were getting money under the table, by “bagmen”. Is there any evidence that nfl players get money off the books to dodge the cap?
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5 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said:
Levi Wallace hinted that his time in Pittsburgh may be up. What would you think of the Bills signing him to bulk up our secondary?
Not a crazy idea.
in the Athletic (Joe Buscaglia ) Bills off season plans, he has Bills resigning Wallace at vet min.-
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4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
No it's based on the fact that EVERY super-rich new owner that has come before him has eventually lost their taste for wasting money...........an opinion that is largely supported by the fact that most teams that win championships do so with fairly firm budget constraints.
Counting on there being no end to Terry Pegula's generosity on the football side of his sports holdings is naive.
If behaving in the manner of 97% of the other owners by imposing limits on spending is "byzantine" then I guess that's your statement about pro sports ownership in general.
If we are lucky it doesn't happen until the Pegula children are in charge and the fortune gets divvied up.........as has been the case with Lamar Hunt Sr and the Hunt family's $15B+ estate(of which Clark Hunt Jr. "only" holds about $2B).
Hopefully, the Bills have a championship by then and get to a point where they win the way all of the multi-SB winning franchises like the Patriots, Steelers and Chiefs have been doing for the past quarter century.
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5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Pegula's willingness to use cash up front is why the Bills have been able to pull these levers to push cap debt down the road and subsequently spend the most actual money on players in the AFC year after year(New Orleans does this in the NFC).
But I remember when Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys and started pushing the envelope to expand his unshared revenue.......a separate multi-million dollar stadium rights deal with Pepsi when Coke was the official soft drink of the NFL is where it began..........and everyone realizing that these mountains of unshared revenue he could generate with the Cowboys name would create a competitive disadvantage for other teams in acquiring/retaining players because cash is king when it comes to the salary cap.
Well look at Jerry now. His investment in the Cowboys has grown to outrageous proportions.........but he operates with an approach almost akin to "cash to the cap" with regard to payroll. Part of that, IMO, is because he has a lot of his own money invested in the infrastructure now. He bought a team with a county run stadium and later built a palace largely out of pocket that he is the sole owner of. And instead of approaching unshared revenue as money to spend on players he is looking at as an entirely separate business.
We see something similar with the New York Yankees.........whose payroll to revenue ratio has gone from $240M/$300M in 2004 to just $300M/$900M(estimated) in 2024 even as the value of the franchise has skyrocketed as has the revenues of the team and their self-owned TV network and other holdings.
The lesson is that winning matters most until it doesn't. The turning point is often when the owners start re-investing their earnings into the product, IMO. And I can even speak from experience as a fairly well off business owner. Every time I re-invest in new infrastructure it changes how I feel about doling out salaries.
You can make the argument that greed just naturally expands as the only reason for the 2 largest franchises in US sports getting away from their win-at-all-cost mentality. And the Pegula's are raking in dough on the Bills and their investment in purchasing the Bills has more than doubled. But I believe it also changes when the product is re-invested in. And the Sabres are likely very unprofitable. And now Pegs is having to re-furbish his hockey arena while he is also facing somewhere in the neighborhood of $500M in cost over-runs on the new Bills stadium. Let's not forget that part of the strange PSE mission statement leaked a few years ago was keeping the family lifestyle intact. So if you don't think it's a consideration then we already know you are wrong about that.
All the EVIDENCE (new stadium $$, spending over the cap for the past several years by pushing $$ into the future) shows that Pegula is very willing to spend money on the Bills.
You’ve just got some byzantine conspiracy theory based on the Yankees and Jerry Jones that makes no sense whatsoever.
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56 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
In the highly unlikely event that they were to trade Dawkins I think that might indicate that Terry is worried about the cost over-runs that are going to come out of his pocket on the big hole across the street.
Sabres fans are perplexed about why Pegula didn't weaponize his cap space to add draft capital in recent years and Terry recently issued a statement promoting "a new roof" on the arena as a sales pitch for the product.
All parts of Pegula Sports aren't spending like the Bills side has in recent years to indulge Beane's wants and perceived needs.
???Cmon, think it through.
Pegula has a personal net worth of $5-10 billion, and the Bills are probably worth $3 billion.
And Bills have spent up to the cap the past 5 years while chasing Bills first ever Super Bowl win.
So with a team this close he’s going to discard one of the key players for a few million, that would then be spent on a different player anyway?
Really?
Yeah, Bills may trade or extend Dawkins.
But that would have nothing whatsoever to do with the stadium cost.
SMH
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1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said:
It’s based solely on the previous year, which is why it’s a popular cap tool for guys who were hurt the year before.
Thanks! That actually makes sense.
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Any chance he can catch on as a Sabres goalie?
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55 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Thanks. Who determines whether an incentive is “not likely to be earned”?
Apparently, one of Vons incentives is 2 sacks. I would guess that is likely to be earned, based on his improved play, and likelihood for increased snaps this coming year.
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On 3/4/2024 at 6:18 AM, All I Need is Hope said:
With the emergence of Bernard, Dodson, Williams and Spector; and considering other holes to fill and limited cap space, does it make any sense to consider seeking a high pick for Milano?
I love Milano’s playing style and impact, it’s just interesting to think about what he could fetch in a trade/shedding his cap hit, and using a high pick in a loaded draft.
I’m not going to say you’re a dumb@ss, because that’s against board policies.
But you’re not a smart @ss.
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On 3/3/2024 at 8:54 AM, H2o said:
The Combine has been fun to watch this year because of the performances by those at our greatest position of need, WR. From the 40's, to the drills, to the tape we have already seen on most of these guys, this is the year we can truly get a difference maker to go with Diggs.
The way the draft is going to shake out hinges on how teams view these QB's. That's usually the case, but these year even more so I believe. The first 13 picks are where the most QB needy teams are. In those picks you have 8 teams potentially in the market for a QB. Chicago, Washington, New England, Atlanta, Minnesota, Denver, and Las Vegas. The NY Giants could possibly go QB if they have soured on Danny Dimes and want to groom a guy for a season behind him. There was also talk of the Jets looking at QB's. Then you still have teams like Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Tampa who could be in the QB market come the draft. A few of these teams are likely to fill their need for a QB in FA or via trade with Mayfield, Cousins, Fields, or Wilson. How the QB situation plays out will have a huge impact on the top 13 picks.
Even with the talent pool there are still tiers to this WR class. It is extremely deep though. It's pretty much Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze followed by the rest. I think all three of those guys are going to be stars in this league. Some people say that Nabers may end up being the 1st WR off of the board and not MHJ. Either way, those two with Odunze are the cream of the crop. Even though two of those guys did nothing at the Combine, I have seen enough game film to know what they are. The next tier are all extremely talented, but they have more question marks. Say the draft pans out like the below scenario. Would you be willing to pay the cost to move up from #28 and how far would you go?
1. Chicago - Caleb Williams
2. Washington - Drake Maye
3. New England - Jayden Daniels
4. Arizona - Marvin Harrison Jr.
5. LA Chargers - Brock Bowers
6. NY Giants
7. Tennessee
8. Atlanta
9. Chicago
10. NY Jets
11. Minnesota
12. Denver
13. Las Vegas
I guess a lot of depends on where you feel this team is at overall. And to move up into the top 10, it's gonna cost you. Probably #28, our 2024 2nd, possibly another 2024 pick, 2025's 1st, and a 2025 3rd or 4th as well. Would you call Schoen and pay the price to get Nabers (or Odunze depending on your preference)? Would you wait and see how 6, 7, and 8 play out then hit up Chicago?
Me personally, I seriously consider making the move for Nabers. He, Diggs, Kincaid, Cook, and Shakir out there with Josh slinging to rock around?
In all seriousness though, who could the defense key on that would stop this offense then? Imo, at least 2 of the 5 would always be open. We'd have the best offense in the NFL.
What would you do? Move up for someone? Stay at #28 and see how the draft plays out? Who is your guy and what would you be willing to do to get him?
The answer to your question is in the 2nd post in the thread.
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1 hour ago, H2o said:
If we're staying at #28?
1. Brian Thomas Jr. (a pipe dream at this point)
2. Adonai Mitchell (probably gone as well)
3. Xavier Leggette
4. Ladd McConkey
Heres how I see it.
Only once in the history of the NFL draft have more than 6 WR been taken n the first round. That was 2004, 7 were taken, including one at 29 and one at 31.
So I'm thinking at most 6 WR, maybe only 4-5, will be off the board by the time Bills pick.
I also think Worthy is now the 4 WR pick; some GM wont be able to resist that speed.
Which leaves Thomas, Mitchell, Leggette, Franklin all as realistic possibilities. I like them all, in pretty much that order.
Given the wealth of really good WR on the board, Id be pretty disappointed if we go DE, DT, or S in first round.
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23 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:
So 11 coaches ranked higher then McD??? McD was in the second wave (3 got A+, 9 A and 7 more A-).
And Pegula's A- is 8th.
Not quite sure of your math.
How do you reason 11 coaches higher than McD.
I see 3 coaches graded higher than McD.
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8 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:
I KNOOOOOOWWWWWWW. again, I don't want to read all of their articles or watch their programming. I want to read THIS article. The game of thrones comparison is not the same thing. I pay for Netflix, I don't do it for one show. Even if I did, I understand that that's the only possible way I have access to thay show. I think it was wrong to make football fans subscribe to peacock just to watch a football game. Am I wrong for thinking that way too? The articles can be included with the ESPN plus subscription. That doesn't mean they can't make each individual article free to the reader.
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12 hours ago, Never NEVER Give-up said:
Not true. Dickerson had nothing good to say about the Bills because Marv called him on his BS and fired him 3 days after the Super Bowl. THEN he became an entertaining radio personality who continued to hold a grudge over his firing.
From a WAPO article dtd 1/29/92 from The AP:
A sampling of Dickerson's comments:
On tackle Jim Lachey: "Wears his jersey real well. Tapes down his sleeves to makes his guns look big. Real big. . . . A ballerina in a 310-pound body."
On tackle Joe Jacoby: "My type of guy. Neanderthal."
And on Bostic: "Ugly, like the rest of 'em.
Dickerson, 54, said the remarks about the Redskins offensive line were meant as a joke. They weren't taken that way by the Redskins, who said Dickerson's words helped motivate them to beat the Bills, 37-24.
After the game, Washington center Jeff Bostic said: "He gave us a great motivating speech. He was talking about the Hogs. He made a lot of really embarrassing remarks, coming from a coach. He made comments about each one of us individually. I wonder if he likes us now."
I was never a Dickerson fan, but I remember these comments.
Dickerson was trying to be like Madden, calling OL big uglies and slobs as a compliment.
It was all tongue in cheek.
Im not sure if Redskins Hogs weren’t smart enough to figure that out, or if they were just being fed the “he’s dissin you” line by their coaches. I sorta think the former. I’ve lived in DC area the last 20 yrs, Jacoby ain’t exactly the sharpest bulb.
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He and his sidekick (Art Wander) were both grade A aholes.
Dickerson would say he only wanted to hear strong opinions, strongly held.
In other words, people who wouldn’t compromise, and wouldn’t change their opinions, no matter what the facts were.
In a microcosm, everything that’s wrong with the US today.
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52 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:
The Athletic did a ten-part series discussing a broad off-season game plan by position (except QB). https://theathletic.com/tag/bills-in-review-2024/
I thought the most instructive part was the grades for the season per player with 200+ snaps. Their point scale is on a 4.0 grade scale. I also looked up the grade on PFF (scale -100) for each player as a comparison. The Athletic's grade is based on film study and I'm not of the criteria for PFF. Most of the grades were relatively similar, except for a couple. The difference between Dodson's Athletic grade and PFF grade really stands out.
What stands out to me was just how good Kincaid was as a rookie and how solid the entire O Line was. On Defense, Jones, Floyd, and maybe Epenesa look like the only FAs who should be brought back. Epenesa would have to be on a very reasonable contract. Of the depth FAs on Offense, PFF gave very good grades to Ty Johnson (82), Edwards (82.7), and Bates (78.7). Gabe Davis received a higher relative grade from the Athletic (2.96) than PFF (67.9).
Just to give some perspective on these "grades".
Which I put in quotes because there is a fair degree of subjectivity here. Its not like a multiple choice test where there are clear right and wrong answers. I think we all need to take these grades with a huge grain of salt.
The Athletic grades are entirely from Joe Buscaglia, a very good writer for The Athletic.
The PFF grades, as I understand things, are based upon numerous different evaluators, with some evaluators being better than others.
I'm not saying one set is better than the other. But from my observations, I think that Buscaglia's grades match what I see better than do PFF.
Dodson being an example. Per PFF, he was markedly better than Bernard, and one of the best LB in the entire NFL. Per Buscaglia, Bernard was clearly the better player.
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Drafting 10 or 11 Rookies: Is there an argument to do that this year?
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As of now, bills have 2 picks in first 3 rounds. I see Beane trying to get back into the third, probably by packaging lower round picks.