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2 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:
I respect your opinion brother but they didn't. And if you want my honest hardcore opinion, I didn't think they were ever winning this game. I didn't think they were winning last years game or against Cincinnati.
13 seconds was their best team. I truly believed we were winning the Superbowl that year....It was electric and Allen was incredible. It didn't happen
Right. It didn't happen. But that doesn't mean they don't have the talent to make it happen. Again, they were one win away. If they score one more TD yesterday that is all it would have took and then all you have to do is beat the Eagles. We were definitely good enough. We just made the mistakes that the Chiefs didn't
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Just now, uticaclub said:
Top 4 with no chance of winning isn’t good enough
Who said we had no chance of winning. We were in the championship game. We scored 29 points. We only lost by 3. We made some mistakes that if we don't win, we probably would have won. We are good enough to beat any team I. The league when we are on. Unfortunately, yesterday we weren't
6 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:This regime will never get to a super bowl.
Maybe if they held on in 13 seconds they win the super bowl and things would be different. It didn't go that way for a reason....
Nothing pisses me off more than the NFL getting rid of the 2 seed bye week.
I mean seriously??!!!
What a cosmic joke
You can make that argument for the 2 seed bye week but again, you didn't answer my question of had we had gotten to the Super Bowl this year which was entirely possible, would you make the same argument because we were one win away. And we lost by 3 points
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2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
If we run it back, which we will, the goal is simple. First round bye or bust. This team can't keep facing Lamar, Burrow, or Mahomes in the divisional and then again on the road. They need more of a lay up divisional game and then a home game in the conference champion. That would be a sign to say maybe its different. To do that we can't have any early season lapses, slow starts, sleepy games. We need to be out for blood from the jump.
Only issue with this is, as this year showed. We won 13 games. We could have easily won 14 if we wanted to actually play starters and try against the Patriots the last game of the season. Even with that 14 wins, we still wouldn't have gotten a first round bye because the Chiefs won 15. We have won 13 games 3 times the last 5 seasons and all 3 times we missed out on the number 1 seed because the other teams had 14. It's not simple. Asking a team to win 14 or 15 games a year just to get the 1 seed is too difficult. Even the Chiefs only won 11 games last year in the regular season
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4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:
This regime is the Warren Moon oilers. Awesome team, scored lots of points. Lots of accomplishment
They weren't a championship regime.
Same could be said about the Knicks or Utah jazz but they at least got to the championship.
There is a strong demarcation between the bills level and KC. It goes beyond just this game and the gulf is wider than this singular moment. It's many moments together and they're just not good enough.
Allen is a hof qb tho and isn't even 30 yet so there is tangible substantive hope for a world championship
This team is plenty good enough. They just make the most mistakes when it matters most. They have to fix that. I honestly think this team can beat anyone in the league when they are on their game. Yesterday they weren't. I ask you again, had they have gotten to a Super Bowl and won it this year with this same roster, would you make the same argument?
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4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:
Because in life you have to try. Maybe someone is from a tough background, maybe they got burned in a bad marriage but you've to keep trying.
This chapter is closed in my opinion and I think it's just time to move on and start a new story around Allen.
This is kinda more serious than sports but when I was still drinking, I would keep going to the bar not out of enjoyment but because I didn't want to let go of that part of my life. I knew I had to stop but I didn't want to let go.
Eventually it took severe anxiety from alcohol withdrawal and I finally moved on.
This regime is living under the umbrella of 13 seconds and I just think it's time to move on.
You can't compare life situations to sports. They are 2 totally different things. And also I still think you're wrong when you say we aren't close. You're wrong. We are very close. Let me ask you something. We were win away from a Super Bowl. We scored 30 or more points 13 times and over 40 points 5 times. All we to do had was win this game and it's 50/50 that we win a Super Bowl. Now let me ask you, if we had won the Super Bowl this year with this same roster, would you be making the same argument? Because that is literally how close we were. The other thing to think about here is, football playoffs are only one game. If football was best of 7 like other sports, how many times do you think we could beat the Chiefs? 3? Maybe on another really good day 4? It's all about being better on that day. We were the better team in the regular season game. We didn't play like it in the playoffs. The fact that we can beat them in the regular season tells me in a best of 7, we could get them 3 or maybe 4 times. That's not way off. We also didn't have Benford after early in the game and no Rapp. Every single one of their players was healthy. There's a lot of factors that go into a one game single elimination game. It's not as simple as it sounds
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1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said:
Ppl can get mad at me dude but if Cincinnati got in they were going to cook our defense.
Sure maybe Allen goes alien mode and wins but what are we really talking about....
They're not winning a championship with this coach and regime. You can try to rationalize it however you want. I firmly believe we need to move on
They aren't winning a championship period. But that's just because that's how it goes being a Bills fan. We had a head coach that had 4 straight shots with a HOF QB and still couldn't win a Super Bowl. We had a bunch of other regimes that couldn't win anything. We have McDermott who has gone to the playoffs in 7 out of 8 seasons with another HOF talent QB in Allen. What makes you think the next regime would be different? Hasn't our history alone been enough to make you realize it doesn't matter what we do?
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4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:
Same thing happened against different variations of KC and Cincinnati.... Too much data is in. They're not good enough
Beane and McDermott had 8 Years. 5 with an all time QB. It's not going to happen with this regime
They only lost to Cincy once in the playoffs. KC has ended our season 4 times in the last 5 years. But outside of Burrow one time, no one else is getting past them either. That should tell you right there that it's not just us or as much of a talent thing. Mahomes and the Chiefs literally beat everyone. He is 18-3 in the playoffs with 2 of the losses coming to Brady. We make the playoffs every year. We have gotten to the Championship game twice. You don't do that if you're not good enough. We are a top 4 team every season going into the playoffs
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4 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
This is a bit of my own therapy.....
Regardless of how you break down the game, for two straight years, we’ve had the ball down by three with our number-one-rated offense, our Superman quarterback, and a chance to tie or win the game. In both years, we failed to do so. It’s difficult to place a lot of blame on a guy who’s literally one of the only reasons we even made it to this point. But the question that we have been asking, and that we all want to know, is: why can’t we get past a certain point in the playoffs? To me, the type of quarterback Josh Allen is is at least part of that story—certainly not all of it—and clearly we wouldn’t even be here in the first place without him. Josh is the most talented quarterback in the NFL. He is the most valuable quarterback in the NFL, but he’s more of a sandlot-style player. His greatest strengths aren’t reading defenses, making pre-snap reads, delivering the hot ball quickly, or running a systematic offense. He’s not like Brady, Montana, or Burrow. And when you’re in moments where you have one drive and it needs to be executed perfectly, his style of quarterback play, in my view, is not optimal. In both years he very well could have overcome it as both of these drives we had a wide receiver or tight end drop a critical ball that could’ve changed the outcome of the game. So we this isn’t on Josh so don’t twist my position that way. Not the optimal style of play for those moments from my view. That is all, we lost as a team.
Speaking on which……
We’ve missed on several first-round draft choices for multiple years—Elam, Kincaid—and while I wouldn’t say Coleman's is a straight-up miss, when the opportunity was there to potentially draft Worthy or trade up for Thomas, we chose to go with the most risky option: a player that many people were staying away from because of separation issues. We SHOULD be asking questions about our draft strategy. We’ve done a good job in the mid-to-late rounds finding starting-level talent, but we’ve failed to find elite players, elite difference-makers. Further the roster construction at times has been a bit of a head scratcher. We made a great selection in Shakir. He’s shown to be a great YAC guy and a valuable slot receiver. Then we draft Kincaid, who is not a full-time, run-blocking, pass-catching tight end—he’s a receiving tight end. And guess what? You’re not going to be splitting him out wide very often. He’s almost always going to occupy one of your slot roles. Then what do we do in the offseason? We sign Curtis Samuel, who’s another slot-type guy. If that wasn’t enough, if you review Coleman’s tape and some of his advanced stats from MSU and Florida State, you'd see he performed best out of the big slot role, which negated some of his issues, like trouble getting off the ball and separation issues. There was no cohesion in these decisions. There were no complementary wide receivers. It almost felt like when Dorsey called plays, he was calling each one individually, as if the play before had no impact on the next. It felt like we just decided to take players we thought were good and figured we’d make it work later.
On the defensive side, I’ve been one of the most vocal critics of McDermott, but I’m tired of it. He’s our coach, and it seems likely he’s not going anywhere for a very long time, right or wrong. I’m tired of 80% of my posts crapping on him. We made some stops in yesterday’s game, and we adjusted pretty effectively in the second half. I trust him as a coach who can stabilize a team, even though I don’t like his system. Crap on him or not, at the end of the day, Kansas City has had incredible success against his system—more so than any other team they’ve faced in the playoffs. Those are facts. Kansas City performs exceptionally well against our defense, especially in the playoffs.
We’ve been at this for eight years, and we just don’t have the horses on defense. We lost both of our starting safeties and replaced them with virtually nobody. We have no depth at corner. We had Milano, who we knew wasn’t going to be ready for most of the season, and Bernard, who was a good mid-round pick. We don’t have any players who are top 8 at their positions, outside of Taron Johnson. Maybe Benford, but we just don’t have the horses. So regardless of whether you want to call McDermott’s scheme trash, and it certainly looks that way against Kansas City, he won’t be able to execute it with this talent level.
Then there’s the play-calling on offense. We’ve become so dependent on the tush push that we didn’t develop any other short-yardage plays. The only other short-yardage play we had was basically a speed option with Josh and Cook, which worked for a touchdown, one of the most amazing runs I’ve seen from a Bills player in years. But that’s about it. Look at how Kansas City schemed their bootlegs and short-yardage plays against us. When you’re dealing with a heavily compacted defense, if the end is not disciplined (and ours wasn’t), it’s game over. We had no short-yardage plays outside of the one we saw. When you’re going to scheme plays offensively to essentially put yourself in short-yardage situations, you should have a full arsenal of 1- to 2-yard plays at your disposal. But we just said, "Well, screw it, because we’re good at this." Some could argue that Philadelphia is similar, but I’ve never seen Jalen Hurts get stuffed on his own 1-yard line, fumble the ball, and nearly cost his team the game. The second Josh got stuffed on the first sneak for the 2-point conversion, that should’ve been a wake-up call. The push from Kansas City, in addition to Josh’s tentativeness, showed it was a mistake to keep running that play. I don’t care if he got the first down or not—time has told us that you cannot leave it in the hands of the refs.
We have a long season ahead and a lot of thinking to do. It sucks, and I don’t know what the answer is. We have some good players, but part of the issue when you re-sign a player whose good but not great is that they occupy that role for a significant time, and you don’t get the chance to get another great player in that spot because you think you’re good enough. It really feels like this team needs a reset, and I don’t know if that’s McDermott or not. As I said, I’m not going to continue talking about him after this post. It’s too much negativity. But this team is starting to feel like it needs the plug pulled. Not because it hasn't been very successful or McD sucks or bla bla, but more because it needs a violent shake-up to go further than it has. If that costs us a year to rebuild, I don’t care. This regime and these players have failed to get it done. Eventually, we need to figure out how to stop that from happening. You can’t just keep saying, "Well, Kansas City is the best, and we lost to the best, so that’s how it is." No. We were inches away from beating the best multiple times. A little better scheme, a little better execution, and a little better roster would’ve made the difference. It was that close, but we failed again. Perhaps we just keep running it back, I just don't know how that is the answer. But when I say blow it up it's not out of hate for these guys. I just don't know what the path forward can be.
Love you all and I wish we didn’t have to go thru this.
What makes you think Allen isn't all that great at reading defenses or presnap reads? He explains what he saw and the types of defensive looks he get in press conferences all the time
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We can't get over the hump because of the Chiefs. Plain and simple. But look at it this way, who else is getting past them besides Burrow one time? If the Chiefs were any other playoff team or had any other QB, then we would have been to at least 2 Super Bowls by now
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3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
This is a bit of my own therapy.....
Regardless of how you break down the game, for two straight years, we’ve had the ball down by three with our number-one-rated offense, our Superman quarterback, and a chance to tie or win the game. In both years, we failed to do so. It’s difficult to place a lot of blame on a guy who’s literally one of the only reasons we even made it to this point. But the question that we have been asking, and that we all want to know, is: why can’t we get past a certain point in the playoffs? To me, the type of quarterback Josh Allen is is at least part of that story—certainly not all of it—and clearly we wouldn’t even be here in the first place without him. Josh is the most talented quarterback in the NFL. He is the most valuable quarterback in the NFL, but he’s more of a sandlot-style player. His greatest strengths aren’t reading defenses, making pre-snap reads, delivering the hot ball quickly, or running a systematic offense. He’s not like Brady, Montana, or Burrow. And when you’re in moments where you have one drive and it needs to be executed perfectly, his style of quarterback play, in my view, is not optimal. In both years he very well could have overcome it as both of these drives we had a wide receiver or tight end drop a critical ball that could’ve changed the outcome of the game. So we this isn’t on Josh so don’t twist my position that way. Not the optimal style of play for those moments from my view. That is all, we lost as a team.
Speaking on which……
We’ve missed on several first-round draft choices for multiple years—Elam, Kincaid—and while I wouldn’t say Coleman's is a straight-up miss, when the opportunity was there to potentially draft Worthy or trade up for Thomas, we chose to go with the most risky option: a player that many people were staying away from because of separation issues. We SHOULD be asking questions about our draft strategy. We’ve done a good job in the mid-to-late rounds finding starting-level talent, but we’ve failed to find elite players, elite difference-makers. Further the roster construction at times has been a bit of a head scratcher. We made a great selection in Shakir. He’s shown to be a great YAC guy and a valuable slot receiver. Then we draft Kincaid, who is not a full-time, run-blocking, pass-catching tight end—he’s a receiving tight end. And guess what? You’re not going to be splitting him out wide very often. He’s almost always going to occupy one of your slot roles. Then what do we do in the offseason? We sign Curtis Samuel, who’s another slot-type guy. If that wasn’t enough, if you review Coleman’s tape and some of his advanced stats from MSU and Florida State, you'd see he performed best out of the big slot role, which negated some of his issues, like trouble getting off the ball and separation issues. There was no cohesion in these decisions. There were no complementary wide receivers. It almost felt like when Dorsey called plays, he was calling each one individually, as if the play before had no impact on the next. It felt like we just decided to take players we thought were good and figured we’d make it work later.
On the defensive side, I’ve been one of the most vocal critics of McDermott, but I’m tired of it. He’s our coach, and it seems likely he’s not going anywhere for a very long time, right or wrong. I’m tired of 80% of my posts crapping on him. We made some stops in yesterday’s game, and we adjusted pretty effectively in the second half. I trust him as a coach who can stabilize a team, even though I don’t like his system. Crap on him or not, at the end of the day, Kansas City has had incredible success against his system—more so than any other team they’ve faced in the playoffs. Those are facts. Kansas City performs exceptionally well against our defense, especially in the playoffs.
We’ve been at this for eight years, and we just don’t have the horses on defense. We lost both of our starting safeties and replaced them with virtually nobody. We have no depth at corner. We had Milano, who we knew wasn’t going to be ready for most of the season, and Bernard, who was a good mid-round pick. We don’t have any players who are top 8 at their positions, outside of Taron Johnson. Maybe Benford, but we just don’t have the horses. So regardless of whether you want to call McDermott’s scheme trash, and it certainly looks that way against Kansas City, he won’t be able to execute it with this talent level.
Then there’s the play-calling on offense. We’ve become so dependent on the tush push that we didn’t develop any other short-yardage plays. The only other short-yardage play we had was basically a speed option with Josh and Cook, which worked for a touchdown, one of the most amazing runs I’ve seen from a Bills player in years. But that’s about it. Look at how Kansas City schemed their bootlegs and short-yardage plays against us. When you’re dealing with a heavily compacted defense, if the end is not disciplined (and ours wasn’t), it’s game over. We had no short-yardage plays outside of the one we saw. When you’re going to scheme plays offensively to essentially put yourself in short-yardage situations, you should have a full arsenal of 1- to 2-yard plays at your disposal. But we just said, "Well, screw it, because we’re good at this." Some could argue that Philadelphia is similar, but I’ve never seen Jalen Hurts get stuffed on his own 1-yard line, fumble the ball, and nearly cost his team the game. The second Josh got stuffed on the first sneak for the 2-point conversion, that should’ve been a wake-up call. The push from Kansas City, in addition to Josh’s tentativeness, showed it was a mistake to keep running that play. I don’t care if he got the first down or not—time has told us that you cannot leave it in the hands of the refs.
We have a long season ahead and a lot of thinking to do. It sucks, and I don’t know what the answer is. We have some good players, but part of the issue when you re-sign a player whose good but not great is that they occupy that role for a significant time, and you don’t get the chance to get another great player in that spot because you think you’re good enough. It really feels like this team needs a reset, and I don’t know if that’s McDermott or not. As I said, I’m not going to continue talking about him after this post. It’s too much negativity. But this team is starting to feel like it needs the plug pulled. Not because it hasn't been very successful or McD sucks or bla bla, but more because it needs a violent shake-up to go further than it has. If that costs us a year to rebuild, I don’t care. This regime and these players have failed to get it done. Eventually, we need to figure out how to stop that from happening. You can’t just keep saying, "Well, Kansas City is the best, and we lost to the best, so that’s how it is." No. We were inches away from beating the best multiple times. A little better scheme, a little better execution, and a little better roster would’ve made the difference. It was that close, but we failed again. Perhaps we just keep running it back, I just don't know how that is the answer. But when I say blow it up it's not out of hate for these guys. I just don't know what the path forward can be.
Love you all and I wish we didn’t have to go thru this.
Are you gonna get this novel published?
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7 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:
He was amped up and his ball was sailing but let’s face it this isn’t his fault and no other QB on the planet could even get this throw off
I still don't know how Kincaid didn't catch that
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26 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said:
If he hadn't drafted Allen, he would already be fired.
Name me a team with a franchise quarterback where this isn't the case?
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4 minutes ago, uticaclub said:
Due to the talent gap between Buffalo and their AFC rivals, beating Baltimore was a great achievement, but it's unlikely that they can defeat three teams that are better than them. in a row. If Allen doesn’t play perfectly this team has little chance for winning consistently.
I don't think there is that much of a talent gap. How many really good teams beat 3 or 4 really good teams in a row without dropping 1 or 2 besides the Chiefs? It doesn't really happen. We just made the AFC Championship game. We lost by 3 points and if not for stupid play calls we probably win that game. Think about it, we definitely could be in the Super Bowl right now and may have won it. And the only thing that stood in the way of that was one game but had we won it, we wouldn't be having this conversation. We are in good hands with Beane. You don't come one game away from the Super Bowl with an extremely far off talent gap
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6 hours ago, iwishitwerecolder said:
This was a crucial year for the bills. We fell up short. How much left do we got left before it all fades? Allen is going to be 29 next year, how many more hits can he take before his most crucial part of his game (his legs) is useless? Imo next year it’s book or absolute bust. Allen is in the later part of his career. This is it next year
How many hits did he take this year?
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I still don't really get the hate for Beane. We were literally just one game away from the Super Bowl. I swear we could actually win the Lombardi and fans would complain that he got his fingerprints on it and should have worn gloves. We will be fine with him as GM
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2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:
This is a huge offseason for Brandon Beane. I’ve been big supporter of his throughout his time as GM but now he needs to make something happen. After last night, I know he has egg on his face right now gifting the Chiefs Xavier Worthy. I know the Diggs contract set him back on what he could do this past offseason but now he’s has to make something shake.
The roster needs playmakers on both sides of the ball.I didn't see any egg on his face. Do you think he will still have egg on his face during the end of season press conference or will he wash it off?
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1 hour ago, BillMafia716ix said:
Pass rush has to be addressed in the draft. It’s going to cost multiple first round picks to land either Crosby or Garrett. Khalil Mack is an unrestricted free agent so I would definitely look at him.
Groot play this year didn’t earn him a contract extension play this year IMO. Von Miller was actually one of our best edge defenders this year but his contract is really bad for a guy only playing 30% of snaps. I would prefer Von as a DE3 over Epenesa for sure but he’s gotta restructure his deal and I don’t think he’s gonna do that two years in a row.
Don't care. I'm tired of not having a pass rush. Do it
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4 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
That is absolutely horrific rationalizing.
And Levy took us to four straight Super Bowls, ... with Kelly.
That's what I just said, yet, what happened? Did we get a trophy? No. We have nothing to show for it. It's perfectly good rationalizing if you actually understand what I was saying
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Him or Myles Garrett. I don't care. For the love of God, spend the money and get one of them here. We need pressure on Mahomes and until we get a guy like this, it will never happen
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4 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
Funny though, a new QB sure "fixed" McD, who had been about a .500 coach after three seasons.
Marrone and Mularkey gave us 9-7 seasons in a division where we would concede two games every season (aka 0-2) to the Pats, with Orton and Bledsoe at QB, the latter of which was about as mobile as I am most of us old-timers are these days. Ryan gave us an 8-8 season under the same circumstances.
You don't think that either of them would be at least 10-7 with Allen at QB? ... in this easy cakewalk of a division that at least a third of the teams would win.
And no, I'm not in the least suggesting that they be hired, just posing the question otherwise.
Seems as if this team could sleepwalk to 10-7 in this crap division. Hell, to get there, assuming a 5-1 divisional record, all they'd need to do is go 5-6 otherwise.
Why is that such a farfetched idea for so many?
Levy lost 4 straight Super Bowls. Every coach we have had until McDermott. Did nothing. McDermott himself has now made the playoffs in 7 out of 8 years on the job and still nothing. But you magically think that a bunch of different regimes, 2 of which have HOF QBs in Kelly and now Allen, are gonna all of a sudden take us to the promise land? How many more regimes do you need to see before you realize it will never happen?
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It still cracks me up that people don't realize that if the roles reversed and Mahomes was here and Allen was in Kansas that Mahomes would have nothing and Allen would have at least 2 rings
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I may actually not watch it. I have less than zero interest in it
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Too good. Beane would rather waste another draft pick on a guy that gets 2 sacks a year
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18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Guys get held on the time. Dude is just completely washed and stole money from us.
Give him another million for enjoying the game!
Wow guys get held all the time? I didn't know that. And how often does even the best pass rushers get to the QB when they are held very badly? It significantly lowers their chances. He was held really bad a few times. Like literal arm bar around the neck held. But sure, that doesn't matter
Some thoughts on why we can't get over the hump
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I understand we didn't win but that doesn't mean we weren't talented enough to win. You can be just as talented or more talented than a team and lose when you have a bad day. This team is good enough the way it is to beat any team when we play the way we are supposed to. If we would have scored one more TD yesterday, we would be on our way to the Super Bowl next week.