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  1. 1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said:

     

     

    I don't think Beane is ever going to bring in a player again with locker room issues or however you want to call it. He was obviously toxic and I was happy he was traded and I'm glad he's gone.

     

    He didn't respect Beane , McDermott or Allen and that's where it ends.

     

    There's a reason the teams body language, success, and camaraderie is at an all time high after this clown 🤡 left along with Allen having his best year.

     

    You can believe that is a coincidence or things were probably way worse than we'll ever know.

     

    Just my 2 cents

    I agree. Diggs being gone. Is definitely helpful to this team right now

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  2. 29 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    Diggs was under contract for TWO MORE YEARS. He had no leverage. Beane didn't give Josh a massive raise because Tua and Burrow got paid. It was a bad deal on Beane's part.

     

    No one could have seen this coming is factually not true.

     

    Some people liked the Spencer Brown extension. Some folks hated it. If Spencer Brown plays at a really high level for the next couple years, Beane will get a lot of credit. If he flames out and his chronic back injuries resurface, Beane will get a lot of blame.

     

    That's the game.

     

    I KNOW HE WAS UNDER CONTRACT FOR 2 MORE YEARS. I DO NOT CARE. he OUTPLAYED that deal. Do you know what outplayed means? He deserved to be paid among the best in the league which he was not paid at compared to the other guys at the time. WRs he was on par with were making $8 or 9$ million more a season than he was. He paid a productive WR what was rightfully deserved at the time. Yeah, you don't resign a player with chronic injury problems. So, Spencer Brown I would agree with if it didn't work out. But this blame he his he is taking for Diggs is ridiculous. And why are we even talking about it? The assumption that the other guy made saying that McDermott has bailed Beane out is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. They have done great things together. Neither is perfect. They have made few mistakes but the good has far outweighed the bad with both. The players Beane has drafted is a big part of our success. He isn't bailed out by McDermott, that's just complete nonsense. 

  3. 7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    Are we acting like Diggs didn't get a big money extension and demand a trade right after to end up in Buffalo in the first place?

     

    You are conflating two very different situations.

     

    Giving Diggs an extension was a calculated risk that blew up in Beane's face because he had a known track record of forcing his way out of town even after getting paid.

     

    Giving Von a gigantic contract when he was 1000 years old was a calculated risk that blew up in Beane's face because he was a larger injury risk.

     

    Giving a player that his earned an extension then that player inexplicably turning into a terrible player is far different.

     

    Ultimately, its a results business. You are acting like no one could have seen Von getting hurt or Diggs becoming a cancer (again). You are welcome to read through those threads when those moves were announced. Some loved them and some thought they were mistakes.

     

    Beane owns the result. Like every other GM does. Everything he does is his fault, positively or negatively. He doesn't get a pass because he had decent logic behind the idea. Just like no other GM does either. If big splashes are failures, they are failures that he, as the GM, wears.

    Dude, you resign good players. Diggs was someone we needed at the time and may have held out if not for an explosion in market rate at the time. At that point, I didn't care about what happened in Minnesota or what exactly from all that was true. He gave a productive WR an extension that didn't work out. My Allen example is still an example of how people will blame Beane for pretty much any extension he makes even if it is warranted and doesn't work out. It happens from time to time. I don't want him extending average players for instance, I think Dawson Knox's deal was a terrible deal and I blame Beane for that. I do not blame him for the Diggs deal

  4. 50 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    I’m not saying I don’t understand why he gave him the extension. I know exactly why he did. 
     

    He wanted to reward a guy with a reputation of being volatile so he didn’t become disgruntled. And he went against the philosophy that every single player outside of Josh Allen was treated with, “no extensions with more than 1 year left on your current deal.”
     

    He was wrong. He misplayed it and Diggs became disgruntled anyway.


    You are trying to say because he had his reasons, he is blameless. He is not. No GM in the NFL who gives a gigantic extension and then trades that player, accumulating the highest non-QB dead hit is blameless. 

    If the Cardinals gave some random dude $70M in guaranteed and cut him before he played a snap, their GM would get killed. Rightfully so. Their job is to be right. 

    You don't blame a GM for extending guys he should. You blame a GM for extending and giving guys money that don't deserve it. That wasn't the case case with Diggs at the time. Now if he extended Gabe Davis and gave him $20-$25 million a season or even signed him to what Jacksonville did, then yes, you blame him. You don't blame a GM for giving well deserved contracts that don't work out mid way through 

  5. 31 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    I’m not saying I don’t understand why he gave him the extension. I know exactly why he did. 
     

    He wanted to reward a guy with a reputation of being volatile so he didn’t become disgruntled. And he went against the philosophy that every single player outside of Josh Allen was treated with, “no extensions with more than 1 year left on your current deal.”
     

    He was wrong. He misplayed it and Diggs became disgruntled anyway.


    You are trying to say because he had his reasons, he is blameless. He is not. No GM in the NFL who gives a gigantic extension and then trades that player, accumulating the highest non-QB dead hit is blameless. 

    If the Cardinals gave some random dude $70M in guaranteed and cut him before he played a snap, their GM would get killed. Rightfully so. Their job is to be right. 

    Yes, he gave Diggs the deal. If he had known Diggs would become a baby with an attitude after the 2nd year of that new deal, I highly doubt he would have done it. I don't understand how you can blame Beane even now for doing it at the time. Again, if he signed Allen to a massive 5 year extension after this season and then Allen all of a sudden started playing like Zach Wilson for the next 3 years and then we trade him, is Beane to blame for that based on Allen's current career production? No. Nor should he really be blamed that bad for what happened to Diggs 

  6. 1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:

    So you're trying to say the contract and dead hit with Diggs was unavoidable?  That's a stretch. 

     

    You do understand that Beane is responsible for the contracts, right?    When a big mistake is made, such that it impacts the talent level of the team, Beane should be held accountable.  The whole discussion of whether this year was a "retool" or "rebuild" were because of choices Beane was making for cap compliance- which again is under the direction of Beane.

    If you don't understand why he made that deal. There is no help for you

  7. 33 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    And if Beane doesn’t give him a giant extension 2 years early, we don’t have a gigantic dead money cap hit.

    Ok. Let's look at this for a second. You realize that the contract that Diggs was playing on was the one he had from Minnesota, correct? After his first 2 years in Buffalo, he outplayed that contract. Dhop was making almost $30 million a wear in Arizona. Davante just got traded that same off-season and was making almost $30 million a season. Tyreek Hill also got traded that same season and made almost $30 million a year. Diggs at the time was still a top 5 WR and was making about $8 or $9 million less a year than those guys and Beane have him a new deal and compensated him fairly with a new deal to give him market rate. It didn't work out but that happens and it was because of Diggs attitude problem. I'm not sure what you don't get about that. It's like I tell people about the Von Miller deal. Yes, now it looks terrible. But I understand at the time why he made that deal. And Von's first year before his injury, it looked like money well spent. That would be like him giving Allen a massive new deal after this season and then Allen follows it with the 3 worst seasons of his career and then people scream "well, that's on Beane". He gave Diggs market at the time. He had no intention of letting Diggs go 2 years into that deal when he made it

  8. 9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

    What have we done? I mean this earnestly. We've seen them stack regular season wins against poor competition before. We've seen them beat KC in the regular season before. None of this is new, and frankly I don't find much meaning in any of it.

    I'm looking to see if we have improved our team makeup, playcalling, execution and situational decision making enough to beat other teams that have had more success than us in the past and have also been trying to get better. I think we've gotten better in most categories, but I think we still lack the top end talent all the teams I have ahead of us have, we've still had suspect playcalling for stretches, and I've seen ups and downs from McDermott. Miami 1 was a coaching masterclass, and then there was the Ravens game.

    I really don't think that's going out of my way to paint things in a negative light. I think we're still a top 6ish team in the league, as we have been for the last few years. I don't think we've made the jump to top 4.

     

    To your point about "leadership", perhaps that's the issue. I have very little faith int he leadership of this team to do much beyond what they've done. I don't think this is a staff that is capable of winning a championship, and I think a lot of the praise they get for us being relevant now is a little hyperbolic. Like most coaches and GMs, their success has been heavily dependent on getting a great quarterback. Props for that, no doubt. Given the QB that they have though, I would absolutely say they've underachieved.

    According to all the experts, we were supposed to struggle this year and not win the division and possibly not even make the playoffs. I think people would have been impressed if they were 7-5 at this point. We're 10-2. We have beaten an 11-1 team we are doing way better than expected. 

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  9. 36 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    Diggs had 2 years left on his deal.

     

    The only players that Beane gave a big money extension to with 2 years+ left on their deals was Josh and Diggs. One is our franchise QB for 15+ years. The other was a disgruntle-prone WR with a history of forcing himself off teams in the past. 
     

    Diggs did not deserve an extension. He was given one to keep him happy, and it eliminated any motivation for him to keep being a good soldier. Beane played with fire in the form of a volatile WR, and got burned. Diggs didn’t play a single snap on his extension, and Beane has to own that mistake.

    What do you specifically think McDermott did to develop Josh? Do you think he broke down his mechanics and helped clean up his footwork?

     

    I think McD hired the guys who did that. And kudos to him for doing so. But there’s a difference when you are the guy who DOES that or the guy who hires the right guys to do that. 

    I don't blame Beane for giving his Allstars WR at the time fair market value. Again, if Diggs doesn't cause his own way out, he's still here

  10. 1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:

    All but the most diehard anti-McD haters admit that this is a stand out coaching year by McDermott.  The regular season from now to the end is just an exercise in how high of a seed the Bills get.  They have already exceeded expectations of most people.

     

    Beane however is a different story.  The preseason expectations were lower than normal because the talent level appeared to dip - that's on Beane.  Yes, the Diggs disaster was a large factor - but Beane's fingerprints are all over that - from the responsibility for the contract, to the ultimate decision to trade Diggs away.  The "retool' was brought about by Beane.  The WR room looked pathetic, the S room looked suspect, and the treatment of the OL was risky, along with a huge change in leadership.

     

    McDermott bailed Beane out.  It's no longer a big deal that the Bills played half the season with a bottom 5 WR room.   Just as many people bought into the laughable "everyone eats" nonsense at WR many have been fooled into thinking Hamlin was a legitimate starting S (spoiler alert Hyde wasn't brought in to coach from the PS).

     

    While many tie McDermott and Beane together, I would hope Beane is sending McD a really nice XMas gift this year.  Looks like they'll be together for several more years.

    Wtf are you talking about? Beane gave Diggs that contract because in that particular season when it happened, all of a sudden the WR market started to increase unexpectedly. Davante Adams got traded to and paid a crap ton from the Raiders, Tyreek Hill got traded to Miami and signed an insane deal and Beane have Diggs a Market based deal deservingly so at the time. He parted ways with Diggs this year because it was clear to see Diggs wore out his welcome and didn't want to be here anymore. I can guarantee, if Diggs keeps his mouth shut and plays, he is on this team this year. He forced himself out. Beane chose to get rid of the toxicity Diggs brought. How do you not understand this?

     

     

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  11. 17 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

    I blocked him long ago for his low quality, attack-laden posts. People have been using personal attacks against my posts, instead of just trying to discredit them on merit, for years. I'm used to it at this point.

    You can look back through my post history for the last 4 years or so and it should all be very consistent. There is little that has happened this year that is counter to my primary concerns about this team. I said I could see us winning 10-11 games due to the weakness of our schedule as perceived after the draft and into the summer. As it turns out, our schedule has been even weaker than what anyone could have guessed due to the jets and dolphins imploding, and KC and SF being far more vulnerable than they have in past seasons. The league in general is also having a really bad year with a ton of teams at the bottom and a ton of pretenders at the top.

    That said, the Bills are playing way better football than what I expected. Josh is also playing the best football of his career (which I've mentioned on the board no less than 5 times). Ironically, he's playing the kind of game management style it seemed Dorsey was trying to coax out of him last year. Cooper was a huge get. An add like that didn't seem to be part of the plan - everyone was shocked when it happened.

    As of now however, I still do not think the Bills are in a legitimate position to win a Super Bowl. People will point to our record and our regular season win over KC to shoot me down, but those accomplishment are nothing new for us. We've beaten KC in the regular season 4 years in a row with an 0-3 record against them in the playoffs over the last 4 years. We got some help with the Bengals implosion, but the Lions, Eagles and Vikings are all stacked with talent and have dominant run games, our biggest weakness, to pair with elite passing attacks and talented defenses. Our course the Chiefs are still the champs, and they have our number in the post-season until proven otherwise.

     

    Some people think being a top 4-6 team means you're in position to win it all. I don't. I don't think Minnesota, Green Bay or Pittsburgh are legitimate threats to win the SB this year, regardless of their record. Maybe that's the difference that makes people think I'm just a "hater", despite watching/listening all but one game over the last 35 years. I sure waste a lot of my own time to just to post on a message board a couple times a week.

    I'm loving the season, and I'm as high on expectations as I can possibly be, but I'm a long way from feeling like I'm dead wrong about the composition of our team, and the capability of our coaches until proven otherwise. The only bar this team has is winning a Super Bowl, so it's a bit early to start putting the crow in the oven.

    My issue with your post is I feel like your going out of your way too much to discount what they have done. That Chiefs win was a good win against an 11-1 team and it still sounds like you're not impressed. Yes, they are vulnerable, they were last year to. You sound like someone where if we win it all, you would say "yeah, but the other team had some injuries". I can see why your posts have gotten some criticism. Maybe you're right but trying to make the Chiefs sound "far" more vulnerable than last year? Last year they had the same problems. They lost 6 games. And quite frankly, I think the change in OC has been a world of difference for this team. But come on man, what we have done so far this year is insane

  12. 16 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

    I recall Dawkins yesterday mentioned Hyde needs to go upstairs to eat. He did look small. In the video below around 15 second mark, Hyde practiced against Cam Lewis (#39) and Lewis is listed 183lb. You can see the size comparison with your eyes. Maybe Hyde was not fully anticipating in coming back this season by keeping up his nutrition intake.  

     

     

    Nothing a few cupcakes and cookies can't cure

  13. 1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

     

    I don't discount that. But it's also true that if Garappolo and Purdy played at even a 75% playoff Josh Allen level the 49ers would have two Super Bowls right now. And so to me it seems that with the 49ers the QB gap has been significantly larger than the coaching gap, and with us it's been the opposite. The 49ers defense this past Super Bowl held the Chiefs to 3 points in the 1st half and then intercepted Mahomes at midfield to start the 2nd half. Can you imagine if we ever had a playoff result like that against them? We're winning by two scores at least. The problem was Purdy couldn't hit a single throw from a messy pocket. It isn't reasonable to look at that result and say "Shanahan can't beat Reid," while simultaneously looking at our result against the Chiefs in the divisional round and say "McDermott got unlucky." The Bills defensive stats in the playoffs are what they are. The goofy coaching decisions in some of our playoff losses are what they are. You can't just hand wave that all away. Eventually McDermott just has to get it done with this QB. I think it is more than reasonable to want a change if he can't get it done this season or next.

     

    I think it's much easier to say McDermott got unlucky because unlike Shanahan, McDermott has actually shown he can beat Reid in the regular season at least. And has done it 4 times. Shanahan on the other hand in regular season and Super Bowl I believe is 0-4 against him. I would say McDermott has gotten unlucky 

  14. 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    To me the point is less Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes would "fail" in Shanahan's offense. They are elite talents, while they both came into the league needing some development and got developed pretty well where they landed (Patrick on his footwork, Josh on his decision making, accuracy and exposure to complex defensive schemes), I have to believe they'd have found a way. It's that Kyle wouldn't target that type of player particularly and if he did he might have pulled the plug quickly. I don't know that Lance was ever the answer, I do know that pulling the plug on a guy after 3 games because he couldn't run your offense is kind of indicative of who Kyle is. There is no room for compromise. Not fitting his system to what his players do. You are running Kyle's scheme and you are running it the way he wants it run or, quite simply, you don't get on the field (there is a similarity to McDermott there in the sense that he has a very similar stubborn streak about guys who can't run his defense just the way he wants it executed).

     

    Kyle wants a certain profile of Quarterback and that profile is Matt Schaub, Kirk Cousins, Jimmy G and Brock Purdy. Now when he got someone of that ilk who was top class (Matt Ryan who was at his peak not quite elite but probably a top 6 Quarterback) his offense was unstoppable until he bungled away a Superbowl with playcalling. So I'm just not sure a Shanahan team would ever draft Allen or Mahomes. They'd draft a Joe Burrow if they got a shot. They might have drafted a Tua. I think they'd have drafted Lawrence (in fact he might be the best guy for this who was a real talent and would be a poster child for Shanahan). They wanted to draft Sam Darnold (by the way do not rule out them taking him back next year and giving him a legit chance to compete to start) but were out of position to do so. But a Jordan Love or a Jalen Hurts? Nah. Not gonna be his type. 

     

    And then the other point about Shanahan and a star Quarterback.... I believe it might be an explosive relationship. Because in Kyle's offense there is only room for one name in lights. And it has to be his. 

    In Shannahan's defense, Lance can't even beat out Cooper Rush for the backup job in Dallas. That has to obviously say something 

  15. 12 hours ago, Success said:

    Man, we gotta win this year.

     

    If we didn't have Josh, I almost wouldn't care.  But we're getting to a point where it's just wrong that this man - one of the ALL TIME GREATS - does not have a ring.

     

    The good news is, I almost feel like this team is more dialed in than they ever have been. Even missing guys, we have just been mauling people. I think the players want it bad

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  16. 1 hour ago, extrahammer said:

    I see a lot of takes now that a "Lions/Bills Super Bowl is the Super Bowl that America needs" and I just want to say very loudly and definitively.... F%#& THAT!!!!!

     

    I'll take the Bills in the Super Bowl against anybody, I'm not picky... Fk any team we play! Just get there and win. Ohhhh "battle of lake erie" man wtf! Who cares?! Just get the damn trophy. Why are so many of our fans falling into this narrative? I mean I guess it's kinda cool... but you know what's cooler?? Just getting to the Super Bowl and winning the damn game!!! I could not care less if it's the Eagles, Lions, Vikings, Packers, or Seahawks. Could not care any less! Get to the game and win. That's all that matters. Is a Super Bowl win against the Lions better than one against the Packers? No! A Super Bowl win against the Packers or Eagles would be much sweeter bc they've WON SUPER BOWLS BEFORE, especially the Packers. But just get to the GD game and WIN! That's all that matters and should matter. Anything else is weak sauce. 

     

    That is all. 

    F*ck yeah. Give me that Super Bowl win against Kirk Cousins and the Falcons. That would feel so legit and satisfying. God I'm excited 

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  17. 6 hours ago, US Egg said:

    Kinda hope he isn’t playing game 17.

    We're still possibly gonna fighting for the 1. Secondly, you can't keep him out week 17, and 18. The last thing we need is rustiness going into the playoffs. If we have a shot at the 1, he needs to go all the way to week 18. Even if we clinch the 1 before then, he still needs to play a half at the very least in week 18. 

  18. 30 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

    I expressed my thoughts in the other McDermott thread. But this is a really amazing feat for sure, especially considering how things were going last year. I hope he can take us to the promised land. 

     

    My answer to your question is Bill Belichick. That's it IMO. That's the only guy who is available and would walk in and we would win a Super Bowl. I hate him as much as everyone else, it's making a deal with the devil. But that's the only other answer aside from staying the course.  

    I don't think Belichick wins anywhere ever again. Brady was the best ever. Allen is a HOF talent but there is just something about Brady that I think even Rich Kotite would have got a few Super Bowls with. I think Belichick would get to the playoffs but I think he is an otherwise overrated coach. Brady would have put Arians in the HOF to if he would have got more time with him

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  19. 2 hours ago, Chugga said:

    One thing has never changed.  I love McDermott as a human being and as a coach of men.  I will never say anything bad about him as a person or as a leader.

     

    But, my opinion has changed from earlier this year.  After the Ravens and Texans loss I was admittedly pretty fired up about things.

     

    I have on a number of occasions (after coaching blunders) felt as if we had potentially hit a glass ceiling with him.  That feeling remains in the back of my mind.  But I also look at the rosters of the Eagles, Chiefs, Ravens etc and we don’t have that same level of talent but he’s consistently gotten the very best out of everyone.  I want so badly for his defense to finally click one of these years in the playoffs and have him get his signature playoff win.  It just hasn’t happened yet, most of our playoff wins feel like the Josh Allen show and our losses feel like McDermott let down the Josh Allen show.

     

    But seeing him make snow angels and watching this team completely rally behind him after last years hit piece.  I just want so badly for him to win.

     

    This is why I have said on a number of occasions, you don't make a coaching change until he loses the lockerroom. We have a good thing going here. The last thing we need is a coach here that the players don't like, don't respect and have no desire to play for. And until they give up on McDermott, I'm keeping him here

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