Buffalo03
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I still feel like they were the 2019 Bills but just overachieved. If we would have gotten past Houston, who knows what would have happened but I feel like those teams were very similar
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3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
You’re talking about teams. My sources work at the stadium who would know long before the teams because of scheduling issues and a tv network who would also know beige the teams for scheduling a major prime time holiday game.
Again, doesn’t mean my friends sources are correct or it won’t change again before schedule comes out, but both the stadium and networks would be involved along the whole process of building the schedule long before teams would know.
Okey dokey. I was just wondering
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I heard on the radio that the teams don't even get a copy of the schedule until about 2 days before it's release. So, if they don't know what the schedule is yet, how would their be source from somewhere else that knows?
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3 hours ago, StHustle said:
Im only giving credence to this because it has both the season opener Thursday LA game and Thanksgiving Lions game as previously "leaked" by another poster.
Here is the full potentially "leaked" schedule:
(Excuse some of the corny team names...I didn't write this)
This is fake as hell. A Thursday night game before a bye week. So almost a 20 day layoff in between games? No way
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He's gonna make all DBs lose confidence and become inshakir
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2 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:
I see that. Very similar size, although I’m convinced Jones’s playing weight is 180ish. He looks soooo skinny out there. The thing is with the Jones, Kamara, and big bro Cook comparisons.. I believe all three of those guys dropped in the draft because of character issues, but here we are taking our Cook too high..? That’s not a good sign, sadly.The only thing I didn't like is it did look like he was high off his ass on draft day
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Does he remind anyone else of Aaron Jones? I think they're similar with their pass catching ability and route running
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16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Did he wear #2 or #26 or both? So….Confused
Looks like 26. Or possibly both lol
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19 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:
Parham should have been the pick. This guy could have been had with one of our 6th round picks or maybe even a UDFA. There's no highlight reel for him on youtube, and no one has him listed as a day 1 starter. A real reach in the 3rd round. A true WTF pick.
Hmmm... that's weird....I found one
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11 minutes ago, gridirongold said:
They need a runner. Another Singletary..yawn
Lol. You think he's another Singletary?
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6 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:
Like the player. What is the point of collecting a bunch of 6th round picks though????
Trade back into the 4th if needed?
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The "don't draft a RB in the first round" crowd just blew a major load
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3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:
Every Buffalo media guy seems to be portraying it the other way.
Sal was again talking about it. Beane had limited 1st round players somewhere in the 18-20 range and he expected at least 1 or 2 to be available at 25.
Then they asked about RB and Beane seemed to lump them in with the next group and on his show Sal said basically if all of the 1st round talent was gone - they would look at RB, but that position would require someone with exceptional talent to exceed the positional value.
So maybe he did not come right out and say they do not have a 1st round grade, but the way he spoke and the things the various media got from interviews seem to point very highly to them thinking he is not a first round talent (He might still get drafted in the first because of the limited talent levels in this draft).
We will see - as I have said - he could take him, but I think that would be about the last thing they want to do.
I struggle to find many recent 1st round RBs that are elite and worth the pick. You don’t think the Giants are kicking themselves for picking Barkley at this point. He is way over paid for his production. The sweet spot is 2nd and 3rd round for RB because the salary is acceptable and you can run them into the ground and move on.
Many of these 1st round guys end up getting a huge second contract to justify the pick (Zeke, CMC, even Barkley got his option) and they just are not worth it.
Give me Walker in the 2nd or Cook in the 3rd and a premium position in the 1st and I am happier than Hall in the first.
But we pick 25. If Beane is saying that he only has 18-20 first round grades, then technically any player we take past that is a 2nd round talent. So, why would Hall necessarily be a reach? He isn't technically a first round pick to them at that point. And you don't see a first round RB that's been worth it? You do realize that the non production of Barkley has been because of his injuries, right? Same with McCaffery. Are you seriously telling me they aren't elite players? I would take either one of them on this team right now. You lost the argument right there, I'm sorry. And yes, I have no issue with paying an elite RB a 2nd contract. Without the injuries, Barkley and McCaffery are definitely worth it
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4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:
more ifs and buts. Well those two can’t stay healthy so I don’t include them with Henry and Taylor.
2001? you realize the game, its players and coaches have evolved over 20 years right? Even if stodgy old takes like yours don’t.
I completely understand that the game has evolved. But that is irrelevant to the fact that if there is a guy that can turn into a Tomlinson type talent, he should be drafted in the first round if that's the way we feel about him. I mean, I couldn't imagine a GM saying "man, that guy could be the next LT but the NFL has evolved more, let's skip him". It's irrelevant. He doesn't need 400 carries, but I'd still rather have a Tomlinson type talent get 15-20 touches a game than Singletary and Moss
4 hours ago, newcam2012 said:Imagine the offense with a speed burner receiver. The RB game would be just that much better. I want that ball in Allen's arms slinging the ball not handing it off or checking down.
He can't throw it every play though and when he does hand it off, I want someone that can break a 60 yard TD run. Not Singletary or Moss
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25 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
I'm not saying the RB position isn't an important piece to an offense. However, Fournette played well because of Brady's elite passing threat and a great Oline. Let's face it Fournette is anything but elite. Without Brady he's probably average. Same goes for CEH. He hasn't really done much and many Chiefs fans wish they would have drafted a CB instead. The Rams have a very good running game under coach McVey. Look how good Gurley looked.
I stand by my statement that the Bills offense doesn't need a Breece Hall. Give Allen a better Oline and a speed burner receiver. Motor and the running back by committee will do just fine. Motor looked very good when the Bills Oline changed their blocking scheme, committed to the run, and the Oline improved. I'm a big no to Hall at 25!
Nice post. A reality check here.
Beane never said he didn't think Hall was a first round talent and I would gladly take a Fournette type player on this offense. He isn't elite but he isn't a slouch either. But he's just one player. Look at all the other RBs that have gone first round and had incredible careers. I do think that a dynamic RB takes this offense to the next level. It's the one piece it's missing. Imagine the opposing defense having to gameplan against, Allen, Diggs and a dynamic RB.
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6 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:
I’ll root for anyone the Bills pick in any round. Doesn’t mean I need to believe they were optimal picks.The 2 best running backs in the league right now were 2nd round picks btw.
Not if you don't have McCaffrey as part of those 2. He may get hurt a lot but he's still top 2 easily when healthy. And if Barkley could stay healthy, he'd be top 5
4 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:
Because even the Bills GM has confirmed that he does not think Hall is a first round talent.
When asked about positional value and a RB and this draft - the answer was we only have about 20 1st round grades in this draft.
Then he went on to say that with positional value - if all of those picks are gone - it would take a phenomenal athlete at RB to overcome the lack of value in that pick to match up to other positions. Basically he would draft a RB in the 1st round, but that player would need to be exceptionally talented and all other positions with first round grades would need to be gone.
But again, my point is, even if he was that good, people would want to skip drafting him because of position. Not because of talent. And by the way, Tomlinson was actually considered somewhat overrated by some draft gurus back in 2001 when he came out of TCU. As they can see, he wasn't overrated at all
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16 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:
Well yeah you can play the woulda shoulda game 5 years down the line with any number of guys of all positions that the team passed over; that’s not limited to running backs.
The people you’re criticizing and calling “stupid” are looking at draft and comparative potential value based on position, need, draft history, etc. It’s something you don’t seem to be interested in or capable of doing.
I'm not calling anyone stupid. I just hate that we can pass on a possible Tomlinson, Barkley, McCaffery, Elliott type player because people think it wouldn't be any different than a RB we can get in the 3rd round. If they believe he can be that good, everyone should be on board with drafting him
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4 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:
well see that would require the ability to predict the future and if any of us could do that this thread wouldn’t be 63 pages and counting. You can’t make a honest comparison of the “calibers” of a guy just coming out of college and a HOF running back.Then why not be open to drafting that position is my point? Come on think. It's written off because it's RB. But if they truly feel that he is the best player there or he is who they want at that spot then take him. You don't know if he will be a HOF or not but I'd certainly hate to say 5 years from now "hmmm, you know, it would have been great draft that pro bowl RB we had a chance on but passed on simply because he's a RB". It's just stupid.
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6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
God now we have people talking about trading up for him ***** can the draft get here already
I'm not saying we should trade up for him. But I have no issue with it if he could be on the caliber of a HOF RB
Just now, newcam2012 said:LT is a hall a famer. The comparasion is ridiculous.
I'm not comparing him to Tomlinson. That's basically saying that I think he's on that level, what I'm saying is, if a RB of that caliber was in this draft and people wanted to pass him up in round 1 simply because he's a RB then it makes no sense
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9 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
The game has vastly changed over the years. It's now clearly a passing league. The run game has become secondary and just needs to be good enough to be serviceable and keep the defense honest. Elite Qbs don't need elite rbs to win games and hoist the Lombardi Trophy. Just look at KC and Tampa for evidence. A superior Oline is vastly more important than RB in todays game. QB, Oline, Dline,....., somewhere near the bottom is RB. Look at Tennessee, Clev.,and New England for evidence that an good RBs aren't enough. The Bills don't need Hall or any other running back to go to the Super Bowl. Last year, the RB position didn't hinder the Bills in the playoffs. In fact, one can argue the opposite. Let's stop this silly Hall pick. No way no how do the Bills pick Hall at 25.
I understand that the game has changed but that's completely irrelevant to the fact that if Breece Hall could be the next LaDainian Tomlinson that we shouldn't draft him in the first round or even trade up for him if he's that good. Let's be real, a RB of that Caliber basically makes our offense unstoppable. That's the one spot I think our offense still lacks
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4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
Right because we are all experts and know for 100% there is no top tier RB in this class right?
I'm not saying any of these RBs are on that level. But I also think there is a clear difference between Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson and guys you would draft in the third round. Most of the people that think you shouldn't draft a RB in the first round seem to think all RBs are interchangeable. Even RBs picked in the first round the last 5 years like McCaffrey, Elliott, Barkley etc...are way better than Singletary or Moss. Like the mindset of "let's just draft Peyton Barber in round 6 since it won't make any difference", I don't understand
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On 4/25/2022 at 8:19 AM, SoTier said:
That wasn't Nix. He might have been on the Bills staff at that time, but it was Brandon and Jauron running the draft in 2009. Jauron loved smurfs on defense because they were supposed to be faster (I still remember watching Bills LBs regularly being dragging downfield by RBs). IIRC, Maybin had straight line speed even at 240 lbs (which was like 30+ lbs more than his playing weight at PSU) but he didn't have much agility so he couldn't develop the kinds of moves that lighter edge rushers use to get to QBs.
I remember hearing a report about how Eric Wood who was in the same draft as Maybin, went against Maybin in practice that training camp and he knocked him on his ass and told him to "get the f**k up and earn his money". I found it pretty hysterical
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On 4/25/2022 at 12:21 AM, Motorin' said:
JP Losman, especially considering it cost us the next year's 1st round pick while Aaron Rodgers was still available.
I bring this up to my friend all the time. The fact that all we had to do was just go one more year and hold on to our 2005 pick and Aaron Rodgers would have fell right into our lap. Literally, not even a trade up
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Just curious to all the "never draft a RB in the first round" people, if LaDainian Tomlinson was coming out in this draft, would he be worthy of a first round pick to you all? Possibly even a trade up candidate?
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Just go with a draft lottery, it fixes the problem. It can be done like this
Lottery 1: Teams 1-5
Lottery 2: Teams 6-10
Lottery 3: Teams 11-18
All playoff teams 19-32 continue to be ordered based on playoff finish just like current system
The current system incentivizes losing