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9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Rodak: Bills remain confident in Zay Jones despite rookie's 'humbling' season
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Buffalo Bills wide receiver Zay Jones is tied with Los Angeles Rams receiver Cooper Kupp in having played 712 snaps this season, seventh-most among rookies who play on offense.
But the disparity in production between the two has been striking. Kupp, a third-round pick, has 62 catches for 869 yards and five touchdowns. Jones, a second-round pick, has 25 catches for 291 yards and two touchdowns.
It has been an underwhelming season for the Bills' 32nd-ranked passing offense, and Jones' disappointing performance has been just one part of the losing equation for offensive coordinator Rick Dennison.
Two words:
Tyrod Taylor
6 minutes ago, Luka said:The Tyrod trust still hasn't learned it's lesson. Receivers leave Buffalo for better QBs and produce hand over fist what they produced here. People couldn't wait to run Goodwin and Woods out of town.
Whoops.Remember how well Hogan played and how everyone had a fit?
Ironically the guy that looks the same as he did in Buffalo is Watkins, who wouldn't know a route tree from a hat tree.
Woods? I think most people liked Woods.
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6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Hmmm. This seems Billsy to me. They are 5-10. They played a last place schedule. They weren’t complete trash like Cleveland but they weren’t good. No idea if they are headed in the right direction. They spent a 2nd on Hackenberg and 2 years later he still hadn’t taken a snap. They drafted Petty before that and he’s nowhere. How do the Jets know these guys can evaluate a QB? I will give them credit for mccown looking better than expected. But the drafting has been underwhelming and I think Bowles is pretty bad. They surpassed expectations but that’s because expectations were rock bottom. Jmo.
Exactly. I think them staying is good for the Bills.
4 hours ago, Gugny said:I think this was a really good move by the Jets.
The revolving door - as we all know - does not work.
Bowles has earned this extension.
Earned it by having one of the worst teams in the league?
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15 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:
closes very well.
nose for ball.
lets see how he holds up and how is used, assuming he will be BIlls next season
I meant reaching in that the OP said the coaches were wrong for not starting him the whole year. Milano is awesome, but it took him some time to get there. The coaches were not wrong to work him in slowly.
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2 hours ago, SaviorPeterman said:
Matt STUD-lano should have been starting all season. Yet another questionable personnel and evaluation move by this regime:
Reaching big time. Milano looked lost early in the season, and clearly progressed to where he is now.
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8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Isn't it interesting that Marrone teams all seem to have these excellent defenses that he has "nothing to do with". Maybe he fundamnetally understand that you have to impact the Quarterback in this league and hires coordinators and constructs defenses capable of achieving that? Eventually something stops being a coincidence.
I am not surprised the Jags have done well. Doug Marrone is a good Head Coach. I thought so when he was here too having originally been lukewarm to his hiring. He is a dislikeable arse of a man. But he is a good Head Coach. He made some micro management mistakes here that listening to the folks over in Jacksonville he seems to have learned from with Tom Coughlin's guidance.
I disagree. Marrone inherited his team in Jacksonville. They have been drafting high end talent for their defense for a few years now, and that has nothing to do with Doug.
If he has learned to hire good coaches and get out of the way, he is going to have success there, because when he is the one micromanaging the offense or the oline, it turns out pretty bad.
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On 12/27/2017 at 6:48 PM, KelsaysLunchbox said:
ALSO, if it breaks like I have predicted...does Doug Marrone get any kind of forgiveness for walking out on the Bills Mafia?
Marrone is just not a likable person. He is a big baffoon. I was glad he left. He is supposed to be an offensive coach and the offense was terrible. He is supposed to be an oline guru and the oline was terrible. We only got to 9 wins because of the excellent defense (which he had nothing to do with) and because the Pats rested their starters week 17. Good riddance. Although I am surprised the Jags have done so well ...
JAX - 24
TEN - 17
LAC - 31
OAK - 20
CIN - 23
BAL - 19
BUF - 23
MIA - 9
11 hours ago, zow2 said:I will say this,,, no way does Jax want to be swept by Tennessee and then have to play Tenn in the first round. They would like to eliminate the Titans now.
The Chargers will probably handle the Raiders at home. I'd like to think Oakland will show up but i just think LA is better and won't let this one slip.
Cinci still has remnants from their playoff teams and they aren't that bad. They beat Detroit last week who had everything to play for. They traditionally play the Ravens tough in Baltimore and they will try to win Marvin Lewis' last game. I like Cinci's chances.
I agree with all of this. No way Jax would want a division rival in the playoffs with them.
Best chance is for Cinci to beat Ravens. I'm sure they would love to hurt their playoff chances.
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8 hours ago, pimp on da' net said:
These guys were signed by Whaley, NOT Beane but please continue...
You honestly think that? Whaley did what McDermott wanted. McDermott was clearly running the show.
3 hours ago, pimp on da' net said:The point I was trying to make is the HC gives the GM the type of player(s) needed to make his system successful. The GM still has to agree & go acquire the player...Now the problem would have been if DW didn't agree with the coach & acquired a totally different skill set. This shows that these decisions are more a collaborative thing instead of a dictatorship...thanks for the link.
GM- Is the talent evaluator
HC- Coaches the talent the GM acquires
Normally yes, but this was a unique situation where the club was planning to move on from the GM, so McDermott had much more control than normal. Whaley had very little say in what happened, and I am sure that whatever he DID do had to be signed and stamped for approval by McDermott.
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3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Does LaFell draw the #1 CB each week? Nope, that's AJ Green. There is no comparison. LaFell has 50 catches for 513 yards and 3 TDs Watkins has 39 catches for 593 yards with 8 TDs
Not an impressive year for a #1 WR by any stretch of the imagination.
Watkins is not nearly as good as some make him out to be. He certainly isn't elite, and my guess is he never will be.
3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:Similar? No. Watkins has 80 more yards and 5 more TDs on 11 less catches and 15 less targets. He's created 33 1st downs to 23 for LaFell. It's not even close and Watkins draws the assignment of the #1 CB each week often with Safety help. You should stop.
All of which makes Sammy an average WR in the NFL. Good for him.
The good WR's can deal with a #1 CB and safety help and still put up yards and TD's.
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Pretty clear that Tyrod cannot be the QB to build around. We can't continue to be bottom 3 in passing and expect to contend.
But, he is the perfect bridge QB until we find our franchise guy. He can make just enough plays to help win a game, and takes care of the football, and also is elusive and can make plays with his feet.
I wouldn't even be against him starting next year if the Bills get a guy to sit and learn and show that they are legitimately going all in to address the position.
I can't imagine McDermott and Beane won't be trying. They seem like smart enough guys and clearly they have shown that they know Tyrod's numerous limitations. This is why they started Peterman for that game. Their hands are tied on offense because of how limited Tyrod is in the passing game.
I'd be happy with FA Cousins or any 1st round QB.
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Worst in years? There have been plant of pickups that have done far less, or some that have even retired without playing a snap (Boldin).
Still, he sucks and I don't want to see him on the field. When they gave him the ball on 2nd and like 20 and he got stuffed for no game I couldn't believe the play call.
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All the playoff implication games happening at the same time. That's going to be a crazy 3 hours next week.
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I doubt he is thinking about the Bills at all when making such a decision.
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The article says Spiller is out of the league because of injuries, haha. That's not true.
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That call should have stood. Not conclusive evidence to overturn by any stretch of the imagination.
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You mean to tell me that an elite, Superbowl winning, possibly hall of fame QB would make the Bills a contender?!
You don't say ...
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10 hours ago, Badthingsman said:
We are going to beat the Pats. Then we will lose to the Dolphins and miss the playoffs. This is the Buffalo Bills and that is how things go down. They Rip your freaking heart out. Can't take anymore pain. Can't. No more pain. For the love of God.
Seriously? Stop making useless threads.
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On 12/21/2017 at 4:11 PM, BigDingus said:
Are you kidding?
Would you have liked to have Drew Brees as your QB for the past 6 years? If the answer is yes, he is 39 right now. QB's play a LOT longer now. If a good QB that's 33 becomes available, you take him!People that like Tyrod always talk about how he's a game manager & protects the ball & spin his ridiculously low numbers as if they're some sort of accomplishment.
Alex Smith is an actual game manager that has the ability to do far more. He's better in every conceivable way except running the ball, and even then he's a good dual threat QB & runs quite often.267 yards per game, 3,738 yards, 67.8% completion percentage, 25 TDs & 5 Ints. 105.4 Passer Rating. Yeah, who would want that when you could have 178 yards per game, 2,314 yards, 62.8% completion percentage, 13 TDs, 4 Ints, & 89.1 Passer Rating?
Drew Brees is a future hall of famer. Most QB's don't play until they are 39. Alex Smith does not have that many more good years in him, and he has always been only an above average QB anyway.
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People are making threads about any tiny little thought that jumps into their heads. It is getting pretty annoying.
You think people DON'T realize you need a QB to succeed?
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I'll go the unpopular route:
Tyrod Taylor. His last season with the Bills as a bridge QB for whomever the Bills draft.
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Seattle gets fines all the time for bending the rules.
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This team has never played the Pats for a second time. Almost none of the players are back, and all of the coaches are different.
I fail to see how stats from more than a decade ago have anything to do with this team.
21 hours ago, Jerry Jabber said:“Nothing” except a lot of losses and by a wider margin. Coincidence or bad luck? It’s obvious the Patriots are doing things to have better results in the second matchup. Different players, different coaches, different schemes, same results.
What's obvious is that the Bills haven't been good and the Patriots have.
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1 hour ago, Long Time Bills Fan said:
I'll re iterate what I posted the other day: he is rude and, IMO, just not that good (where he can get away with being rude). As a radio host, I THINK the idea of the show is to gather various points of view and then ask rhetorical questions and/or to position alternate considerations for discussion. NOT to dismissively blaze on callers or to paint D. Jones into a corner because he used a term (Billsy) that you for some unknown reason take huge exception to.
I've never heard of a radio show like that. Have you? Radio show hosts usually spout whatever they like, and are often extremely rude. Why? Because many callers are completely nuts and they get sick of it.
Donald Jones does a great job of painting himself into a corner all the time. 50% of what he says is literally word for word what John Murphy said 2 seconds earlier, and the other half is talking about things like "swag", TD dances, and banter with current or former players. (In his defense he has gotten slightly better)
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I'd say if you lose by multiple scores, that's a pretty convincing loss in the NFL.
But for this Bills team and regime, this is their first time playing in Foxboro. We'll see how they do.
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He is 33 years old. I don't want that.
Rodak: Bills Remain Confident in Zay Jones
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I don't think it is possible for a WR to underperform when Tyrod Taylor is your QB. Woods was at least a great blocking WR. There were many stretches of games where Woods was our only threat at WR (because Watkins was always hurt), and he produced.
I wish him well and hope he continues to succeed. I hope Watkins flops, though.