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Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:
We’re severely underestimating Samuel.
Samuel is going to probably be a 80 catch 1000 yard WR for us.
Yeah, and I expect him to be moved around a lot. Not an exclusive outside guy, or slot guy.
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
WR3 over who?
Not necessarily over anyone. But he would be an outside receiver while Shakir and Samuel both take a lot of slot targets. And Samuel probably has the gadget and screen play targets too.
But I'm not advocating for Zay Jones. I don't really want to sign him.
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1 minute ago, Logic said:
Obviously I want my franchise QB to have input, and I'm very glad they let him weigh in on his preferences.
That said...Josh has admitted that he doesn't watch "tape" on these guys or break it down with coaches or anything. He watches Youtube highlight reels, like the rest of us.
I hope -- I really, sincerely hope -- that Josh Allen's preferences don't outweigh all the months of hard work by the scouting department, or all the information, scouting reports, and analytics that Beane has it his dosposal.
And just in case anyone feels like "welp, this is who Josh wanted, so I'm good with it", we should always remember that Josh wanted Ken Dorsey to be his OC, and it arguably cost the Bills two seasons of championship contention.Allen doesn't seem like the kind who is demanding anything. Just giving his input. And it can go both ways. Beane can tell him, "Here are the receivers we like, and this is why." It is a collaborative process, I'm sure.
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3 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:
He had one year where he had issues with drops from what I see. Bills won’t sign him regardless, but to say he wouldn’t improve the WR room is silly.
I think he would be a WR 3 or 4 here.
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5 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:
Make fun of him all you want but his 2022 season is better than any Bills WR currently on roster. I don’t think his skill set is what we need to fill out out WR room though. We need an OBJ, MVS, or Chark deep threat type.
5 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:Zay was pretty solid for the Jags. Not worthy of his outrageous contract, but still solid. 2022 was a better year statistically than any year than Samuel had. 2023 he was on par for a repeat of 2022 until he was injured.
Thanks Captain Insight.
Solid, but a lot of drops. I think Beane is over that. He moved on from Diggs and Davis who both had drop issues last year, and brought in Coleman who has excellent hands.
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4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
I mean, Josh may have said he wanted Coleman, but it was likely in some context - "we predict these 3 guys will go in the top 10 and we're not going to mortgage this draft and the next to move up there, even if we could which is not certain. We think these 6-7 guys will be within reach of our #28 pick, do you have a take?"
I doubt Allen's ranking would move the Bills draft board, but if there were 2 guys they were close on it might have influenced.Yeah, exactly. Allen didn't tell them before the draft there is one single WR he wants and it is Coleman. It was more like, who out of these 3 or 4 receivers (Worthy, Legette, McConkey, and Coleman perhaps) would Allen like the best, and Allen said Coleman, but I'm sure he was fine with a number of receivers.
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41 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:
Yes, he would be the 2nd best WR on the roster.
Really? I prefer Shakir and Samuel over him. And Coleman needs to come in and develop and get playing time, and I would think he would show he is better too.
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13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
That's great that you think that. But that's not how the NFL works. It's like a fan saying they think a Guard can be converted to a Tackle, or a Nickel can be converted to a Boundary CB, a DT can be a Pass Rusher, a CB can be a Safety, etc.
Tyler Boyd has taken 81% of his total career snaps out of the Slot. And that's a swayed number as he did it a lot more in earlier seasons before they realized he wasn't suited for the role and has exclusively worked and succeeded from the Slot ever since.
He's even more of a Slot than Samuel is. Shakir is not an Outside WR either. Everyone wants to say he can play the role, but when we put him there in a pinch in the Playoffs when we were thin - he didn't produce.
He did it earlier because they have Higgins and Chase now. So Boyd was pushed down the depth chart.
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13 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
It won't be Tyler Boyd. Or Hunter Renfrow for that matter.
The hole is on the Perimeter. Boyd is a PURE Slot. We have more than we need there with Samuel, Shakir, and Kincaid. Adding Boyd would just crowd that room more and remove reps from all those guys - while still leaving a gaping hole on the Outside needing to be filled.
I disagree. I think Boyd can play outside and inside just like Shakir. He has the size.
If it isn't Boyd, I wouldn't even bother with any of the other receivers. They are all JAGs. Just roll with what we have outside of potentially adding camp bodies.
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Keep crying. It doesn't do any good. McDermott and Beane are completely safe. They are both well respected around the league. They have built a great franchise that wins tons of games, including winning playoff games. And they unfortunately haven't gotten over the KC Mahomes hump, nor has anyone else, really. They'll have another crack at it this year, and for the foreseeable future.
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2 minutes ago, FireChans said:
I guess that leaves just Tyler Boyd for me.
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Yannick Ngakoue or Bud Dupree would be nice. Similar to the Floyd signing last offseason.
Of the receivers, only Tyler Boyd or Corey Davis move the needle much for me. Some are saying Boyd is only a slot, but I could see him and Shakir rotate outside and inside. They both have the capability of playing both. Boyd is 6'2". He can play outside.
I don't think we need to sign veterans at the other positions you mentioned.
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2 hours ago, Logic said:
I expect a big rebound season from Kelce (you're a pretty awesome player when 984 yards and 5 TDs marks a "down year" for you, btw).
Hollywood and Worthy are gonna open a lottt of things up for Kelce in the middle of the field. I also think that whatever injury and romance distraction nonsense happened last season will likely be in the past.
He is and will continue to be the de facto number 1 pass catcher in KC for the foreseeable future.I don't think so. He is older and slowing down, in my opinion.
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Do the Chiefs have a good QB? Do you know what their style of offense was last year? Take what the defense gave them in the passing game, and run it a lot.
Defenses are dropping into coverage and forcing offenses to take the underneath stuff. They are forcing offenses to be patient.
You are behind on offensive and defensive trends. It isn't 2019 anymore. The best offenses are running the ball more and putting bigger bodies on the field.
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6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:
I wouldn't worry about that. Coleman can do exactly what Gabe Davis did. He'll learn. The Bills have the blueprint and an elite QB in place to develop Keon the same way as Davis, but Keon has more upside.
I agree. I think a lot of us were looking for a potential #1 receiver. Someone who could be elite. I'm guessing the Bills didn't see any of these receivers in the draft becoming that, outside of the top guys who got taken.
So, they found a guy who could replace Gabe Davis. A big bodied guy who can work the deep and intermediate areas of the field. But he has WAY better hands, better athleticism, and can develop into a better route runner too.
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From what I can gather, he wasn't always put in positions to succeed there. They were running screens with him. Like, what? Also throwing prayers up to him when double or triple covered or when the defender has established leverage. There were consistently under thrown balls to him, causing more contested catch situations than needed (and having to wait for a ball and the defender getting back in the play makes it harder for a receiver than just a normal 50/50 ball).
I actually think he might do much better in the pros with a much better QB throwing to him and not being the focal point of the offense. Of course, he'll also be going up against better talent, but I expect he will be used more appropriately than he was in college.
1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:If this was meant to make me feel better um it didn't. Watching college level DBs turn and run with him with ease is frightening. He looks so slow on go routes.
I don't think that is where he will excel in the NFL.
Hopefully his go to route will be the 15-20 yard cross and out. That was a Davis staple and one of his drops last season that ended up as an Allen INT.
Well yeah, why was he running go routes all the time? I think he was mismanaged in college. They had him doing everything, including a lot of things that played to his weaknesses, not strengths.
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I would have taken Legette at 32. I would have taken McConkey at 33 if we still do the trade down to 33.
But what do I know? Not much.
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I don't watch college football. I don't watch film. I look at mock drafts and player rankings. I look at measurables like height and weight, 40 time, and other combine results. I then watch highlights and breakdowns from other people. That's how I fashion my opinions.
I don't have any delusions that I know more than anyone, especially the professionals. I think a lot of fans do about the same as I do and then somehow develop these extreme opinions with massive conviction. That's what I don't get. They haven't done the work to warrant such strong opinions.
There are a few here who do watch some film and actually evaluate the players. I respect their opinions more, but they are still doing it only at a hobby level.
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Just a question about your picks that are the same as the Bills: were you actually hoping for those players when the Bills picked them, or did you decide you liked the pick afterward and decided you preferred the Bills pick over what you wanted at the time?
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Dang it! We didn't sign Jerry Rice in his prime??? Beane is trying to destroy the Bills and all goodness in this world!
Although, Rice ran a 4.71 40. So, he probably WOULD sign such a bum.
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Mecole Hardman would be decent. He certainly has the speed.
I've always liked Tyler Boyd, but he is the same type of receiver Shakir is. However, you could move them around and they could both line up outside and inside. That might be interesting.
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PFF: B-
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams#BUF
USA Today: B
AP News: B
https://apnews.com/article/nfl-draft-grades-2024-334ef0dd263c4a7fc8d0c4c8e300e730
Sports Illustrated: C-
https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/04/27/2024-nfl-draft-team-grades-analysis
Looks like some of the other major sites haven't released team grades yet, I guess.
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59 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:
Yea Josh was on board because Diggs is selfish #######
Even if they drafted a 4th round rookie how does that make up for losing diggs? It doesn’t. We will figure it out by committee and running the ball this year.
Diggs sucked by the end of the year. Diggs also sucked in every single playoff elimination game. For being a superstar, he never showed up in the playoffs. He was an afterthought in the offense for half the season. It doesn't take much to replace the version of him we had last year.
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RG3 Interview with Keon Coleman
in The Stadium Wall
Posted
RG3 kind of seems fake to me. Not a fan. But Coleman was good. He seems focused and mature.