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9 hours ago, SWATeam said:
Many young QB's tend to be. Takes a little while to feel comfortable sitting back there going through progressions. Allen has been impressive to me so far in that regard.
I think Darnold is going to be good. This QB class is the future, IMO.
Actually, I think most young QBs taken in the first round tend to air it out in preseason because they think they can beat NFL secondaries like they did collegiate ones.
Darnold seems reminiscent of another USC QB drafted by the Jests in the first round: Mark Sanchez.
It's a bit early to declare this QB a great one. The 2012 class was supposed to be so great, too, with Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin, Ryan Tannehill, and Brandon Weeden going in the first round, but if it hadn't been for the three QBs taken in the third and fourth rounds -- Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, and Kirk Cousins -- 2012 would have been just another average QB class.
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4 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
And you can find NO signs that this regime is different?
I'd say that's more a you problem than a Bills problem.
McDermott is probably the best HC the Bills have had since Chuck Knox. I think the Bills would have a Lombardi if he'd been the HC against the Giants rather than Marv Levy despite going against Parcells (and his evil assistant, DC Bill Belichick).
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1 minute ago, eball said:
You're harboring a lot of unhealthy baggage, my man. You need to loosen up and enjoy what's going on.
Which is why when the Bills devolve into their usual sucky selves on offense, I bail. It's why I no longer have seasons. I never walked out early of a Bills game until the Jauron era. They were unwatchable. Sometimes the Bills since then have been almost as bad.
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1 minute ago, joesixpack said:
And this is what I was talking about.
For this guy, there can be no light at the end of the tunnel other than an oncoming train.
With the Bills, that seems to be how things work ... and have worked since Bill Polian packed his bags about a quarter of a century ago.
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16 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
That's at least partly reasonable. But they certainly CAN NOT be worse than the offense was last year. I think they'll turn the ball over more, but it will be a side-effect of actually passing the ball. But I think the net result will be a better offense overall, even in week 1.
And so far as the defense goes, I bet it will improve over last year as well. So, to my mind if both the offense AND defense improve, the team's record should as well.
ROTFLMAO! The offense CAN certainly be worse than the offense was last year! Maybe you don't remember the offenses under Dick Jauron in 2008 and 2009, but I do. Those offensive offenses make the 2017 Bills look like a juggernaut.
While the Bills showed lots of passing in Preseason Game 1, there's no guarantee that they'll continue to be a passing team in the regular season ... or that the OL will perform even close to its 2017 level ... or that any of the QBs are competent NFL starters ... or that injury won't take out Shady or Clay or Benjamin ... or all three.
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17 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:
It's unfortunate that Zay is most known for the dropped pass vs Carolina, and that he was not on the same page as Tyrod on the route. I'm optimistic that Zay will start to gain more confidence at the position and end up having a good season.
The problem with this explanation is that Zay didn't just drop that one pass in the Carolina game. He dropped numerous passes throughout the season. He failed to regain any confidence all last season, so why do you think he will magically regain it in 2018? I'm not saying he won't, but I do question why you are so sure that he will.
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1 hour ago, eball said:
The Pegulas have made a number of mistakes, and they'd admit it themselves. It takes a an awfully dark-minded, cold perspective not to see the positive trend for both organizations at this point, however.
Sorry, but the Pegulas lost me as a supporter when they not only kept Russ Brandon as president of the Bills, but promoted him to head honcho of both the Bills and Sabres. Brandon's claim to fame before coming to the Bills was the dismantling of the MLB Florida Marlins the season after they won the WS ... but increasing profitability by cutting payroll. Brandon's record as Bills' boss was all of 2 winning seasons in the last 12 years and 1 lucky playoff appearance while keeping the Bills notably profitable. That merits a promotion only if profitability counts more than winning.
I'll believe that the Bills have made winning rather than profits their top priority when I see them start winning regularly ... and so many of their best players aren't going off to help NE, New Orleans, Seattle, and Philadelphia win Super Bowls because the Bills wouldn't pay them what they were worth.
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15 minutes ago, MJS said:
No, it would really do all of us a favor, including yourself, if you just went away and stopped following the Bills.
Why do you feel that you have the right to speak for all the members of TBD? This is a message board, not a propaganda site for the Bills, and posters have the right to express their opinions even if they are critical of the Bills. If you don't like that, then you should follow your own advice about leaving. You are out of line.
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31 minutes ago, Gugny said:
That's not me tearing down making the playoffs. It's me saying that, even though the Bills made the playoffs, I hated the season, as a whole.
It wasn't a fun season for me to watch. Our QB was pathetic, as was our defense (with the exception of the backfield). Our rookie WR couldn't catch a cold. The O line decided they didn't feel like playing vs. San Diego. The season was a mess.
Yes - I enjoyed watching the Bengals get the Bills into the playoffs. I even cried a little. Then we got to see Blake Bortles do a really nice Barry Sanders impersonation a week later in a pathetic loss.
So I hope you can understand where I'm coming from. The team was painful to watch most weeks, but it was nice that we played in a post-season game.
This is what too many Bills fans don't see or refuse to acknowledge. The 2017 team was very flawed, and making the playoffs was due partly to McDermott's coaching (keeping the team from imploding in mid-season and maximizing its opportunities) but mostly to sheer good luck. They could have easily been a 5 or 6 win team last year, and even then, they needed the Ravens pass defense to suffer a brain fart and enable Andy Dalton to throw a winning TD pass in the closing minutes of the final game of the season that put the Bills in the playoffs.
The playoffs were "fun" but they hardly portended anything dynastic; too many usually good AFC teams had off-years, opening the WCs to teams with only 9 wins, which is pretty unusual.
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12 minutes ago, eball said:
Is this post satire? I hope it's satire.
I wish it was, but it's how I feel, and it's going to take several years to determine who's right or wrong. Certainly the Pegulas' ownership of the Sabres hasn't produced success since the team has missed the playoffs seven straight years.
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1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:
The Bills go 9-7 and break the drought and all of a sudden Beane, McDermott and Allen are the next Levy, Polian, and Kelly?
This has been my exact problem with all the cheerleaders this off-season/pre-season. I am very skeptical about most of the personnel moves the Bills have made in 2017 and 2018, primarily because too many of them seem to be in the same short-sighted philosophy of sending proven vets packing rather than pay them that has plagued the Bills since at least John Butler and AJ Smith departed for California. As a Bills fan for more than fifty years and a former season ticket holder, I'm no longer willing to give any HC or GM/HC combo or owner a free pass without concrete results for more than a single season. The Bills have conned their fanbase too many times in the past, so I'll believe that the current regime has a formula for winning regularly when double digit wins, playoff appearances, and playoff wins happen frequently rather than maybe once every two decades.
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1 minute ago, teef said:
are you kidding me? there will always be those one or two people, but i think overall most fans held it in the same regard. do you realize that you're the same, over the top, zealous poster, but just on the negative side? while "fanboys" as you like to call them can't/won't admit any wrong doing by this staff, we have you who refuses to acknowledge any positive that has happened. you don't even realize it, but you're just as bad as they are. you love to be down. it's who you are as a person, and that's ok. i personally don't get it, but it's certainly your right.
let's try something...i'd like you to say something positive about this team or staff.
That's easy. I think that McDermott is an excellent HC. His teams are well disciplined, and he gets the most out of the talent he has.
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29 minutes ago, teef said:
this thread is just strange. i don't think i saw any poster go over the top positive after the first preseason game. why in the world would anyone? if anything, i think people saw an offense that looked somewhat effective, and we saw a rookie qb, who many are expecting to be garbage, look fairly competent with some flashes of wow. that's it.
i'm with the crowd that preseason means absolutely nothing, but as mentioned, when the bills offense has looked terrible in the preseason, it looks the same at the beginning of that season. when it has looked competent, that's also carried over. seeing a good performance in a preseason game isn't a predictor, but it's better to see than a train wreck. the same people who are complaining about optimism are the same ones who would be gloating after a terrible performance.
You obviously choose to ignore what doesn't fit your narrative. Below is the first post in this thread.
QuoteAfter seeing the game last week, I saw enough to be VERY optimistic about 2018. Our passing game is completely different. Daboll has installed New England's offense and he is a real strong play-caller. We might be a passing team now. I believe we will score a lot of points this year. If we can find a pass rush (GET HEALTHY MURPH!), I think we will challenge New England for the division title and win 11 games.
As such, I do not want to play the quarterback who gives us the best chance to win in 2019! Let this thing play out and take the guy who gives us the best chance to win THIS year, no matter who that is. In other words, if Allen plays the best, let him start. But don't force him into the lineup because he has a cannon for an arm. His time will come (or maybe it won't).
I really think we have something here people! Daboll is god, or maybe better.
I think declaring Daboll god just might qualify as a poster going "over the top positive after the first preseason game" but maybe that's just me being my usual negative self.
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6 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:
I think I'm generally, but not entirely... pessimistic.
1) I think much of our offensive success hinges on the performance of our O-line. And, I think they are suspect. Could easily be well below average. It's hard to come up with a reason why they wouldn't be worse than they were last season.
2) I think, along with our O-line, much of our Qb success (regardless of who starts) hinges on the success of our receiving corps. And, they may be the worst in the league, even with a healthy KB (and, his health (knees) is also a reason for concern). Take KB out of the picture (again, not unlikely), and our WR corp IS one, if not THE worst in the league.
3) There is plenty of reason to doubt that Allen will develop into a viable, NFL-ready starter this season. Just about everyone thought he was a raw talent coming out of college. Nothing he has done has swayed that opinion. Also, there were more than a few pundits who projected him as a bust. While his latest preseason performance gave us all reason to be optimistic, one preseason game is certainly not enough to simply overturn those predictions.
4) Our running backs are old, and if our O-line isn't at the very least equal to last year (see #1 above), there is no reason to believe Shady will be as productive as he was last year.
5) All of a sudden, we seem to be shallow in the defensive backfield. There has been an assumption that the tandem of White/Davis was elite. Now, after PS game#1, that is in question.
6) Line backers. Edmunds is a star in the making, sure. But, he's 20. And, what else have we done to upgrade our linebackers?
7) In the likely event that McD does not feel that Josh Allen is ready to start the season, we are left with the choice between AJ McCarron, and Nate Peterman. THAT is not good.
Or... maybe I'm just being a TROLL.
How dare you NOT blindly jump on the Beane/McDermott bandwagon! You are definitely a TROLL!
2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:Captain Buzzkill: didn’t we have a preseason game against Pittsburgh where Tyrod and EJ looked like the best passers on the planet? The preseason is pretty much meaningless. Teams don’t gameplan and play very simple coverages.
What do you mean by "meaningless"? Didn't the Browns go 4-0 last preseason?
If all these Bills cheerleaders watched some of the other preseason games on the NFL network, they'd see that most of the teams expected not to be playoff contenders probably looked "better than expected". Most of the QBs who played in Preseason Game 1 looked competent or better. Those should be red flags warning fans not to read a whole lot into success in Preseason Game 1.
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4 hours ago, Fadingpain said:
Look at that collection of tweets! Such praise!
The lesson: none of us knows anything until Allen plays some games in the regular season.
Actually, even if a QB looks good in"some games in the regular season", it might not mean much. Both Trent Edwards and Mark Sanchez looked pretty good as rookie QB starters. They even started out their sophomore seasons very well. Unfortunately, neither one progressed as QBs beyond where they were early in their sophomomore seasons. Most QBs who become starters early on and then fail frequently follow this pattern of looking good up to a certain point, and never getting any better.
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IIRC, Zay looked pretty good in preseason but couldn't catch a cold in the regular season, so I'm not jumping on his bandwagon until he starts producing when the games actually count.
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15 hours ago, hemma said:
With two 1st rounders facing off, there will be a lot of press coverage.
Some of the reporters may even actually watch the game.
It's getting lots of hype on NFL network, so there's going to be a big national audience.
7 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:Baker Mayfield is going to light us up lol
If he's playing with their 2s vs our 2s, probably. I think Allen could have a good outing against their 2s on defense but our 2s on offense may not be good enough.
3 hours ago, Jerome007 said:I watched Mayfield a bit and he impressed me. He looked like a vet out there. He looked NFL ready already. And I sure want to see Allen perform again! And I'm sure Bills D players want a chance to sack TT
Agreed. He looked better than lots of teams veteran backups, most notably Paxton Lynch.
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14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Pardon the crassness of this post
The only losers are the ones who actually think that there are winners and losers after 1 preseason game.
Tell that to Derrius Guice, the Redskins, and their fans.
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6 hours ago, Pbomb said:
The vikings gave up a 1st for bradford a few years back when bridgewater went down. You never know how desperate some teams might get when their starter goes down
Bradford was a proven starter. He still is. Peterman played well in a couple of series in the first preseason game ... he also played decently in the preseason as a rookie and then screwed the pooch when he got his opportunity to start in the regular season. I don't think the Bills will get much for Peterman even if he shines in preseason.
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7 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said:
I'm afraid this is less about Kelly and more about how bad Lynch is
I agree. I watched the replay of the game. Lynch's performance was easily the worst one by a QB that I saw among the first preseason games. One of the Denver announcers said that he hadn't developed at all, but his performance really wasn't even acceptable for a rookie QB much less a third year veteran. Lynch doesn't seem to have a future even as a backup.
Kelly looked really good, but he followed Lynch which made him look even better.
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2 hours ago, MURPHD6 said:
Would you be motivated to play for the Cleveland Browns if you were their #1 pick at reciever after watching them pass on Carson Wentz?
Isn't your statement a perfect example of a "sense of entitlement" ....justifying why some idiot throws away a rare career opportunity simply because the specific job situation doesn't meet his standards?
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3 hours ago, eball said:
Umm, probably not. Have you seen the Bills' WR room?
My thought exactly. He'll stick with the Bills for 2018 simply because we don't have anybody better than him ... although if the Bills scour the waiver wire after final roster cut down, that may not remain true.
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5 hours ago, MURPHD6 said:
Referring to a player as being entitled is just fancy way of blaming them for poor coaching and stupid personnel decisions.
Right-o. Good coaching fixes everything. So, why isn't Dareus still on the Bills?
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I think Allen's accuracy is decent enough. Certainly it doesn't appear to be terminal to his becoming a franchise QB if he can master all the other stuff he needs to master, and it's that other "stuff" that will likely determine his fate more than his accuracy (or lack of same).
I'm more concerned that Allen demonstrate that he makes good decisions based on making the right reads as quickly as possible ... and that only comes with some experience, so it's going to take him a season or more to show if he can do it consistently.
Sam Darnold Dazzles In Debut
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Because the Jests have already determined that they're going to start Darnold in the season opener, and they aren't going to allow something as minor as Darnold's actual on-field performance to derail their plans. They'll limit him to doing what he does well, knowing that the media will uncritically gush all over him over any little success. They are manipulating their rookie QB to insure that they get the results they want in the short term even if it explodes in their faces later in the season ... or in Darnold's career.
That's my explanation for the Jests' keeping Darnold so tightly under wraps.