SoCal Deek
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5 hours ago, Einstein said:
Yeah.
Thats why I like the Tottenham design better (even though ours is modeled after it). It is an open-air stadium but the overhang covers all the seats.
It would have given best of both worlds.
I know my Physics. I don't know architecture.
I'm clearly missing some important details because there is no physics on earth that makes this small overhang have te ability to cover more than half of the stadiums seats. I know picture angles can skew things but I have seen the roof from numerous angles now and every single one looks like it *barely* covers the upper deck. And in some places it looks like it doesn't even cover the full upper deck.On the left side of this picture you can see some seats are covered from the seats above it - there must be a largeeee number of seats under there.
SoCal is our architecture expert.How many times are we going to go over this? You cannot gauge the depth of the overhang from these photos. The stadium cross section drawings have been presented numerous times. The overhang extends out over the entirety of the upper deck. Period!
(And because the upper deck has a larger circumference than the lower deck each row there has many more seats than the corresponding row in the lower deck.)Finally, Tottenham has an additional cantilevered extension of translucent material beyond the metal deck roof that covers the entirety of the seating bowl while still allowing diffused natural light to get to the natural grass field.
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2 hours ago, Einstein said:
Just my opinion, but I think the upper deck 50’s are going to be the best value in the entire place.
Completely shielded from weather, great view, and relatively cheap.
I have to agree. That price doesn’t seem unreasonable when spread out over the many years of the PSL. Heck, that’s equivalent to only FIVE years of Sunday Ticket. 😂
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The street level view shows just how tall the new stadium is compared to the current stadium whose lower bowl is sunk down below street level.
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Ralph is cheap!
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5 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:
I would rather just sit in front of my big screen TV at home out of the elements
Excellent….issue solved. 😊
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36 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:36 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:
I could careless the effect it has the QB or the team. Being protected from ehe elements means more as a fan at the game. If the lack of over hang still means I still am getting snowed or rained then it's a poor design.
If you don’t want to sit in the elements then I’d suggest you buy seats that are under the roof. Issue solved.
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48 minutes ago, Einstein said:
Im not sure why you think we have to go over it again. I know it covers the upper deck. That's dinky.
Considering that the upper deck is a whole 15 rows makes the roof overhang covering not very impressive, and as I said before, dinky.
And also as I said before, for me anyway, its not just about being covered from the elements. Its also about the nice intimate atmosphere that the larger overhang gives.
.I'm not trying to be disrespectful but it's not about the number of rows. It's about the diameter of the circle and the number of seats. Each successive row that you go out from the center has more seats per row. It's geometry.
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4 minutes ago, Pete said:
Its BPA every pick, every round. There is going to be two TEs drafted in the first round. More athletic and physical. We can improve upon TE position. There is zero chance the Bills have TEs rated higher than DE on their 1st round board IMO
Yes, round by round it changes for sure, but about the only somewhat predictable round is the First and maybe the second. After that, EVERY team is essentially picking what they believe are the best players available.
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55 minutes ago, Einstein said:
I think a good middleground would’ve been keeping it open air, but making the overhang extend further.
I really don’t know why, other than cost, they made the overhang so dinky.
I would’ve liked to seen a far reaching overhang, similar to what Tottenham did.
Their entire field is open to the elements, but nearly every seat is covered. It also gives their stadium a bit more of an intimate feel inside.
Our little dinky overhang doesn’t compare.
How many times do we have to go o er this? The renderings are deceiving. The new stadium’s roof covers the entire upper deck….and the overhanging boxes cover more in excess of the roof. The Bills design gives fan the choice of sitting in the elements or not. There are people who like both! Tottenham is an English soccer stadium. The Hot Spurs play in excess of TWENTY home games a year, with a significant number during their rainy period of the year.
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Just now, Pete said:
We need TE3 and WR2
I’m not taking 3rd string TE with my first round pick just because he’s the Best Player Available. And I seriously the doubt that the BPA will be a WR when we pick at 30.
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11 minutes ago, Pete said:
OL, QB, RB
also….TE and WR
essentially anyone on offense
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I think the entire premise is a false choice. Every year there are players that become a significant talent even without being taken in the top of the First Round. The league has plenty of them. I’ve said this before…the Bills need to upgrade their scouting department AND connect them with the coaching staff.
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5 minutes ago, Augie said:
One of my clients/friends was a defense attorney and his investigator was his right hand man. Willie would have been screwed if he didn’t have the guy who got answers to all the questions they had. Information is critical. That goes for criminal or civil. You still go 100% all out to win. It’s not like you give less than full effort because it’s not in criminal court. There is a LOT as stake here.
I’m sure your experience was probably related to your field of work. Willie got involved with dirty stuff too.
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True. My point is that there isn’t an independent investigation by the police or the court. Each side will conduct ‘research’ , more than ‘investigate’, to see what they can discover. …Which is why it’s called discovery, and not investigation.
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Just now, Augie said:
I know it’s not a criminal matter. The attorneys will have investigators who dig for the facts. It doesn’t have to be the police to have an investigation, but there will be an investigation. You need as much information as possible just to know who to depose. That was the point I was trying to make.
My experience with civil cases is that there’s very little ‘investigation’. It’s mostly just stacking up expert witnesses.
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6 minutes ago, Augie said:
Without an investigation, how do you even know who to depose? Of course they have to do some digging, and after all this time it’s going to be tough to pin things down.
A civil suit doesn’t involve the police. You’ll just have attorneys for each side asking questions (deposing) proposed witnesses from the opposing side. Those witnesses have to be listed and they may include expert witnesses who’ll testify to things like why people wait so long, etc.
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2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
10 of 30 NFL stadiums have a roof/dome. 5 of the 10 w/roofs are retractable.
Houston, Dallas, Phoenix and Indianapolis rarely open the roof. And to be honest I can’t recall the other one.
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12 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
It isn't a relevant question at all. The only relevant questions are about the evidence. Whoever investigates this crime is not going to investigate why the women waited, they are going to investigate evidence from that time. If there is a record of the women meeting with Columbia administrators and getting shunned, that will be taken into account. If the women told friends about the crime back when they happened and those friends come forward, that will be taken into account. If none of those pieces of evidence exist, that will be taken into account in Wiley's favor. The only question that won't be taken into account is the one you're exclusively focused on.
I’m not a lawyer but what investigation? This isn’t a criminal suit. It’s a civil trial. If so you’ll just have attorneys deposing witnesses.
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1 hour ago, DaVinci said:
I know someone who was at Tottenham which our stadium was modeled after and he said the upper level was very steep and the isle narrow
I was there. It wasn’t a problem.
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2 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:
But why would you question if they are actual victims? It sounds like you are unwilling to give them the benefit of the doubt. I just don’t get why people are so worked up about the women waiting so long. A lot has changed in society in 30 years.
Not to get too wonky but in this country it’s the accused, not the accuser, that gets the benefit of the doubt. Our entire system of justice is based on it.
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9 hours ago, The Cincinnati Kid said:
James Cook has Dalvin whispering in his ear and that’s probably a problem. Dalvin wasted his best years in the Arctic and doesn’t want his kid brother spending his whole career just below the treeline. My bet, Cook is a Falcon, Jaguar, Buccaneer, Dolphin, Texan, Ram or Charger within 2 full seasons.
THIS! I don’t think it can be overstated how much Dalvin is influencing his brother’s approach.
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13 hours ago, Einstein said:
I haven't read the full thread so perhaps you've already answered this, but is the sheer mass of overruns in this project unusual?
I understand overruns are normal, but this seems to be a drastically high number of overrun.
If I was Terry i'd be pissed at whoever estimated the original cost.Every project is different and I have no idea how far along the design was when the construction team signed a contract for the initial cost. There are three categories of cost overruns.
The first category is Owner directed changes. Based solely on the glaring lack of renderings it’s more than likely that the INTERIORS of the stadium (concourse, clubs, restaurants) were barely developed at that time but the schedule was such that they needed to break ground in order to meet a Fall 2026 opening. That doesn’t mean that anyone screwed up. I guarantee the Team all knew that much was left to develop but they collectively decided to get started …especially with the hyper-inflationary environment of the last few years.
The second category of large cost overruns is what’s known as unforeseen conditions. That’s where the soil is really bad, or the utilities you’re connecting to are falling apart.The final category is outside agency requirements. That’s when the local government swoops in after construction has started and says ‘ya know, we want you to pave the roads for five miles around the site’, or the power company demands that all of their lines be buried or upgraded.
In any case, rest assured that there’s a second pair of eyes looking at all cost proposals. The Contractors cannot charge whatever they want.
I hope that answers your question.
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1 minute ago, ***** said:
Bills should have gotten a fix price contract
The term is a Guaranteed Max Price (GMP) contract. I’m not sure that they didn’t. But, even a GMP doesn’t protect the Owner from increased costs due to ‘unforeseen circumstances’, or Owner directed changes.
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Just now, HamptonBillsfan said:
What’s the point? Isn’t 850million enough taxpayer funding with another huge amount in loans to the Bills. My point was about not having a retractable dome where fans and corporate donors were not given input. Do you prefer an open air stadium for almost 21/2 billion. Cleveland on the other side of the Lake is opting in favor of a retractable dome, why not us?
Again….now what? So now you think someone is over charging for the construction? Then your REAL complaint should be with Turner Construction….no?
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2 minutes ago, papazoid said:
steep like the orange seats in the AUD ?
Mount Everest isn’t THAT steep. 😂
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NFL makes the "nose swipe" gesture illegal
in The Stadium Wall
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Is the implication that there are some NFL players who are active members of a street gang? Really?