CuddyDark

I thought it started in the first game? Was he injured then? I don't recall.

Because they want him to play from the pocket. They have coached it out of him.

How many teams cut Groy as a tackle? Let him be the shot armed center he was born to be.

Because that's what they have coached him to do. They have coached running out of his game. Also in the past TT ran scripted run plays. I have seen maybe 1 scripted run play this season and it went for a 1st down against Denver.

I disagree that those would be the numbers. TT takes players away from McCoy in the run game because the offside end and linebacker stay home. When TT is not a running threat they run line slants because they don't fear TT keeping it. At least that's what I've seen so far.

One at RG?

Roster turnover was coming because they only had something like 30 players under contract. So the question remains what has Bean done for the team and the answer is nothing so far. Now if we write off year one as you want to do, fine. I'm okay with that. But that wasn't the question. The question is what has Bean done for this team. Not next years team.

They should ride it out, I agree. In doing so they have to use what that have and so far they have not used TT on zone reads and that was the best part of his game the past 2 season.

No not true. He didn't have any designed runs. I can't remember one zone run call.

Let TT keep the ball and you know do what he does best with it?

Yes go where they talk about sunshine and rainbows. Where they heap their desire onto the team and not reality. There has to be an excuse thread for you somewhere.

You never said they did but you said they did?

There was one play where the Bengals sold out for McCoy and if TT kept it he would have run for a TD. It's a big piece to their running over the past 2 seasons and without it as a threat they can cheat to McCoy on every play. They even had some run blitz where everyone is out of position headed for McCoy and if TT pulls it he gets 10 or 20 yards easy.

Take TT running away from this run game and it's an average run game.

You said it was to be a "transitional year" they have not. As a fan I expected them to win 6 games but that doesn't mean I can't judge them for a season they said matters. That also doesn't mean I have to wait until McD has every probowl player he wants before I judge his game management or use of talent. What he does this year matters.

They said they don't believe they are playing for the draft several times. They have also said they believe in the team they have right now. They have said they "don't see it that way" when asked about the draft picks. Also they have said as you state here that they believe in building through the draft. I'm judging them on what they have said in both cases. I'm judging them on this season because they flat out said this season matters and they are not trying to tank for the draft. I will also judge their drafting. Exactly this. Especially since they said the season matters and they expect to win game in 2017.

They have never committed to anything. They are trying to hide behind their "honeymoon." They are speaking out of both sides of their mouths so they have zero culpability for this season.

It's not because of his play on the field. It's seems like a judgement of something else. Listen, I don't care what a man does in his personal life. If they have him on the team and he's their 2nd best tackle, they should play him.

So far, nothing. If they're playing for next year they should have the balls to say it. If they say they're trying to win now, he's done nothing.

Which is ridiculous. The center couldn't even block him.

Don't chill the heck out. It's starting to look like mismanagement of the roster by the HC. Question his moves. Question Bean decimating the receiving corps. Talk about not having any reasonable corner behind White. If they say they're trying to win take them at their word.

I'd rather have Dawkins at RG.

Despite what seems like an irrational hatred of Marcel, he was the best Dlineman in the game yesterday. Bills for some reason just don't like him. I think McD is big on trust and I don't think he trusts Marcel.

If they keep playing the quick game like they've been doing the past two weeks, maybe zero.

He's been really good this year. He's been top 3 defensive player in almost every game. He see it, but on occasion he doesn't have the speed to end a play with a loss of yards.