ChiGoose

You’re the one jumping to conclusions all the time, here. We have a bunch of people saying essentially “let’s see what the committee has” and you’re out here implying the FBI was in on it and that you already know everything they are going to present all while castigating others for jumping to conclusions.

You’re making assumptions here and I think it would just be better to see what they found.

One of the five investigative teams on the committee has a specific task of investigating the law enforcement failures. So I would expect to see something about this at some point.

My guess is that it was probably chaos and they may not have realized exactly what was going on. Plus, they may have been worried that some of the people were armed and opening fire would result in a firefight with a lot of potential for fatalities. Even if they took non-lethal action, they were so outnumbered it wouldn’t do much aside from endanger their own lives.

I think the most likely explanation is that Hillary Clinton and her legion of baby eating globalists partnered with the FBI and the reverse vampires to infiltrate the Capitol police to let the rioters in so that they could prevent the certification of Biden’s win to make Trump look bad.

Absolute smooth brain post right here. Equating a violent attempt to prevent the certification of an election to trespassing and then stating an easily debunked falsehood. CNN: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/06/17/politics/late-show-stephen-colbert-production-congress-capitol-police-arrest/index.html CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/stephen-colbert-show-detained-production-crew-triumph-insult-dog-capitol-police-congressional-offices/ ABC: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Entertainment/wireStory/arrested-house-office-building-linked-colbert-show-85476398

Everyone has pulled out their jump to conclusions mat, assuming they know the answers to ongoing investigations. I don’t know why some officers were standing around. Maybe since they were so outnumbered and overwhelmed at that point, they decided just to try to prevent violence instead of pushing people out. Maybe they were rooting for the rioters. Maybe they were incompetent. I would like to see what, if anything, the committee has on this. I would like to know what, if anything, the DoJ is doing about it. But what I’m not going to do is assume I know all of the information gathered in these investigations before it’s released or the hearings are done. Because that would just be partisan nonsense.

He’s old. Does Trump even know how to ride a bike? Since most people learn to ride from a daddy who loves them, I would bet none of the Trumps know how to ride a bike.

The committee is divided into five teams with different goals. One of those teams is focused solely on the law enforcement failures. So far in the hearings, they’ve mostly been focused on the events leading up to Jan 6, with only limited testimony on the events during the riot. I would expect that they get to the report out from the law enforcement team in one of the upcoming hearings.

If police or others let them in, they should be disciplined too.

QAnon Shaman plead guilty so no need for a trial. As for those who aren’t going to plead, they definitely should get a trial. But our criminal justice system is a joke so it’ll be a while.

Yea he does.

If he got into the chamber by force, then yes.

It is within the definition of seditious conspiracy though: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384 “If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”

They are absolutely innocent until proven guilty. And Jim Jordan is so stupid I would be surprised if he was even capable of planning anything. Poor guy can’t even figure out how a suit coat works. Here’s a scenario I’d like you to think about, and we can completely remove politics from it. Let’s say that there was a congressional hearing on steroids in sports. And a lot of people in the public thought that Tom Brady was doping. But I don’t, I think he’s clean. The committee subpoenas a bunch of people close to Brady but they all refuse to testify and go to court to fight the subpoenas. Publicly, all of Brady’s camp is saying he’s clean and it’s just his amazing TB12 routine. So I continue to quote those people are evidence that Brady is clean. All of his people are still fighting the committee, saying it has too many Bills fans on it and the one Patriot fan on it isn’t really a Patriot fan. They’re a PFINO, Patriot Fan in Name Only. Some of Brady’s people are able to quash the subpoenas but others aren’t and they give testimony. His nutritionist testifies that Brady was taking steroids. His trainer pleads the fifth over 100 times. Not a single person testifying states that Brady is clean. But publicly, the same people still say that it’s a sham and he’s clean. Now, he hasn’t been charged, or fined or suspended, and the investigation is still ongoing, but at what point would you expect me to re-evaluate my position that he is definitely clean?

If you’re arguing that the Dems screwed up the impeachments, you’re not going to find too much disagreement from me. How are you so certain that no members of Congress were in on it? And to your last point, go check out the actual law around seditious conspiracy. No matter what you say, firearms are not an element of the crime.

No, she put on Republicans who actually wanted to know what happened. Under your logic, the 9/11 committee was a sham because it didn’t have any Al Qaeda terrorists on it. The one thing that’s clear here is that the two sides here are simply those who will testify under oath and those who won’t. That should tell you something. It is also telling that the officials who agree with your line of thought in public tell a very different story when they are under oath.

Well Jim Jordan is an unserious moron who would just act as a distraction, at least that would be my reason. At the time, Pelosi said she rejected them out of concerns from some of their statements. Given that they signed on to the insane Texas v Pennsylvania lawsuit, I would guess she probably felt that they were pro-insurrection which would be inappropriate for a committee looking into an insurrection.

Well you should take that up with McCarthy. Pelosi agreed to three of his candidates, all of whom voted against impeaching Trump but McCarthy withdrew them. If you look at the facts, it’s clear the Dems wanted a bipartisan committee but McCarthy did not because then people could dismiss it as partisan. Also, saying it’s not bipartisan because the Republicans on it don’t count because *reasons* is just moving the goal posts.

The Republicans named FIVE members to the committee and Pelosi rejected two of them, while accepting the other three. The House resolution gave her sole authority on selecting members. And the only reason she had that authority was because the GOP rejected the bipartisan joint committee negotiated by John Katko. The truth hurts, huh?

How is it a charade? It was supposed to be bipartisan until the GOP decided they didn’t want a bipartisan committee. The Vice Chair is Liz Cheney. Do you think the daughter of Dick “Halliburton” Cheney is a liberal shill? Or do you just think all of the Republicans testifying under oath are perjuring themselves?

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How in the world is it blowing up in the face of Dems? All of the garbage conspiracies like 2,000 Mules have been completely debunked by people testifying under oath about investigations into the claims, we now have a record of what was happening within the White House leading up to Jan 6th, and plenty of evidence of people doing things they admitted were illegal at the time. I agree that there's a disconnect between the hearings and what will matter in the midterms, but that's irrelevant to the purpose of the committee.

I mean, yeah, I do. But that's ok, I like me well enough. You ok?

What a meaningful contribution to this board. You really worked hard at that one.