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Nope. If you don't agree w/ me, just do a quick youtube of that late hit on Tre.

When it comes to winning championships, the no brainers are QB and coach. With few exceptions, you need very good to great in both roles. But pass rush is probably a very close 3rd. It seems like every team that has hoisted the Lombardi at the end has one of the better ones in the league. There is no substitute for being able to harry and hurry an opposing QB & keep them under pressure all game, especially if you can build a lead. And it's our biggest area of weakness. Our top guy had 5 sacks all season. Beane knows what he has to do here.

Patriots fans are loving it today - but they probably won't be if TB goes up there next year and dismantles them in front of the home crowd, as he probably will. And they probably won't love either the entire nation of pundits spending the offseason saying, "See? It was Brady all along. BB is overrated...."

There were a couple of Chiefs fans here the past couple of weeks doing some humble bragging. It wasn't egregious, but I just thought it was bad etiquette after a loss like we had. Give it a couple of months before talking about how much better the Chiefs are than the Bills as of today & all that. Much MORE egregious was their main board. Other fanbases were talking about how insufferable Chiefs fans had become, and I always thought it was hyperbole - but that board was somethin' else. I've said it before, but it's the 1st place on the internet that I will not go back to. A completely toxic place, where we need stronger words than "arrogant" to adequately describe the general tone. Last night was a bit of humble pie for all of them. And I didn't really mind seeing Brady hoist another as much as I thought. 6, 7 - what's the difference.

Did you watch this past NFL season?

I've seen too many "I feel like we won the SB!" from Pats fans tonight. Kind of weird, but I get the allegiance to TB. Personally, I think it takes some luster off of BB. Brady can clearly do it without him....can he do it without Brady? I doubt he coaches long enough to prove he can.

It's been said a lot, but the really irritating thing is that we KNOW the Chiefs' DB's played the same way against us - we just didn't get the calls that the Bucs did. Hard to be too upset. I'm glad I don't feel right now like I would if we lost this game, and we likely would have if we made it.

Honestly, there was talk on another thread about how because of Allen, we need to keep investing in better & better weapons - that our receivers weren't quite as good as the Chiefs, and that needed to be the focus. Trenches, trenches, trenches. I don't care if they don't make another move at receiver for the next 2 years.

No comparison. Getting to the AFCCG is still viewed as a great accomplishment, even if you lose. Lose the SB, and you're a loser.

2-3 times out of 10. Not nearly good enough.

Anyone else feel worse about Gronk winning another (and playing really well) than Brady? I just don't like Brady because he beat the Bills for 20 years. Gronk had one of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen in the NFL, against one of my favorite Bills. Never like seeing that guy celebrate, or be celebrated.

Everyone was downplaying losing 2 starting tackles a bit much. Against the Bucs line? That's pretty devastating. Too much to overcome, and it showed on the field. Mahomes was never comfortable.

Only 2 weeks after we were exposed as the same. It was like watching a mirror of that game tonight. Weird deja vu. Mahomes even had 20-30 yard sprinting backwards dropbacks.

It's like a horror movie w/ 10 sequels. "He's back....and this time, it's personal."

Bowles is a great DC, too - he deserves credit for this win as much as anyone.

The Bucs were underestimated. For the last 2 months solid, they have been on an epic roll. People took a couple of swoons they had early on too seriously. It was Brady's 1st new team in 20 years. It was going to take some time for things to come together. Just so glad it wasn't us tonight. Losing like that would have been devastating. I'd have to not look at the internet until at least November - and only then if we were undefeated at that point.

Personally, I can't be all that happy about this. It's just Brady.

I know Brady WON some close SB's, but he also lost a bunch. He could really be getting his 9th or 10th right now. It's absolutely, 100%, otherworldly insane. As much as I can't stand the guy, maybe as a fan of the game, I'll come to appreciate that someday.

Very hard to root or be happy for either.

Meh. I wish winning players would make it easier to feel good for them.

D-line, D-line, D-line. And MORE D-line.

Let's not forget about Nick Wright in all of this....

I feel like this Bucs team would have been a BAD matchup for the Bills. Maybe I'm just rationalizing. But I'm so glad this isn't us.

Good lesson for the Bills, too. We were too one-dimensional. Defense is so important to winning championships.

I'll tell ya - in hot take nation, this thread looks a LOT different today.