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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Underperforming isn't the right word for him. But I am confident saying he is not worth his cap hit this year. Not when legitimate upgrades at WR and DE can be had in free agency. But it would require Beane make a ruthless decision with a player that has done everything right since he got here. I don't know if he has it in him, unfortunately.
I love Morse. I also love Hyde, Tre & Poyer. But there just comes a time.
I think Beane has been a great GM to this point - but this is that time in a franchise's development that he has to make those tough decisions. I'm really curious to see how it goes. I think he might surprise us.
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1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:
Wow would many of you HATE this one. Those first two picks are DUDES, though.
Yeah - this one won't do at all.
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21 minutes ago, ngbills said:
Just cut MVS and save another $12M
Kind of just creates another need for them, too. They're already short good WR's.
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1 minute ago, SCBills said:
Rasul Douglas will be 30 years old when the season starts. He’s good. Is that where we want to spend 10M? Is that the type of player we should extend in the Secondary?Tre White is coming off two major injuries. We will have no way of knowing what he is until late in camp.. at best. He took a while to come back off the last injury. Now it’s two.
Cutting both of them and going young in the Secondary makes us players for a Hollywood Brown or a multiple pieces on the DL (for example).
I loved how Douglas played for us this year. But I agree w/ this - let's roll w/ Elam, Benford & Johnson. And they can grab someone later in the draft, too. If there is one position that this staff knows how to develop, it's CB.
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5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:
the 1st gets attention for obvious reasons, but man... that 4th one hurts
They 100% should have won the 4th. If you watch that documentary it makes it even more clear. Dallas players were like "well, they are finally going to get one" because Aikman was concussed badly and couldn't understand play calls, the Bills were dominating the game (but not the score).
We freaking had that 4th one. up 13-7, driving... then one fumble happened and undid it all.
BTW, those kinds of fumbles NEVER happen anymore. Top RBs used to fumble back then, not often, but often compared to today.
If the 4th one was our 1st one, we'd have won.
It really gets in your head when you start losing Super Bowls. As soon as Thomas fumbled, it was like the air went out of the team. That "here we go again" feeling.
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2 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
I hear ya. Not just here but also every football show seemingly leads with KC headlines. We just have to come to term with KC being a dynasty now. Personally, I try to leave the emotions out of it. They’re at the top and deserve the respect. You can’t beat your opponent if you don’t respect and learn from them. Just my view.Don't forget Mahomes & Kelce in every other commercial!
I respect KC. I respected the Pats, too.
I'm just getting annoyed w/ the state of this board. I don't really come here to lavish praise on the Chiefs all of the time. Some discussion is fine, but it's bordering on obsession these days.
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5 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
I mean it’s not unwarranted right? They’ve been the most successful team the last 5-6 years. Winning 3 Championships while not being cap strapped. Drafting and developing players to turnover roster after roster without skipping a beat. That’s admirable. They’ve been better than everyone else at doing that. With a copy cat league like the NFL other teams will try to emulate as they should.It's way over the top. We didn't post this much about the Patriots when they ran the division for 2 decades.
I almost feel like this is a KC board, between the worship & some of their fans taking over the conversations (and literally within days of winning their 2nd consecutive, which I will never understand, like ever).
Used to be a good safe space for a Bills homer like me to post. Kinda miss those days.
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KC worship & KC paranoia are getting pretty carried away on this board.
I get that they have been a nemesis in the playoffs, but some fans are getting way over the top.
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I watched it once - it is excellent. I can not watch it again. Maybe if we eventually win one it would be less painful, but I won't go near it now.
We might have won 2 or 3 if we got that 1st one. It was already in their heads to not be Denver by the 2nd one, and I remember Madden saying that it seemed like the Bills wanted to win "too much." Never should have come down to Norwood in the 1st - quite a few missed tackles on that LONG drive the Giants had in the 2nd half.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Losing a Super Bowl is the hardest loss in sports, and we did it 4 consecutive years.
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Sounds good to me.
Much better than "it's hard to win in this league" or something like that.
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I could see Elam emerging if he goes into the season fully healthy.
He has more talent than some fans think, imo.
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10 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
Saying that one opinion is irrefutable is saying exactly that. There are plenty of facts that support the other side. Where are all these facts you’ve provided anyway?I've provided facts all over this thread.
Every time I do, you move the goalposts. It's a repetitive pattern, and it has gotten boring for me.
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15 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
Admitting that you’ve made up your mind and facts don’t matter?That’s no different than saying it’s irrefutable that Mahomes is a better QB than Allen.
But my opinion is BASED in facts. Who said they don't matter?
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2 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
Okay, let’s look at 2022. Allen had the #1 rated roster and Mahomes the #8. Mahomes had a high ankle sprain at the beginning of the first playoff game and played the AFC title game without several key players.
Was Mahomes’ situation far better in 2022?
My conclusion in the last post I made is final, and irrefutable.
Everything else is just fluff.
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2 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
Who was saying that this year?
As for Andy Reid, he’s one of the most successful coaches of all time. I’ve never said otherwise. I’ve just pointed out facts. Such as…the Andy Reid narrative was very different in 2018, when he had a losing record in the playoffs and was coming off a home loss to Marcus Mariota.
Obviously anyone is going to rate Reid higher than McDermott. And Kelce higher than Kincaid. But the main difference in both cases is longevity. McD’s first several years are pretty comparable to Reid’s first several. And is there really a huge difference between Kelce and Kincaid as of the Buffalo game? Kelce’s slowing down. I won’t be surprised at all if Kincaid has the better stats next season.
Mahomes has had a much better situation, from the start.
It's cool, though. It doesn't mean Mahomes is a bad QB or anything.
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2 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
Well, sure he’s had some talented players and solid coaches. So has Allen.
Mahomes’ defenses have been worse than Allen’s regular season or postseason by any measure until this year. The difference is that he never faces the Chiefs. Plus, it’s not like his defenses have shut down Buffalo. They just get a few stops.
Pretty much all my takes are echoed by most national analysts. They aren’t crazy, uncommon opinions.
The bolded seems to be the go-to as some sort of "proof."
But I don't think the bolded is accurate. I've heard plenty of analysts say that Allen has to carry his team more than any other top QB, and that Reid is one of the best coaches of all time. And analysts correctly hyped the Chiefs '23 defense, all through the season & playoffs.
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My entire life as a fan has been "next season - that's the one!"
The biggest difference now is that it really could be, and can be for at least another decade or so. I mean, I was saying the same when we picked up Orton, and were having debates about Losman vs. Edwards.
At least now, we know we'll be in the mix. It's not some vain, crazy hope.
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17 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Spags has the KC Defense playing pretty well most playoffs.
and poor KC, Mahomes has a bad OL once and got wrecked because of it. Was blessed with Hill/Kelce and now… awww… all y’all get is an all-time TE and multiple high round picks at WR.
Last year top 2 OL.
This year Top tier Defense.
KC runs the league but Chiefs fans stay insecure the second anyone challenges the notion that Mahomes has been blessed beyond measure with the organization/teams around him.
And it's on another team's board (which already & annoyingly has overflowing praise for Mahomes), literally within days of their team winning a 2nd straight SB.
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14 hours ago, finn said:
Unless he's a superstar next year and very good the following year, too, Miller will go down as one of the worst free-agent signings in NFL history. $114 million for 8 sacks, to date. Think of what that kind of dough could have bought elsewhere.
He could still turn it around, but at this point, signing Miller was like putting all your retirement money in Blockbuster--in 2004.
I thought it was a great move at the time, and it was pretty universally praised from what I remember.
But for sure, it did NOT work out. Really, the worst-case scenario happened, with an aging player who relies on speed getting a bad knee injury. It's hard to think about what that money could have done to improve this team.
Really hoping Miller can have an impact this season, and at least justify some of the money he's getting paid.
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1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
13 seconds didn’t matter. Bills would have loss the next week to the Bengals.
I'd agree if "would" was "could."Probably would have been a good, close game - 50/50. But agreed w/ the general sentiment that fans are too assumptive about how that game might have gone.
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5 minutes ago, beebe said:
Alex Smith had the best year of his 13-year career in 2017, the year before Mahomes took over. Smith led an offense with great tackles (Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz) and elite skill position talent (Travis Kelce, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt) and was playing for his job trying to hold off Mahomes.
- Smith finished with 4,042 yards, 26 TDs, 5 INTs, 104.7 QB rating, and KC averaged 25.9 points per game.
Mahomes took over as a first-time starter the very next year, with basically the exact same offensive roster.
- Mahomes finished with 5,097 yards, 50 TDs, 12 INTs, 113.8 QB rating, and KC averaged 35.3 points per game.
Smith played with defenses that finished: 5th, 2nd, 3rd, 7th and 15th in points allowed, yet could manage only one playoff victory across five seasons in KC. Mahomes has played with mostly worse defenses by comparison (until 2023), and yet has won 15 playoff games in 18 tries (with losses in OT, OT and in the Super Bowl.)
It's almost like it's not all Andy Reid.
Who said it was "all" Andy Reid?
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10 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:
So….the player who’s been much more mistake-prone (137 INTs/fumbles vs 99 in fewer games) with a defense that has provided far more takeaways (163 to 138) would have accomplished more than Mahomes in KC? By upgrading his offensive talent for a few seasons while downgrading defensively every year but one?Seems doubtful. Especially considering Allen was very inaccurate his first two years (at that point Mahomes had already notched a historic MVP season and a SB victory).
KC had better offensive skill players during Mahomes’ first few years but hasn’t the last few. They’ve also had a weak running game most years, weak tackle play in half of Mahomes’ seasons, receivers that led the league in drops by a mile this year, the worst run blocking in the league for a few years, and weak defense every year but one. They’ve also been among the most penalized teams annually while their opponents are among the least.
Somehow this adds up to a situation so much better than Allen’s that he’d have 6x as many AFC title game appearances as he has now, 3 or more SB rings and at least two MVPs?
Also, is the difference in coaching as drastic as you make it out to be if one of Reid’s most lauded plays was stolen from the “uncreative” Bills?
And was it the defense’s fault that Allen led his offense to 10 points vs Cincinnati last year? A hobbled Mahomes scored more than twice as many points vs the same team the next week, while throwing to a depleted WR corps consisting of MVS, Skyy Moore and Marcus Kemp from the practice squad.
I don’t think the facts support your assertion.
This is like a cherrypicking festival.
Allen throws more picks than Mahomes, for sure. But he also had 44 TD's to Mahomes' 27 TD's this past year. That's more the kind of QB Allen is - he takes more risks, but makes more big plays. And how is his playoff ratio of TD's to INT's?
And Allen was admittedly bad in last year's Cincy game. But why do you choose that game, but fail to mention Mahomes' meltdown in the 2nd half against Cincy in the game right after 13 seconds?
Beyond that, you keep bringing up how KC stole a SINGLE PLAY from the Bills. No one ever said the Bills staff has zero creativity. Singling out 1 play for any kind of coaching comparison is the height of cherrypicking, and completely unscientific.
My assertion is based on a much more broad overview of MANY stats and factors that make up a more true comparison between both QB's, both coaching staffs and both teams as a whole. It's a much more holistic view. Ergo, the facts actually DO support my assertion.
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2 minutes ago, beebe said:
Because I was curious. Here's another McDermott stat to add additional context...
Since 2018, Buffalo's takeaways:
2023: 30 (3rd)
2022: 27 (5th)
2021: 30 (3rd)
2020: 26 (3rd)
2019: 23 (10th)
2018: 27 (8th)
In the six year span, the Bills are cumulatively the #1 defense in the league at takeaways.
The offense, meanwhile, has been better than league average (barely) at giveaways only twice in six years, and has finished 21st, 25th, 30th and 31st. If you would like me to provide additional context, we can try to figure out how many times McDermott's defenses have had to start possessions in their own territory following Buffalo's 150 giveaways—an average of 25 per season—which is among the worst in the league in that span.
So why does the world-class McDermott defense disappear in the playoffs, against more teams than the one led by the immortal Mahomes?
It's a head-scratcher.
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25 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
You can claim whatever you want to believe. That’s the beauty of what if scenarios. The difference is, my opinions on Mahomes are mirrored by practically every analyst and pundit.
You probably also believe that Allen would have more SBs than Brady if he had played in NE, since he has the bigger arm and all.
Mirrored by every analyst & pundit? In the age of hot-take sports media? The fun thing on that is, we can all experience the joy of watching those narratives turn on a dime over the next decade+.
I'm not sure if Allen would have gotten 6 for the Pats, but who knows. He might have gotten 7 or 8.
And thank you, btw. It's awesome that I can have my own opinion about Josh Allen & the Bills - on a Bills board.
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Man, that sounds like a lot of work for Beane.
I have no idea what to expect this season. I thought we had our best team in decades heading into '23, but this one seems like it could be a re-set.
Which would be tough after the way the season ended.