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8 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:
Don't get it twisted....I'm not triggered by anything I've read here. In fact, I'm probably one of the least triggered people on this board, if you've been following the last few weeks.
This is one of the most annoying things that people say. Why not take it as a compliment to your board that other fans want to post here? You act like I've been posting here hourly for years, or as if no rival fans (including Buffalo fans) post on KC boards.
I generally post on message boards when I need to kill a little time while working at my desk. But I get bored with just a few sites to rotate from, especially if they're low-traffic, so I occasionally seek out others. And this one was interesting to me and has more traffic than most.
Personally, I don't mind when other fans post here at all. I like intelligent back & forth about the game.
But you're really not reading the room here. It's probably hard to remember at this point how frustrating it is to be good enough for a title, but not be able to get one. Imagine Pats fans coming to your board in the days immediately after Dee Ford was Offside, and getting upset that you weren't giving Brady enough props. And even when there were Brady props all over your board - but that just wasn't enough for the Pats fans. They needed to see every poster heap praise on him, or it was a slight.
Maybe not the best timing, right?
And as for Wright - you said we always start threads about his trolling, but I think I've only seen one in the past 3-4 months. Most here get that he's a Bayless-light clown who just wants to get a rise out of us.
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If he really is leaving, I wish him the best & will pull for him to succeed.
He has given all of us some really exciting moments, and certainly one of the most memorable playoffs games we have seen not just from a Bills receiver, but from ANY receiver.
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Just now, SaulGoodman said:
I mean, it probably hasn't been said much since the SB, but there were definitely some saying it before the game in Buffalo. And I remember seeing an ESPN graphic that gave Buffalo the edge at QB.
You sure about that?
I haven't seen anyone say that since at least prior to last year's SB. I truly doubt that anyone in the national media was talking that way at any point this past season.
I still can't figure out the deal here. Do you really think Mahomes is disrespected in some way? Is that your primary focus one week after winning a 2nd SB, when Mahomes is in every other commercial we see on TV, and many are mentioning "GOAT" when talking about him?
Not enough? You need consensus on a Buffalo Bills board that he's unbeatable and super amazing, and wow, do we wish we had that guy?
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1 minute ago, SaulGoodman said:
Where did I say anything about the media? But while we're on the subject, virtually everyone in the media licks Allen's balls, and some claim he's the better QB, despite not having near the accomplishments. Yet many of you pull the disrespect card constantly.
I would love to see a quote from ANYONE in the media claiming he's better right now.
I haven't heard that in well over a year.
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Beane shocked me last year. I had no expectations that we could possibly sign anyone, then he just found a way. I know a lot of that was pushing money out to the future, but it still felt like a bit of a magic trick.
Hoping for the same this year. I hope he goes bold, and instead of just restructuring a bunch of guys, works some trades and makes a few cuts. It would be cool to get younger, and start moving away from contracts that aren't in the best interest of the team.
Easier said than done. My knowledge of how to manage an NFL cap wouldn't fill a thimble.
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The negative responses on this thread are pretty much the same: calling out injuries is an "excuse."
Does it never hit a point of no return? Is there not a time when a team has too much to overcome in that part of the game?
It was almost consensus here & elsewhere after the Pitt game: we were too banged up to make a real run. We were hoping we could just get past KC to rid ourselves of that demon that we just can't get past them when it counts. But no one had serious SB aspirations w/ the state of this team.
Now, it's all "sssshhhhhh....don't mention it."
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2 minutes ago, beebe said:
The Chiefs have scored 31+ points in 9 of their 18 playoff games with Mahomes. They average 29.2 points per game and 6.3 yards per play. Only the Bucs and Ravens kept them to less than 20 points—and if we're being honest, the Chiefs could have had more vs Baltimore if it was absolutely necessary. These stats are despite KC playing five games in freezing temps, five with a compromised Mahomes (left early with foot injury vs Browns '20 and didn't return, played hurt vs Bills in '20 AFC title game; left early with high ankle vs Jags '22 Divisional but came back, played hurt vs Cincy '22 AFC title, reinjured ankle vs Philly Super Bowl) and despite them blowing out six opponents where they lost incentive to keep scoring.
To be clear, the Bills defense has definitely come up short vs KC in the playoffs. There's no doubt about that. But they're hardly alone.
I get the point you're trying to make. But it's very noticeable how many excuses you make for Mahomes & the Chiefs, while largely dismissing disadvantages the Bills have had to deal with.
I mean, "freezing temps"?
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2 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
Yeah, there's definitely a contingent here who give KC plenty of credit. I was referring to the other side.
I don't consider it praise to just give a little credit to the opponent. I think the Chiefs' defense was terrible in the 13 seconds game, but I can acknowledge that Allen and the Bills had quite a bit to do with it. Same with the 35 allowed to the Eagles last year, etc.
It's not what I look for going to opposing teams' boards. I don't expect it at all, and rarely see it.
I don't really get it. KC won the Super Bowl a week ago. That ain't enough?
I've been genuinely surprised by the posts from KC fans here over the past week. Enjoy the win. Fans here are still grappling w/ playoff frustration and an underachieving team that so far has squandered some good years of Allen's prime. Maybe the days right after another KC SB win aren't going to be the best to find hype for your team or even proper "credit."
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Just now, The Red King said:
Should Cincy have overcome losing Burrow? Should the Jets have overcome losing Rodgers? No? Can we stop pretending injuries were a non-factor? As posted above, look at KC's injuries compared to ours going into that game. Can you look me in the eye and say those injuries were equitable? Of course not! The argument that "all teams get injuries", suggesting each team's injury situation was equally damaging is ridiculous.
Thank you. That's really all I was saying w/ the OP. Sometimes, you hit a critical mass on the injury front.
Most pundits even talked about that before the KC game, and said they didn't think the Bills could overcome the losses against a relatively healthy Chiefs team. Even Nick Wright alluded to that. But, of course, after the game it's only "Mahomes bested Allen again."
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1 minute ago, 90sBills said:
KC made the #1 defense in Superbowl 54 looked bad. They shredded to Eagles #1 defense in last year’s Superbowl. Then this Superbowl, with a lackluster offense, they again scored on one of the top defenses. I’m starting to think it really doesn’t matter how good a team’s defense is when they play Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs. They’re going to score. So it’s up to the offense to out score them. Can’t rely on defensive stops.Probably true. But we almost managed to do that.
Our D didn't do as well against them as the Ravens, or Niners. Both teams got more stops than we did. We dominated TOP in our game w/ KC - all we needed was 1-2 more defensive stops. I mean, that drive they had coming out of the half was hot knife through butter. We didn't give them any resistance compared to other teams.
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1 minute ago, SaulGoodman said:
Playoff Chiefs, and Mahomes in particular, are a different animal than the regular season Chiefs. The Patriots were the same way. They'd have a mediocre regular season or stretches of bad play, and then flip the switch in the postseason and take another trophy. Mahomes is on a different level of focus when it gets real. I remember when the Alex Smith Chiefs blew out two really good Patriots teams in the regular season. Like, annihilated them. But guess who was hoisting the trophy in the end while the Chiefs were one and done?
If a KC fan were to view the 13 seconds game as a product of poor defense, would you feel slighted? Doesn't seem like any of you will give credit to a team that's had one of the most successful stretches in NFL history, particularly offensively. And you could certainly make the case that defense was mostly responsible for that, as if you take away just the one instance of the DB falling down on 4th and forever, it's probably a comfortable win for KC.
And what no one ever mentions is that KC's defense hasn't been stellar in the regular season OR playoffs until this year. 37 pts allowed in the loss to NE in '18. The next year they allowed an average of 25 ppg and 31 vs the Texans. Including a 24-0 hole early in the game. Gave up 31 vs Tampa in the SB. 36 to the Bills in 21. 27 to Cincy the next week. 35 vs Philly in the SB.
Kind of laughed at the bolded. There are so many posts on this board that are borderline worshipful of KC. KC gets too much praise on here, imo. Even a KC-hater like me gives them credit for what they have accomplished, and praises Mahomes frequently. He's one of my favorite QB's to watch, though after his meltdown in the regular I lost some respect for him.
And I'd reiterate: this actually is a BILLS board. There is an astounding amount of KC talk and praise just considering that alone. You want more? I wouldn't expect to go to a KC board & see overflowing praise for the Bills or Allen. In fact, after our exchange, I went over to the Planet just to see if it had changed, and saw many more posts calling Allen & the Bills chokers and saying they weren't a real threat in the AFC.
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I mean, plenty of good linemen "disappear" against Mahomes. He's a tough dude to sack.
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5 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:
Is this supposed to refute my post? Not sure I'm following. Is your point that Bills' D plays really well in the regular season and really well in the post-season against everyone except Mahomes? My point is that the D plays poorly in the post-season in general (except for one game) and especially poorly against the Chiefs. Second point is that Bills D against Chiefs in regular season is pretty decent and in the post-season mind-numbingly bad. Not sure how you can refute that given the regular and post-season stats.
Exactly this.
We've all seen it. We can THINK we have a great D, but they simply do not show up in the playoffs. Probably more of an excuse this past season w/ the injuries - but I roll my eyes when I see someone talking about our regular season D ranking.
For whatever reason, and it may be because McD overthinks it, or injuries, or some other factor - our defense in the playoffs has been mediocre. And it has been, as you said, particularly bad against the Chiefs. Though the Bengals game last year also stands out.
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13 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
The NFL has always been a game of attrition. Just here to say this is nothing but excuses, reality? Sure it's reality the Bills have 7 guys on IR this year and some bad luck in the Steelers game that left the Bills shy at LB but overcoming that is not monumental. If Allen and Diggs went down you would have a much better argument. Injuries are partly luck, partly player selection, partly training staff. The perception the Bills were super unlucky with injuries I don't think is justified. The Chiefs ended the year with 9 guys on IR and from scanning the list the Bills were one of the lowest IR teams. Now guys on IR is just a list, it does not address the impact of the specific players. In the past I have seen data from starts lost and whatnot, I dont know where to find that but I bet it shows the Bills were not unlucky. In the NFL every team deals with it, life is not fair so injury impact is not equal but guys are playing injured by the end of the season. The Chiefs lost Thuney for the SB, his loss was noticeable yet they found a way rather than make an excuse.
That's all pretty fair.
My take immediately following the KC game was that we just lost one guy too many. Just give me either Bernard or Milano in that game. I felt like the situation at LB was simply too weak w/ the top guys out.
I think what drove this thread was all of the hand-wringing about Beane I've been seeing, and to a lesser extent McDermott (with the latter, I think there is legit concern). If we hadn't been hit quite as hard, there is a chance we'd be singing the praises for both guys today.
But your overall point is solid: great teams overcome it all.
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He's already very good, and he's 23.
We've seen so many players here take a leap - Oliver, Epenesa, Bernard. I don't think we have seen Rousseau's best yet. But he's already very good.
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1 minute ago, Brand J said:
Can we stop doing this? Pretty please?
I don't mind it. It's not some crazy idea.
Football is a team game. Mahomes has had much better coaching to this point, and better all-around teams. Obviously, most think Mahomes is better at this point, and even the GOAT.
It reminds me of Brady/Manning. After Brady won a few SB's, some considered the debate over. But how could you compare a guy w/ the GOAT coach to a guy who played for 5 different coaches? Coaching is so important to winning that final game.
In the end, of course, Brady proved himself the better QB. And Mahomes might still do that also. But I'll be actively watching the next decade or so to see how it all plays out.
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21 minutes ago, prissythecat said:
the playoff game against the Chiefs wasn’t as close as the score suggests . The Chiefs were gaining something like 8 or 9 yards per play …. while we were gaining 4 ish? Cowher made a pretty good comment about how the game wasn’t really close and that the Bills were just hanging on .In some ways, it felt that way - especially after the fake punt. But we absolutely dominated TOP.
It was a close game. Both teams had breaks & mistakes.
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1 minute ago, mannc said:
Last I heard, there is no Lombardi Trophy awarded to “Best Team When Everyone’s Healthy.” All NFL teams have injuries. And BTW, our offense was almost 100 percent healthy all season. I can’t think of an important starter who missed a game. Unheard of…
Did I say that they should be awarded a Lombardi?
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6 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
Again, I think you probably took a lot of it too seriously. I doubt that anyone actually hoped for an injury. If so, it was probably the one or two bad apples that you'll find anywhere.
I will admit that some of them have a twisted sense of humor though.
For the record, I don't equate that board w/ Chiefs fans in general. From my own encounters, they're like any other fans. And I've always liked KC (in the past) because they were similar to Buffalo in some ways (small market, not a great playoff history, etc.) Though, I certainly do not like them now.
Chiefs Planet is more of a product of poor moderating. You're sugarcoating the tone of that board. It's a notorious board in NFL fandom, as you should know, since you seem to have a proclivity for visiting opposing team's boards.
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4 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
There's some vulgarity, but that's not exactly uncommon on the internet these days. And a lot of it is schtick that people take way too seriously.
Forums are always judged by the loudest voices, but it's silly to generalize a board with so many posters. If somebody goes there to actually talk football respectfully, you'll have a few telling you to go eff yourself, but plenty will oblige.
I've been to a lot of boards. It stands alone - most seem to agree on that from what I've seen.
It was MUCH more than "some vulgarity." I saw so many posts wishing for injury of opposing players. It was dark.
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1 hour ago, SaulGoodman said:
No, that’s not the reason I’m here. But if I see something that I competely disagree with, I’ll probably chime in, like anyone else would.If you don’t go to any other boards, great. But for the record, some Bills fans do post on Chiefs Planet. One of them created a thread to tell KC fans that the Bills would take the AFC this year. Others have created accounts just to troll and mock people. Frankly, I don’t mind. I’ll just give it right back to the trolls. I like some banter with non-KC fans. Gets boring otherwise.
Chiefs Planet is a toxic place. I went there a few times around the 13 seconds game. Will not go back.
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Just now, BillsPride12 said:
Can we hang a banner for being Hypothetically the best team in the league the last 4 years according to Bills fans on message boards and Twitter?
Nope.
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6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
And I will say this @Success I'm happy we have some people to drowned out the Nancie's like myself. It would be pretty miserable if that wasn't the case. But part of the pain of this era is knowing that things can appear a certain way but not actually happen and with remarkable consistency to boot. We can appear like we are the best or that we are ready and then it doesn't work out that way.
No amount of success in the regular season or speculation on what we could be will make me feel like this team is ready. They will be ready when they beat the Chiefs and same goes for the Bengals as they seem to be more difficult for us to match up with.
I'm starting to see the duality of it more & more. Sometimes, I think posters here are too negative, and I have to remind myself that I'm an incurable homer. I defended Whaley all the time on here, and loved trading up for Watkins. I thought Orton was the answer.
I appreciate the back & forth much more now. The "nancies" have actually been right more often than not. Recently, I just feel like things have worked against us. But I get that the end result is really all that matters..
When we get one - WHEN - we'll all celebrate together.
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7 minutes ago, Billl said:
I literally said the exact opposite.
Found it:
Page 2 of the discussion. "I totally disagree with the notion that Beane has built a Super Bowl caliber roster over the past three seasons."
Pretty definitive.
8 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:I remember when I used to play a close friend of mine in basketball. It was always fairly close. Depending on the score you might even say we were just about even. But he rarely won. Somehow I always seemed to win. Always. So you could argue it was close, but it really wasn't. Those couple of points might as well been five times as many for as hard as it was for him to overcome.
If this thread is your version of logical I'm thrilled you don't think I am.
I respect the Chiefs. They're a great team, with a great coach & QB.
But they have had luck we haven't had. With the officiating last year, and w/ injuries this year.
Honest question - really think about the answer: if the Chiefs had the injuries we had on defense going into the playoff game, and we were as healthy as they were: who wins?
Allen needs to mentally overpower Mahomes
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That wasn't the narrative I heard - nationally, or here. Especially not "win comfortably." Personally, I thought there was a chance we could have a good win, but I'm one of the biggest homers here, and got my usual round of laughing & eyeroll emojis. It was nowhere near "prevailing."
As I said: most thought the Bills were too banged up, especially after the losses in the Pitt game. Even your guy Wright said that. And it was a huge concern here on this board.
No offense, but you seems to fabricate a lot of stuff. Or maybe just misremember.