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Isn’t Beane also responsible for the Front Office staff and Scouting Department? He’s responsible for developing that team too right? I am not behind the scenes or know what happens inside those closed doors but I would imagine Beane from day 1 had strong input.

Oh man.... First, PFF win/rate percentage is not an official statistic. It's a PFF journalist who is watching the play and determining whether or not they "won" the pass rush. Amazing how you say sacks aren't a measure of DT but then cite PFF pass rush win rate lol. Not only that, PFF bases their player rankings on the total data they collected and then rank after they grade them. It's not just some PFF journalist randomly coming up with his own rankings. https://www.pff.com/grades PLAYER RANKINGS The grades allow for easy player comparisons, whether using an overall grade or a facet grade. While we believe the grade is an excellent baseline for how well a player performed his given role, we also believe the using the entire context is crucial when evaluating players. GRADES VS. STATS We aren’t grading players based on the yardage they rack up or the stats they collect. Statistics can be indicative of performance but don’t tell the whole story and can often lie badly. WHO IS DOING THE GRADING? PFF employs over 600 full or part-time analysts, but less than 10% of analysts are trained to the level that they can grade plays. Only the top two to three percent of analysts are on the team of “senior analysts” in charge of finalizing each grade after review. Our graders have been training for months, and sometimes years, in order to learn, understand and show mastery of our process that includes our 300-page training manual and video playbook. We have analysts from all walks of life, including former players, coaches and scouts. We don’t care if you played. Well lets take a look at their grades which is how they rank the players. I'm not paying for PFF's site to get the total rankings but here, based on their formula measuring all the DT's....they just give the top 4. Aaron Donald being number 1. Where's Jeffrey Simmons? Well, he's on page 2. https://www.pff.com/nfl/grades/position/di Oh CBS who you keep citing as gospel has him the 7th best defensive player in the league. How is him being the 7th best defensive player in the league mean he's the 2nd best in all the league? "Game-wrecker" and "One of the best defensive players in football" means he's the second best defensive player? Did all 50 of them say it? Send me the link where the consensus is Simmons is only behind Aaron Donald. Great, you posted the tweets again. I guess those opinions are the only one that matters. But Matt LaFleur, said the best defensive players are TJ Watt or Aaron Donald with a honorable mention to Cam Hayward. Let me guess Einstein....Kevin Cole from PFF opinion means more than LaFleur.

He needs to be removed from this board.

Much better. I like watching football in January.

@SDS Can we get this guy off the board after this disgusting take?

Mike Murphy, the SEAL who stood on top of a mountain peak to get a signal to call for help....in front of 200 Taliban. Not elite because he died. Risked his life to help his fellow SEALS, can't look at him as elite. It's totally disgusting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Murphy

It's amazing how confused he is. Then he says a Navy SEAL who is killed isn't an elite solider because he died. How disgusting is that?

Ahhhh...the cherry picking formula. "I will only accept opinions that I agree with!" That always works well lol. I chose PFF because you used multiple tweets that is your evidence that Simmons is the 2nd best defensive player in the league. You appear to have the impression that if a guy tweets how good Simmons is, that means its sufficient evidence he's the 2nd best defensive player lol. The general consensus for all the rankings is that Simmons isn't the 2nd best behind Donald or even close to it. He's barely in the top 10 just for interior lineman. But you feel since you said it and a few PFF tweets say how good he is, it's objective lol. Cherry picking! Lets take a look at your Titans having a better roster than the Bills. The general consensus is the Bills are at the top....1-3. The Titans, the best I've seen is #20. How are other opinions that much off? Like I can see if the Bills were in the top 3 and the Titans were just behind a bit....but that's just not the case. They're pretty much in the bottom half. All these rankings are subjective but you're really reaching when you have to jump the Bills by like 19 spots to overtake their ranking....like really reaching. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-all-32-nfl-rosters-ahead-of-2022-training-camp-bills-buccaneers-chargers-crack-top-five/ https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/34020426/nfl-roster-rankings-all-32-teams-2022-strengths-weaknesses-x-factors-every-starting-lineup https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-roster-rankings-all-32-teams-2022-strengths-weaknesses-x-factors-every-starting-lineup Are you really that arrogant that everyone else is wrong and you're right? You clearly think that with the "the whole forum needs a reading comprehension class". It's clearly a you problem.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2056842-a-homeless-person-reportedly-told-browns-jimmy-haslam-to-draft-johnny-manziel

It's better than "in the hunt".

Yeah I'm done with him after his "are you really elite if you die" when talking about the SEALS. Awful, awful piss poor take.

Create a thread about this and see what kind of response you get. What a POS thing to say. Any Navy SEAL that was killed in battle shouldn't be considered an elite soldier because he died. Literally, the most POS thing to say.

Navy Seals are considered the most elite forces. Therefore, they've never died in battle because they're elite.

So basically, there's only one elite team every year. I don't have your thought process and most don't. You once stated we should use an analytics guy to tell Allen or any QB where to throw the ball mid play. I should have never gotten into a discussion with you after that point after that statement.

Not the definition and the rest of this is just bad.

I'm not debating if he's good or not. I know he's good. I'm debating your claim that he's the 2nd best. "DT's are not ranked by sacks" but then you put a PFF pass rush win rate up there. Hey, PFF ranked us as the best roster in the NFL and the Titan's #20. What are your thoughts on that? They are off by 19 spots? Oh yeah and here's PFF's best interior defensive player ranking. Simmons #9! #9 just among interior lineman LOL! https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-interior-defensive-line-rankings-tiers-2022

Since Tiger Woods was the best golfer for a period of time, I would assume he won the Masters 15 years in a row. Because you know, he was the best.

"one of the most elite rosters"....so you're saying there are other elite rosters in the NFL? No way?! Because not the most elite rosters wins it every year in any sport. Were the Braves the most elite roster in baseball last year? Were the 9-7 Giants the most elite roster when they beat the undefeated Pats? My god dude. It's a team game in which multiple factors come into play.

You have the most one tracked, tunnel vision of any poster in the history of this board. Everything is so black and white with you. I have answered your questions multiple times in other threads and you stick to your one track mind. You have asked this question several times and want an objective answer which there isn't one. It's very weird.

DT sacks in 2021: Jeffrey Simmons - 8.5 Aaron Donald - 12.5 Cam Hayward - 10.0 Chris Jones - 9 As far as career, Jeffrey Simmons has 1.5 sacks more than Ed Oliver and Simmons (according to you) plays on much better DL. I'm using more than that to denigrate your knowledge. What are your thoughts on PFF putting us as the #1 roster in the NFL and the Titans #20? Let me guess. PFF is absolutely correct about Jeffrey Simmons but completely wrong about NFL roster rankings?

With Poyer showing up to camp, I would say the the FO/Agent are at least talking enough where he's satisfied.

Because Einstein says so. He has Jeffrey Simmons as the 2nd best defensive player in the league. He has him better than TJ Watt and Myles Garrett. Einstein lists QB pressures as his evidence for Simmons being the 2nd best defensive player in the league. How about we just talk sacks. Since 2019 (Simmons rookie year) TJ Watt - 51.5 sacks Garrett - 38 Simmons - 13.5 I would say in the top 10, it's pretty even. But teams at the bottom of the barrel, like the Falcons and Texans...there's a big difference.

I would say definitely top 10 interior lineman. I don't have him 2nd best overall in the league only behind Aaron Donald....not even close. PFF has the Bills #1 and the Titans #20.

LOL Thanks for using PFF as your “evidence” Well here’s another PFF ranking…Best NFL Rosters. Bills #1 Titans #20 Well, which PFF rankings are true? https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-roster-rankings-all-32-teams-2022-strengths-weaknesses-x-factors-every-starting-lineup