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They had no real leadership playerwise either. Ryan was a solid quarterback but he wasn't really a "leader of men" like I can see Josh being.

I think we take the East again next season. The Pats are going to take a step back with all their players getting old and having to retool that defense. Jets ain't ready. Miami is going to roll with Tua which will be hilarious.

What? Why?

The defense played soft. Not just the scheme, but tackling was absolutely atrocious. Addison and Hughes love doing this thing where they run around the quarterback and then are too slow and old to contain him in the pocket. Poyer was way too aggressive on Hill's long touchdown; he should have guided him out of bounds, not tried for a tackle. No one jammed Kelce on the line of scrimmage.

Also Vic Fangio is available as a defensive coordinator just saying

It's what's keeping me going. I didn't sleep much last night, too many what-if's going through my head.

Dude grow up. We aren't firing the guy that turned our franchise around completely after a dissapointing game.

Yeah, I'm done defending him. Way too many times he's just jogging in the secondary not covering anyone or hitting the wrong hole on run plays.

I guess we aren't as screwed as the other teams that lost this weekend. Packers are absolutely screwed with their cap situation and Rogers on his way out. Titans are going nowhere with Tannehill Bucs are getting old. Not sure what happens with that roster.

Remember when the defense actually got a stop and Daboll responded by calling three straight run plays? Good stuff.

Not a single player on that defense belongs in the same locker room as Josh Allen.

De'Vondre Campbell is going to be a free agent from the Packers this season. Former all-pro, only 28 years old. GET HIM.

Literally no one outside this forum believes this. National media is raving about this game.

Exactly my thoughts. Both of Mahomes' early scrambles were because Addison ran around him and spun back around instead of containing.

Yeah, I'm sorry. I've defended him until now but he simply doesn't have it mentally.

Absolutely. Wallace is a CB3 at best, Dane Jackson is mediocre so far, Poyer did that stupid thing where he overpursues instead of guiding Hill out of bounds on that long touchdown, etc. Get a better CB to pair with White.

Also, as I've said for two seasons now, LEVI WALLACE IS GARBAGE.

Calling prevent sideline defense like that when slants to Hill are his bread and butter was mind-bogglingly bad coaching.

Trade our first rounder for a bonifide superstar linebacker to go with Milano. Get rid of Edmunds. Cut the old weight on this team - Hughes, Addison, Beasley, etc. Fire Frazier if no one hires him.

That miserable ***** stain was standing there like he was at a funeral. Making no adjustments, not hyping up his players, nothing. Awful, waste of space.

Me too. Maybe I'm still basking in the afterglow of curb stomping New England, or maybe it's because the Titans lost.

2010. Jets beat the Pats and Packers beat the Falcons.

I don't remember one at the end. I saw the 49ers player run through the end zone but didn't see a Packer.

Yuuuuup