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  1. 41 minutes ago, davefan66 said:

     

    Good question.

     

    Allen has played well at times, enough that I’d let him play once he is fully healthy.  He can learn watching, but nothing beats learning while on the field. I believe the kid is mentally tough enough that he won’t be negatively impacted by poor outcomes.  As long as he isn’t seriously injured, which can happen at any time....for example, like walking onto a training camp practice field.

    I agree with you.  I never really understood learning from th side lines thinking.  Anderson was in his ear all afternoon during the game.   Allen has the work ethic and thick skin.  I really believe he will develop into a very good starter. 

  2. 34 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said:

    Honestly this game only adds further fuel to the fire of McD not being able to judge talent.  Teller looked better than Ducasse and Miller in preseason and looked fine but not stellar today. McD has chosen Peterman over TT, AJ, and Allen. Wrong x 3. Jury is still out on Daboll. Gaines started how many games before he was cut.  He never made a play all year.  Multiple other players have been better at CB. Foster is the only guy that can get deep and he cut him and risked losing him. Yes it was a low risk but again it shows he doesn't judge talent well. Lawson looks better each week and better than PED Murphy has ever in a Bills uniform. Murphy doesn't even deserve a roster spot.

     

    Dead money he created because he couldn't or didn't want to coach Dareus and Watkins. 

    Let it go.  That is old news he made the playoffs with those bad moves. Like I said.  Nothing McDermott does will change your mind.  We won today.   Do you want to be miserable? 

  3. 38 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    Great game by Barkley.  From a long term strategic standpoint this is a big deal in that we have landed our back-up QB for the foreseeable future.   But for those saying he should keep starting my take is no way.  Allen should be declared the starter for the Jacksonville game this week unless he regressed in his injury.  Allen should be given as many reps with the 1st team as possible.

     

    In other news Petermen should be cut if Allen is ready to go. 

     

    As an aside, I thought this was the game where Dabold pulled out all the stops and Barkley was clearly the beneficiary of the offensive creativity we saw today.   the only caution I would throw out is that now that some of these plays are on film don't expect them to work as well the next time.  The Jets to me looked like a defense that thought they could just show up and hold the Bills to less then 10 points.  You just can't do that in the NFL. 

     

    The worst thing the Bills organization can do at this time is to not start Allen when he's healthy enough to go.  The give Allen a year train left the station in week 2.  They must have unwavering commitment to Allen as the starter until they know for sure he's not cut out for it.  IMO that would be the rest of this season and all of next season. 

    I tend to agree with you.  Good point.

  4. 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

    Barkley

    Allen

    Anderson

     

    By Nate.  Nic guy, but not an NFL QB.  I wouldn’t even put him on the PS.  We have a week off so Anderson will be ok.  If Barkley falters, then you go back to Allen.

    This is a interesting situation.   I posed this question in another thread.  Do the Bills go back to the original plan and start Barkley and let Allen learn from the sidelines or do they start Allen after the bye week? 

  5. 1 hour ago, davefan66 said:

    He Looked good.  If he keeps this up, locked in the backup position.  Bye, bye Peterman.

     

    Hopefully our coaching staff doesn’t coach what he did out of him.  He seemed to just play.  Not a robot doing what he was told. Had command of the huddle and winged it.

    This raises the question, does Barkley remain the starter and we go back to our original plan to let Allen learn from the sidelines the rest of this year?  Or do we start Allen after the bye week?

  6. 9 hours ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said:

    In an era where qb busts are down and offensive penalties are up have we seen the last of truly elite defenses.   Are the  2013 Seattle Seahawks the last  dominant game changing defense we will ever see in the NFL. The 69 Vikings, the 69 chiefs,  The 76 Steelers, the 85 Bears, the 86 giants, the 91 eagles, the 2000 ravens, the 2002 bucs, and 2013 Seahawks all were defenses that in their own right could win multiple games.  In the near future we will see slot receivers playing for twice as long and putting up twice the numbers , running backs rushing for 2000 yards a year will be common ground, qbs will be playing longer than punters, and the days of a dominant bone crushing defense that instills fear into the offensive opponent will be a distant memory . Hopefully we savored and truly appreciated the 13 Seahawks because the NFL has morphed into something new and that is a part of the game that Will never be seen again.

    No.

  7. 2 hours ago, cgg716 said:

    It’s a nice win, feels good to have one. Did many good things, but also something interesting came to light I think. This is not a tank and it never was. A QB came right off the street, limited playbook and played a competent game. Easy opponent sure, but competent nonetheless. Blaming the talent holds a little less weight now 

     

    To me it’s proof that they were attempting to win all along and honestly believed, first that Mccarron couldn’t, then that Peterman could, then Anderson. Didn’t see fit to retain or acquire a true no 2 QB behind Allen at a minimum. Not because they weren’t trying to win, but because they honestly thought they had one. So I still worry about how they will handle the rest of the offense. Cross your fingers 

    I doubt anything would erase your concerns.  McDermott coached a team that over achieved to the playoffs in his first year.  This was to be a tear down year to get out from under our dead money.  We could win five or six games this year.  Your expectations are unrealistic. 

  8. 14 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

    And probably millions of dollars by playing him and making him a whipping boy/punchline.

     

    Looking at the list of NFL back-ups and third-stringers, NP could well have been a very competent back-up QB and one of the greatest pre-season practise players of all-time.  Four years as a back-up with almost no NFL playing time and yes maybe he would have learned, watched and then was given an opportunity much more mature and capable.  Maybe he would have succeeded.

     

    Look at his predecessor Tyrod Taylor.

     

     
    Very simply I feel somewhat sorry for Peterman and blame McD for creating this sham that all started with him and his dismantling of the O in 2017 and the terrible offensive coaching and playcalling.
      
    They are to blame for putting Peterman in when he wasn't ready and not giving him the tools (players and schemes) to succeed and ruining what as said could have been a nice career as a buck-up.

    I say this in the kindest was possible.   You are delusional.

  9. 5 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

     

    You've got Stockholm syndrome my friend.

     

    You don't ship out all those pieces last year, accumulate picks then decide because you won a few games you'll give up a third for Benjamin. You don't draft a QB surround him with nothing, ship out a good tackle because you drafted a decent tackle. You don't take after you get the QB and MLB.

     

    It's not a tank. That's a very convenient excuse for what this is. This is ineptitude.

    Why keep looking in the past.   That accomplishes absolutely nothing.   It is so much better to look forward.   Each to his own. 

  10. 28 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

    Nate played QB last week?    (prior to DA getting concussed at the final 2 Minutes) 

    Or in the COLTS game? 

     

    The last TD pass was by Nate to Zay in the Houston game.

    The TD that broke the streak was Nate on a QB sneak.

     

    We all know Nate isn't THE guy. But changing what was doesn't help in any discussion. 

     

    There is still hope.    :ph34r:

    Sorry.   These inept qb outings all run together.   It is just a blur to me.  Peterman / Anderson..  What difference does it make.  Neither one has any future with this team, hopefully.

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  11. 5 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said:

    If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back?

     

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    My feeling is that he had a loaded defense from the previous coach and he destroyed it.  He seemed that he did not have any viable plan.  He hired his brother.   He was a clown.  Just a few examples. Just my opinion. 

  12. 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

    The bills are doing exactly what they are trying to do get a top 5 pick in this next draft

     

    i don’t like how bad they look on offense either but the fact is they are trying to avoid overpaying for free agents in the offseason to fix this mess

     

    you do that by drafting high because less of a chance to screw it up

     

    This season is LOST it was always going to be LOST if you can get your mind wrapped around that it will help with your sanity

     

    It does not matter if you lose by 1 or 100 a loss is a loss

     

    This team is tanking so it can acquire blue chip talent and not have to pay for it they are going to target specific free agents and draft at the big money positions

     

    be patient

     

     

     

     

     

    You expressed my feelings exactly.  The over reactions each week I find very comical.  The season is hard to take, but we have to keep our eyes on the future.

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  13. 8 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

    Peterman wasn’t great, but today he was far from the reason that they lost.

     

    If he has to play next week, i could watch.  3 turnovers were not his fault at all.  One bumbled pick courtesy of Pryor, one uncalled PI and another deflection INT and finally, completion and fumble by Croom.

     

    i am not delusional to the point that I think Peterman is good, but he was far from the worst part of this offense today.

    I agree with you. But he does not raise the level of the players around him.  I still believe in Allen's future.  Peterman is not an NFL caliber qb.  We need to move on from him when our other qb's are available to play.   He has thrown 3tds -8 ints.  His completion percentage is 45.7%.  Qb rating of 31.4.  Just because he got some bad breaks on his ints today does not absolve him of his consistent poor play.   Just my opinion.

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