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This is pure horse hockey. McD knew the last draft that the line wasn't good enough when he drafted Dawkins in the second round to replace Mills. Then when Glenn went down with an injury Dawkins replaced him at LT and played well. That still doesn't change the fact that this FO had the 2018 draft and free agency to replace some of the absolute scrubs on that line. Groy is one of the very worst centers and Miller was just about as bad. (Bodine gotta be better.) Neither player should be starting on an NFL team. There are better players out there and for some reason, this FO didn't/won't go after them. I find it hard to believe that there isn't a center or offensive guard out there on somebody's practice squad better than Groy, Miller. The team should be looking at a signing a veteran QB and cutting Peterman too. WR Dez Bryant T Austin Howard OG Jahri Evans QB Matt Moore QB Paxton Lynch

Bills fans just don't see how bad that line is even after watching all the QB pressures, sacks on the Bills QB starters for the Browns, Bengals, Ravens games. It's not just the line either as the receivers aren't getting separation or getting open a lot of the time. Then fans complain that the QB is holding the ball too long. I doubt very many NFL starting QB's would survive for very long behind the current Bills offensive line. The OC Groy was on his back most of the game and Miller was just about as bad. We can see it so I don't get why Beane/ McD don't see it

We're gonna know pretty quick if he starts the game out with that pass first, quick strike crap. This is not a strong passing team and it doesn't take a brainiac to see that much. The Bills need to get Shady involved in the run game first and then into open space in the passing game.

I agree to a point. Kim and Terry run this team and although they may listen to the fans quite a bit I kinda doubt they will follow with what the fans want. But C'mon Pickerman was beyond pathetic... as was the offensive line, as were the receivers, as was Daboll, as was the defense for a while, as was special teams. It's tough to win in the NFL when the entire team looks undisciplined, unprepared at first. The team came around but it was already out of hand and too late.

We can only hope for Allen's sake that Daboll removes his cranium from his posterior long enough to stop with the quick strike, pass-first offense and does pound the rock. The sad fact is we don't know what the Bills coaches are planning. But I can tell you that the entire Charger defense must be drooling at the thought of sending a blitz every play until Allen learns how to beat it. All they gotta do is watch that Cincy/Raven film to see that Groy and Miller are worthless.

You can start an NFL rookie QB or a steaming turd. Regardless I still don't want to start that rookie QB behind a historically bad offensive line. That OC and RG have no business starting an NFL game or even being backups for that matter.

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Are you referring to the USFL team or his start with the 1986 Bills? Because if it's the Bills the reason for the 4-12 season was because the team started 2-7 under Hank Bullough and finished 2-5 under Marv. That team was far from horrible as they had Andre Reed, Pete Metzelaars, Rob Riddick, and on the line Ken Jones, Jim Ritcher, Kent Hull, Will Wolford, Joe Devlin. That was a darn near a great offensive line. Kelly was learning the NFL ropes and threw for 3593 yards with 22 TDs, 17 INTs. If Allen had anything remotely close to that kind of talent on the line I'd be calling for him to start too.

may he rest in peace The Bills have a young Aaron Rodgers and now seemed determined to ruin him. At the end of the year most Bills fans will probably be saying he was never any good anyway.

Also coached by our terrible OC who wants to run a pass first, quick strike offense with a pair of noobies at QB. I only hope at some point he realizes he doesn't have a Tom Brady / Aaron Rodgers at QB and needs to run the ball to give either QB a chance to play well.

You would think that if this coaching staff knew what they were doing that this would have happened already. Don't get me wrong here guys as I'm not championing Nate Peterman as I think he is probably the very worst Buffalo Bills QB ever. I just don't want to see that rookie QB ruined! Peterman sucks and if the team still had AJ McCarron or even Paxton Lynch, Matt Moore I'd say start them and let the rookie sit and learn.

It is confusing to me too. Looking at how poorly the offensive line has played all preseason and in that Ravens game. Both Groy and Mills shouldn't be starting or even backups for that matter. Looking at this receiver corps and their inability to get separation or get open a lot of the time. Looking at how Josh Allen played as the starter in that Cincy game and how Peterman played as the starter in the Ravens games leaves me to think this coaching staff doesn't have a freaking clue. Not to mention trading away AJ McCarron and not replacing him with another veteran QB.

What most Bills fans should know by now is that the opposing defense usually lets up somewhat when a different QB enters the game as they didn't game plan for him. Which is why I think the Bills should start Peterman for at least the Chargers and Vikings. Peterman is expendable and it won't matter to kill his confidence by pulling him. OTOH, you don't want to start Allen and then EJ him by pulling him for Peterman if things go horribly wrong like they did against Cincy. If this FO isn't going to fix that offensive line by finding a real NFL center and right guard then I suppose it won't matter who they start.

But he has proven that he isn't ready to run that quick strike, fast-paced offense. He proved it against the Bengals. He might be okay if the Bills went to a run first offense.

Why, because Allen didn't look so bad in relief of Peterman just like Peterman didn't look so bad in relief for the Browns, Bengals?

Ahh, how soon we all forget that Cincy game in which Allen was under such heavy pressure he went 6 of 12 for only 34 yards and was sacked 5 times IN THE FIRST HALF! He was sacked for more yards then he threw for... I hope Allen sits until Pickerman throws his picks and then Allen comes n.

I disagree with this as this HC was able to get his team in the playoffs for the first time in 17 years and I doubt Pegs will pull the plug after only one losing season. I think McD has three more years... unless of course, the Bills play all year like they did against the Ravens as I don't think any owner could take many of those 47-3 blowouts.

Believe it or not, some believe Ducasse had the best game of all the linemen despite the two penalties. Both tackles played decently and the real liabilities were at OC and RG as both Miller and Groy struggled badly. Wait until Mills has to face a really good DE like Bosa or Mack as he will show how bad he really is. You're right though, as I would also replace every player on that line save Dawkins.

I had no initial fears as he was touted as getting a brilliant offensive mind that studied under Belichick, Saban. One week does not define a career so I'm willing to see how he does going forward. If he wants his offense to work he had better get that run game going because his QB's are far too raw to run some advanced pass first, hurry up offense.

Dawkins at LT is by far. Mills still stinks and we would be able to see that more clearly if the middle of the line wasn't so weak. Ducasse, Groy, Miller all suck just as bad. The thing is the quickest path is a straight line.

When you think about it McD drafted Dion Dawkins to replace Mills at RT and once Glenn went out Dawkins replaced him at LT admirably. Now going into 2018 they knew that Mills was bad so why not make another move to replace him again? There was the draft and free agency. Okay, so money is tight this year. Be freaking creative and sign some talent to protect that QB you gave up so much to get! I honestly don't get the thinking here...it's like Doug Whaley with no veteran QB on the roster to help these young QBs and allowing them to play behind one of the very worst offensive lines I've seen in Buffalo. This! It's so very difficult for me to comprehend not building a top offensive line to protect that shiny new toy at QB, or to build it to have a strong run game to help out the defense. I just don't get it!

I get the impression that McD/Beane are happy with the status quo on the line or they would have made some moves by now. It really makes no sense that they haven't made a move considering what that starting O line looked like against the Browns, the Bengals, the Ravens. There really is no excuse why they haven't even attempted to bring someone with better talent in than Vlad the horrible. How many drive killing penalties will it take, how many sacks and will they wait until it's too late and both QB's are in concussion protocol?

He should have fired him after last year. Juan must have some compromising pics... Oh, and we don't need an all-22 to know that Pickerman stinks and had the worst performance by a Buffalo Bills QB that I can remember

Ahhh, how short our memories are. Josh Allen started against the Bengals and didn't look that much better then Pickerman did against the Ravens. Allen 6 of 12 for 34 yards, 5 sacks and went through near concussion protocol after one half against Cincy... Peterman is expendable, Allen is not! .

I'm hoping that the coaches remember what Allen looked like in that Cincy preseason game in which he had no time to throw. Allen went 6 of 12 for 34 yards in the first half and was sacked 5 times and almost needed to go into concussion protocol. While not looking as bad as Peterman did against the Ravens. I don't want to see this bright young QB ruined. Whereas Nate Pickerman is expendable.