Nihilarian

The other 2% goes to the receivers who can't get any separation

WTF 5 sacks on Allen. BEANE YOU SUCK!

At this point can we trade the entire O line for another line? Maybe Alabama?

Welp the line can run block now and again, darn shame they can't learn to pass block

Brady and Bilicheat are smiling big right now...

That's funny, Rosen would already be on IR if he were a Bill. As it is he is already nursing a bad thumb in Arizona.

Vlad the horrible...

Peterman will come in and play well against the Bengals 2nd and 3rd stringers ...yay! So he gets the start against the Ravens! The Bills will hold services the next week...

Not thrilled with the O line coach either as he should have gone with last years OC.

NEED a MACK attack!

I'm not faulting Allen as those two pass plays were the first in the game that he actually had time to throw. It doesn't help that they were in a 13-yard hole from a lineman penalty

Both he and Peyton Manning were exceeding lucky to survive their rookie seasons. Still, their lines had some actual NFL players and not this slew of scrubs.

The Bills need an actual NFL center more than an LG...they need an LG, C, RG, RT and I'm not certain Dawkins will hold up this season

My thoughts exactly, and this is the Bengals defense. Not the Ravens. Not the Chargers. Not the Vikings.

For those who still think this offensive line will be okay this season 1...2...3...PUNT

Lord that Bills center sucks

He has also faced 2nd and 3rd string defenses...

so much for that vaunted Bills secondary...

You could also argue that all those first round QB's that went to bad teams down through the history of the NFL also weren't that good to begin with. Josh Freeman, Mark Sanchez, JaMarcus Russell, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Byron Leftwich, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Cade McNown, Ryan Leaf, Heath Schuler, Rick Mirer, David Klinger, Andre Ware, Kelly Stouffer, Todd Blackledge, Art Schlichter, Jack Thompson, Jerry Tagge... Anyway, Bills fans have selective memories for the most part... probably due to all the imbibing. In 2008 the Buffalo Bills started the season 4-0 by beating the Seahawks, Jags, Raiders, and Rams. After that fourth game, this board was going nuts while being flooding with Bills fans going mental on how good Trent Edwards looked! And a lot of fans were comparing him to a young Joe Montana...seriously! That is a very far cry from how his life as a Buffalo Bill ended. Edwards career was basically ended in the very next game in Arizona as Cards defender Adrian Wilson came unblocked and helmet to helmet drove Edwards into the turf. Needless to say that Trent suffered a very severe concussion and while he sat out the rest of this game. Trent went on to play the rest of the season and even won the next game against the Chargers with the Bills going 5-1. The Bills went 2-8 the rest of the season and Trent became Trentitive in that time. Concussion protocals are so different now and I'd have to think that in today's game Edwards would have sat out most of the rest of that season or ever all of it. In my view and in many others that severe concussion was the start of Trent Edwards downward spiral. NOW, go back and look at that hit in the Cleveland game in which an unblocked Browns defender comes untouched to sack and fling Josh Allen on his head. Yes, Allen is bigger and stronger while probably tougher then Edwards. Still, QB's like Aaron Rodgers that have been knocked out of games and even missed parts of seasons due to concussions. Bottom line: I'd really like to see Allen survive this season to lead this franchise to a championship.

It's not silly to me when I can remember Ryan Fitzpatrick literally running for his life for most of the first half of the 2010 season. You know, the season Buddy Nix stated that "you're going to think I'm crazy. But we're not that far away." Then the team started 0-8 and finished 4-12. To me, that 2010 offensive line looks better than this slew of scrubs.

Who said anything about trading him? I was saying keep the rookie on the bench for at least the first four regular-season games considering how formidable those defenses are. You know, so he survives to actually become a franchise QB.

Oh boy, how soon we forget about JP Losman, Trent Edwards, EJ and the last 20 or so QB's since the Jim Kelly days. JP was shell-shocked at the end and seeing phantom sackers. Edwards was concussed into oblivion. EJ was never given the chance to fully develop for several reasons and so on and so on down through the years. If you were to look back at the history of this franchise they built a quality offensive line three times in that 50+ year history and in those three times one was the AFL championship teams, one was during Chuck Knox's time and the last was the super bowl era. Knox came to Buffalo and he inherited a decent line from the Electric Co/OJ days and in 1980 going into his third year in Buffalo he drafted an OG by the name of Jim Richter in the first round who ended up playing in the NFL 15 years. He was a stalwart LG all through those super bowl years too. Bill Polian drafted a pro bowl LT by the name of Will Wolford and brought in a center by the name of Kent Hull who went on to become an all-pro. Jack Kemp had some great lines, Joe Ferguson had some decent lines and Kelly had some really good lines. If you want this young man to develop properly you can't send him to the wolves and hope he survives it like Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman did. Because so, so many other bright young QB's didn't survive throughout the years. Beane and McD look to be smart enough to know that since they made the playoffs last season there really isn't great pressure to win games this season. Do they want to, sure! Do they want to ruin* the future franchise QB, no! Lastly, looking at the limited amount of time AJ McCarron had in the pocket against the Browns starting defense and how little yards McCoy gained against them I'm thinking that Buffalo Bills starting line is worse than godawful. Allen played against the Browns second string. I'm also thinking that the Bengals defense is better than the Browns defense.

I want him to look great to show up the other rookie QB's. OTOH I'm sorta hoping he falls on his face so the team starts Peterman for those first four brutal defenses. Ravens, Chargers, Vikings, Packers. Let Nate get his butt kicked so his fans will start to say time for something different or perhaps he'll play great and Allen can actually sit and learn this year. Either way, I don't want to see that #7 pick wasted by having him get shell-shocked behind that crappy Bills line.

That's one take. Another is that when Chuck Knox built a playoff team by their third year he did it by building through the draft but he also brought in some older vets as "rah rah" guys like ex-Rams LBer Isiah Robertson, ex-Steelers WR Frank Lewis to bring in leadership to that young team. I realize the team already has Kyle Williams, although this might be his last season. In my view, there is no timetable for a talent like Mack as he will instantly change the dynamic of the defense with his pass rush. The Bills already have a top secondary but it won't be as effective if there is little or no pass rush. With Mack, opponents will game plan around stopping him and from what I've seen that won't be happening.

If you say it like this... The Bills traded their 9th overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft along with a 2015, 1st round pick, and a 2015 4th round pick to move up to 2014, #4 overall spot to select Sammy Watkins. The Buffalo Bills SPENT two firsts and a fourth on Watkins.