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Wow, maybe the worst pick of Beane’s tenure. It was during the COVID draft and lots of teams made lots of mistakes without the normal scouting procedure so there is that. But drafting DE in Rd 1 and 2 was silly.
Excited for Kingsley Jonathan bc I think this is a move they made to clear a spot on the roster for him.
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50 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:
Good post, regardless of opinions. Maybe just not the right player, as I think Elam has more trade value/potential scheme transition.
I still like Elam, and it's a good problem to have (depth at CB). But, it becomes a distraction in some ways when you have a 1st round talent on the bench/possibly not dressing on gameday.
Certain positions make sense to have a rotation. I'm just not a huge fan of rotating players in secondary though (for a few main reasons), unless it's specific subpackages/down and distance situations.
Hopefully whoever wins the CB2 battle provides a consistent presence/solid play. Best chance of that, from what I saw in preseason, has been Benford or Dane. Benford is a better player IMO (higher ceiling).
If it was my call, I'd be hesitant to move Elam or any of the DBs right now. Ultimately, Dane might be the only one I'd be willing to shop. Less value than Elam, but we know his ceiling and it's not a SB-defense CB2 caliber player. I'd think he would be a backup RT trade piece.
*edit*: what happens if Benford is CB2?
Path 1: Dane is CB3 (outside), Elam might not dress some weeks.
Path 2: we trade Dane (let's say hypothetically for a backup RT), Elam as CB3, JaMarcus Ingram makes roster and likely reserve/sits on gameday
I'd vote Path 2, improve at backup RT and keep a versatile player like Ingram (over 1 year Dane).
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18 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Thought I heard yesterday big return was on Tyrell Shavers .....
Shavers let the block punt happen. Shorter got a little too aggressive and lost contain on his lane for the long return. The block he took on got in the way and wound up wiping out most of the backside pursuit. -
Kincaid despite getting blown up on his block on the Harty swing pass, also drew a holding in the Endzone and had the long pass interference. Doesn’t show up on the stat sheet but both were huge plays that you see veterans make.
It is pretty obvious, and maybe does not need to be mentioned, but Diggs was phenomenal. And interestingly, he got a lot of slot snaps with Harty playing outside. And he dominated. If people were not sure whether to draft him in the first round of your fantasy draft, do it. I think we are in for the best season of his career.
I also don’t feel Shorter has done much to earn a roster spot, this was the second time he lost contain on the outside which set up a huge returns. He and Rapp were the culprits last week too. Unfortunately, Shavers allowed the punt block too and Isabella fumbled his return (though I do see him out there on kick coverage trying his best). So no potential WR6 stepped up on that side of the ball so I think it default will go to Shorter.
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8 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:
Well, there's the rub. Watching play-by-play, it wasn't as bad as it's being made out to be. That should be in the synopsis. And there were guys who outperformed expectation - Anderson most notably, but also Van Demark and Broeker.
I appreciate your post, I went back and watched the series where Josh was in and came out of it with the same conclusion…the line wasn’t that bad. Our interior looks better than it has in a long time. And Torrence is the first piece now in place of building a really good line in the future, he looked very good.Dawkins will be ok, Brown is the weakest link (and hopefully gets upgraded next year) but I don’t think that is going to be a big problem for the offense. It was an ugly game overall, but when you break it down into individual plays, things were not that bad.
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4 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:
I'm expecting he's gonna be the outlier as a rookie Te that does break a lot of rookie TE records.
I think you are right. The thing with rookie tight ends is that few have a mix of talent and situation to succeed right away. If you look at the history of first round tight ends it is littered with them going to mediocre teams or teams with mediocre QBs. Landing with the Bills and Josh Allen gives Kincaid a real chance to be productive quickly.-
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I missed the first half originally but just finished rewatching the starters. After watching I don’t think this is a big deal.
Dodson is not a good MLB. On the TD run, the Dline did not keep him clean but he should have had that gap imo. Also doesn’t seem to know what to do while dropping in coverage. I think Bernard is the starter once he is healthy enough.
We all gripe about the resources the Bills put into ST, but that long return was a result of Shorter and Rapp not keeping their lanes. Shorter got pushed way outside as the gunner and Rapp cut inside for some reason leaving a huge hole for Austin.
I am no Spencer Brown fan, but the holding penalty play is the one bad play he had. He got called for the illegal block on the screen to Harty, and maybe it was, but I didn’t think it was an egregious play. But all together they did kill that drive. Dawkins got beat a few times, but I didn’t think he was awful either. Thought the rest of the line was pretty solid against a good Steelers front.
Also, maybe I just didn’t see him out there but it felt like Knox did not play tonight. Some of the stuffs that Cook had was because of Gabe getting blown up by Minkah Fitzpatrick and Quentin Morris getting beat inside. Kincaid I thought did ok as a blocker in the few snaps. Having him and Knox may help things.
I do think the McGovern, Torrence (found him to be very good tonight!), and Kincaid are going to be very good for us this year.
I know it stinks to lose, even in preseason, but I didn’t really see anything that makes me think this team won’t be very good. I think this offense is going to be great if everyone (looking at you Gabe) can stay healthy and I think the MLB and ST issues will get less glaring the more the team plays together.
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Poor tommy
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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
If Isabella wins the returner job (not sure he will, he has never been a dynamic returner really) then I think there is a world in which it is Shakir that is in trouble if they like Shorter on coverage teams. I just wonder whether you can afford to hold a #5 wide receiver who doesn't do anything on special teams? We know Sherfield is going to play some teams, so maybe you can and Shorter misses out but it gets dicey for Shakir if someone other than Harty wins that return job....
It certainly will be interesting.
We lost Kumerow, Taiwan Jones and Jaquan Johnson and Dodson or Bernard will not be able to be special teamers if they are the starting MLB. To backfill those teams snap, it will likely be Dorian Williams, Damar, Sherfield some (tho his offensive role may be too great), and then WR6.
So I think you are right that Isabella is basically competing for the WR5 (non-gunner) spot with Shakir. He would need to be the best PR on the roster to unseat Shakir in that instance. I think it is the PS for Isabella as insurance for any Harty injury assuming he isn’t picked up elsewhere.
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Just going off who Isabella was as a college prospect, I had him head and shoulders over his main roster spot competition Shorter (honestly Shorter was an UDFA level player for me).
I don’t think the Bills will keep a street FA over Shorter this year though - it’s just not their style. The only way it happens is if Isabella proves himself amazing at PR to make it more valuable than keeping a gunner like Shorter or even Shavers. As silly as it may seem sometimes, WR6 has to be worth it on special teams for this organization.
Hopefully we can keep both Isabella and Shavers on the PS if they go this route. But def rooting for him to show enough to make the team.
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2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:
I haven't been following the offseason or camp too closely. Is this a big loss with regards to tackle depth? I thought Shell was considered someone that could potentially start if needed. How's he looked in comparison to Tommy Doyle? And I would think this bodes well for Gouriage making the team?
Not a big loss based on what I have read from camp-
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
As far as i know, that's not really a thing that any team does long term. Most years, the top 12 personnel team runs it around 30% of their plays, in 2021 Miami was an outlier at 61% and in 2019 the eagles ran it 52%. Neither one of those teams were very good either. That aside, it still means that a big weapon for your team is off the field on 40-50% of offensive snaps.
1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:I think this team IS going to do that long term. The reason the Dolphins did it so much in 2021 was the exact reason the Bills will end up there by, at latest, the middle of next year. And the Eagles the same in 2019. They had Mike Gesicki and Zach Ertz respectively who were among their top 3 pass catchers but who are tight ends in name only. The Bills are going to in that bracket with Kincaid and he has the talent to be way better than Gesicki and I personally believe a little better than Ertz too. The Ravens in 2019 used either 12 or 21 (and in Roman's system there is a considerable cross over between the two) 60%+ as well.
It happens rarely because situations where a team has a Dawson Knox and a Dalton Kincaid are rare. There are not many teams in football that could honestly say "two of our top four receivers are tight ends." I would be shocked if, health permitting, the Bills are not at 60%+ 12 personnel by the middle of 2024 at the latest. They could even get there this year if Saturday was an indicator of anything (that remains to be seen).
EDIT: I tried to find the Pats personnel groupings in 2011 when they had Gronk and Hernandez but it appears to be before the majority of the analytics sites were tracking it. However, just looking at usage and targets and some of the media coverage that talks about the Pats being "predominantly" a 2TE offense I suspect it was way up there. Again to me the reality is it is just rare that a team genuinely has two tight ends who are better receivers than their third wide receiver. But if Kincaid is anything like what we think he can be the Bills will definitely be one of those teams.
In 2011, Gronk and Hernandez were on the field for 94% and 77% of the snaps respectivelyhttps://www.espn.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4717950/final-offensive-snap-counts
The 2015 Panthers with both McDermott and Dorsey may be the best example of what this season could look like as Olson and the inferior Ed Dixon were on the field for 95% and 54% of snaps. Knox is and I expect Kincaid will be better than Dixon ever was.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/2015-snap-counts.htm
It is a relatively small sample because it is pretty rare a team has enough tight ends good enough to be worthwhile to have them on the field. It is cool to think about the possibilities.
I don’t think Kincaid has to be amazing this year either to be nearly as successful as the two teams that made the Super Bowl of this list. The Bills also have Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis (who would be the best WR2 by a mile on any of the Pats or Panthers team) and James Cook who I think his home run ability on the ground will be a crucial aspect of keeping teams honest this year. At full health this team is stacked.
Giving us heavier formation looks to improve the running game, getting 500-700 yards from Kincaid and having some timely catches in the playoffs may be all that is needed from him to make a big difference this year.
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5 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:
Is there some reason you don't think he's on the hot seat? I guess I wouldn't bet $100 either way, but if I had to lean in one direction I'd think that multiple Patriot beat reporters saying the same thing means something.
Time will tell.
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He is 19 wins away from passing Shula for most wins of all time (regular season and post season combined). I think they give him 2 more seasons to break that and then ride off barring a huge collapse this season.-
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4 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:
Lets put this in perspective. Rapp #20 runs a 40-yard dash in an unofficial 4.74
Kincaid must not of had a good running day cause Kincaid Ran a 4.64 and looks way way faster then Rapp on the field.
If Kincaid is going to blow by Safeties in this league? What in gods earth is he going to do to most LB's? To big for a CB, way to fast for a LB. To shifty for a LB
Getting me excited.
I don’t think Kincaid ran pre draft because of his back injury. But he said he would have run a 4.5 for what that is worth. Dude is definitely fast looking.-
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He would be as close to a Beasley replacement as there is, but I think he would likely end up in New Orleans or elsewhere on a bigger contract than we could offer. Kincaid/Shakir/Hardy will be our slot players this year.
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28 minutes ago, Process said:
Cool
Not gonna lie, I'm a sucker. This will probably get me to buy the game for the first time in years.
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I’m certainly not against signing Ed long term like this, but I think letting him play out his contract year and then having the franchise tag in your pocket if he popped was the best move. The justification for doing this now would be if we were making more cap room to add a DHop or other piece whatever that may be. But I think they just value him more than most on the board do.
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1 minute ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
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6 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
Loved it.
And they were respectful to the Bills.
Love the vaping McDaniels also.
I liked the Chiefs fan bankrobber running away from the cops hahah-
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Does anyone know what changed that there is now four MNF doubleheaders when it was normally one?
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3 minutes ago, Process said:
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Week 1 MNF for us
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7 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:
It was actually 16-2 but yeah, his hands are unreal.35-4 includes his FCS production
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Boogie traded to Giants
in The Stadium Wall
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Yea, basically Boogie was going to be cut. He would have been claimed by some team. Doing the late round pick swap is basically just a way to route Boogie to the preferred destination.