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  1. 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

    The biggest story out of day two of the 2025 NFL draft is undoubtedly the Shedeur Sanders slide. But I think everyone is pretty much bored of it by this point, so that is the only mention it will get in this debrief.... let's get on with the show!

     

    The Bills Picks...

    The Bills went into day 2 with two picks in the second round as a result of the Stefon Diggs trade last year. They sat at #56 and #62 and their pre-draft activity indicated pretty strongly it was going to be a day for defensive line. Most of us expected a defensive tackle and a defensive end and that's exactly what happened, though not quite the way we imagined. Let's start with the trade up for TJ Sanders. By the Jimmy Johnson chart the Bills gave up a points value of 700 and in return they got a points value of 721. By the Rich Hill chart the Bills gave up a points value of 212 and in return they got a points value of 214. I don't know how often that happens that the team trading UP wins trade by points value on both commonly used draft value charts but it is pretty safe to assume it isn't that often. So the trade was a win. To get up 15 spots in round 2 without sacrificing a day two pick is good business. Then the selection - TJ Sanders was one of my guys. I loved his film. He has great hands (those who have read my stuff over the years know how much I value that in defensive linemen), a rapid first step and long arms that help him win quickly. He was my 7th best available player at the point the Bills drafted him and once you remove from that the three guys who were slipping for injury/character reasons - Mike Green, Will Johnson and Shavon Revel - he was the 4th best remaining and another of those ahead of him was Trey Amos which would have been an unlikely double dip at corner. I know some of the draft sites were not as high on him but trust me this guy is a really, really good football player with 8.5 sacks and 18 tackles for loss over his two years as a starter for South Carolina. And this wasn't a guy racking up stats in the out of conference games against Mount Union, this was a guy making plays against Georgia, Florida, Clemson, Oklahoma and Clemson. The one question I think it is fair for someone who doesn't like this pick to ask is "what percentage of snaps are you going to get for your investment?" because he is overwhelmingly a 3Tech defensive tackle, playing the same spot as Ed Oliver who the last two seasons has played c.70% of the Bills defensive snaps. He did do some 1Tech in 2023 but he is not as effective there, ehile his technique against the run is solid I think he struggles to anchor against double teams and is too easily moved off his spot to play a lot of 1Tech in base. So he has to be the guy who plays all the snaps when Ed comes out - and while the first two thirds of last season was some of Ed Oliver's poorest football as a Bill, when he is on - as he was at the end of the year - you definitely notice the difference in the Bills ability to push the pocket when he is off the field. You also have to commit to getting him onto the field with Ed Oliver in 3rd down passing situations. If I see 3rd and 4s or longer where the Bills still have Daquan Jones or DeWayne Carter in the game other than when the opposition is in no huddle and stopping you subbing I will be asking serious questions of both the coaches and Beane and his crew because that would be a serious disconnect. It also raises a few questions for me about what they do with Larry Ogunjobi once he is off his suspension. @gonzo1105 discussed that in our collab mock pod so I won't repeat it all here but yet again I didn't love Beane's free agency approach to the position. One final point... I said it last night, but will repeat here... anyone thinking Sanders would have got to #56 is mistaken in my view. I'm convinced the Bills moved up to gazump the San Francisco 49ers who we know have a need at defensive tackle (both spots but more so at 3T) and we know they did a lot of work on guys who fit Sanders profile. They were heavily linked with Walter Nolan who is a similar type in round 1 and they had Sanders himself in for a top 30 visit. Two picks after Sanders was selected by Buffalo they picked a defensive tackle in Alfred Collins who they didn't meet with and who fills their less egregious need - I'm 95% sure the Bills stole their guy. But overall, my take on this is it is a very good pick. He is a really good player and when he is on the field he is capable of making game altering plays for the Bills defense. 

     

    Moving onto Landon Jackson. I'm surprised he made it to #72. I wasn't as high on him as some of the hype that had him even sneaking into the end of round 1 midway through draft season, he was a 2nd/3rd borderline grade on my board but by the time the Bills selected him he was my 10th best remaining and again at least two of the guys ahead of him by my board - Isaiah Bond and Shavon Revel - were sliders for character/injury reasons. So Jackson represented great value where the Bills got him. I've already said elsewhere but will repeat here for the record that part of the slide was likely about scheme fits. I think he only really suits 4-3 defenses that like to use bigger base ends in tighter alignments - and when I watched Beane's post day 2 presser this morning almost the first words out of his mouth about Jackson were "base end." I do wonder if this might mean using Greg Rousseau more in some wider alignments - even some 9Tech. They did do more of that last year under Bobby Babich than they have done previously and I think if you are lining Groot and Jackson up as your two defensive ends in some base packages that is probably how you get the best from them as a combination. Obviously they have Joey Bosa and AJ Epenesa to factor into that rotation too, but it bears watching as to ways they align them when the season begins. Jackson is definitely the Bills type. Length - 92nd percentile in terms of wingspan - and heavy hands. He has a vicious rip move and a relentless motor. The knocks on his game for me are that he is a bit stiff as an athlete. The tape doesn't quite show the 4.69 speed he demonstrated at the Combine and it was noticeable that he skipped the agility testing because I think that would have been less than stellar. His height also means he sometimes struggles with leverage and pad level in the run game and he didn't always finish when around the Quarterback as well as you'd want... but I think there is some ceiling there for sure. Really good value pick for an intriguing player at a position where the Bills definitely had room for a young guy looking not just at 2025 but beyond. 

     

    Before I move off the Bills picks, another point of interest about their MO through two days of this draft - they have tended to go for guys who have not been big transfer / portal guys. Jackson did play a year at LSU before he transferred to Arkansas but he didn't really get on the field at LSU so that was more of an old fashioned transfer where it was just a guy wanting a chance to play. Both Hairston and Sanders are the increasingly rare examples of one school guys. Beane talked about the difficulties of evaluating multiple school guys in his pre-draft presser and I find it interesting that they have stayed away from them by and large so far. That might be coincidence. But we know this regime has method in most things it does and it believes in certain things. It is why they are not actually that difficult to mock draft for - @gonzo1105 and I had Hairston and Jackson to the Bills in our collab pod - because they tend to stick pretty closely to a pattern. Maybe not going for a ton of portal guys is something to add to the Bills ideal prospect profile. 

     

    What about the other 31...

    I'm not going to be popular here but two of the day 2 hauls I quite liked came from two of the Bills most heated rivals - the Kansas City Chiefs and the New England Patriots. I thought the Chiefs had a good day two with: Omarr Norman-Lott, a nice interior pass rushing 3Tech that will help them manage the load on Chris Jones as he is about to turn 31; Ashton Gillotte a productive, if slightly unusual, edge rusher who looks like a 3Tech but plays outside and will fit nicely in their rotation; and Nohl Williams a long corner who is tailor made for their scheme (reminds me a lot of Charvarious Ward) and I think will be a starter in their nickel package that allows them to get Trent McDuffie back inside in those situations which is where he elevates to true elite status. This is their model now for the most part - round 1 for protection or weapons for Mahomes, rounds two and three for pieces for Spags. The Patriots took: TreVeyon Henderson at the top of the second round who gives them a home run threat in the backfield next to Drake Maye to help take some pressure off; Kyle Williams at the top of the third who I did think was taken a little early for my tastes but finally adds some dynamism and speed at receiver which has felt like a need in New England for about 15 seasons; and Jared Wilson, the center out of Georgia at the end of round 3 who is the best pure center in this draft, highly athletic and is probably an upgrade on what they got the last couple of years from the now retired David Andrews whose body was failing him. They attacked their defense in free agency and are using the draft to put some pieces around their young Quarterback. Not sure it vaults them into playoff contention in 2025, but they will be improved and if these guys hit then by 2026 the Patriots could be properly competitive again. 

     

    As for who didn't I like.... I honestly think the Lions have had a really poor draft. I thought Tyleik Williams as a two down only defensive tackle at #28 was a bit of a reach and then trading in the late second to secure guard Tate Ratledge was not a move I was a fan of. I had an early 4th round grade on him and I just think this was way too soon for him even if he does fill a need given Kevin Zeitler's departure in free agency. They then made an even bigger trade up in round three giving up two future 3rds to jump to the top of the round for Isaac TeSlaa a big slot from Arkansas. He tested very well and has a high RAS score but when I watched the tape I was pretty unimpressed. I didn't think he was gradable for my board and had an indicative 7th round / priority free agent rating. The Lions have proven people wrong before - I was one of the folks who thought Jahmyr Gibbs was taken too early a couple of years back and that worked out. But I just think this is three pretty low ceiling prospects. Time will tell. I also didn't love what the Saints did. I get it they might not like the Quarterback who shall not be named who remains on the board and I haven't evaluated Tyler Shough in order to have a really clear view on him. But he turns 26 at the start of his rookie season, lost his job at Oregon, couldn't stay healthy at Texas Tech and only really jumped into early round draft contention in his SEVENTH season of college football this past year at Louisville. I know Bo Nix was dinged for staying in college for ages and losing his job at Auburn but Shough is a year older than Nix and played at an additional school. He is a handsome chap, I'll give him that, but otherwise not sure I'd be excited as a Saints fan. And after Shough, two guys with fourth round grades on my board in Vernon Broughton the defensive tackle from Texas and Jonas Sanker the safety from Virginia. I don't dislike either player but felt it was early for both of them and there were better players left on the board. 

     

    What's left?

    I had watched enough tape to grade and put on my board 142 players in this class. As we enter day three 91 of them have been selected and 51 of them remain. Beyond the obvious - Isaiah Bond (who given the criminal issue may be lucky to get drafted at all) and the Quarterback that shall not be named - probably the most surprising name remaining to me is Cam Williams the Texas Longhorns right tackle. Both @gonzo1105 and I liked him, he was the 50th ranked player on my big board and while I think he is probably right tackle only I am a little shocked he is still there. 

     

    Anyway, my best 15 currently remaining are listed below:

     

    1. Isaiah Bond^, WR, Texas

    2. Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado

    3. Cam Williams, OT, Texas

    4. Bradyn Swinson, DE, LSU

    5. Marcus Mbow, IOL, Purdue

    6. Elic Ayomanor, WR, Stanford

    7. Jalen Royals, WR, Utah State

    8. Jack Sawyer, DE, Ohio State

    9. Cam Skattebo, RB, Arizona 

    10. Zy Alexander, CB, LSU

    11. CJ West, DT, Indiana

    12. Josh Farmer, DT, Florida State

    13. DJ Giddens, RB, Kansas State

    14. Kyle Kennard, DE, South Carolina

    15. Dylan Sampson, RB, Tennessee

     

    The Bills currently sit at #132. Looking at my board I think runs on running back and, particularly, wide receiver will start early today. I'd like the Bills to get aggressive to try and hit their need for a true outside, vertical receiver. The three guys I have my eye on are:

    Jalen Royals, Utah State - 7th BPA by my board

    Tory Horton, Colorado State - 17th BPA by my board

    Dont'e Thonrton Jnr, Tennessee - 24th BPA by my board

     

    Any of those would bring an element that we still don't currently possess to our offense (yes Palmer is faster than his combine time and can run vertical routes outside, but he isn't a pure vertical threat guy he is more of a route runner). I'd love us to package #132 and one or two of our three 5th rounders to move up for one of those three guys.

     

    However, if they stay where they are then thinking about needs, value and guys they have met with some of the names to watch are:

    Jaydon Blue, RB, Texas

    Teddye Buchanan, LB, Cal

    Chris 'Pooh' Paul, LB, Ole Miss

    Dorian Strong, CB, Virginia Tech

    Deone Walker, DT, Kentucky

    Billy Bowman, S, Oklahoma

     

     

    One day remaining... and it's time for picks by people dressed up as furry animals, hanging from zipwires and located in countries all around the world. Savour every last one. Once it's over we have to wait a year to do it all again! 


    Jackson did do his agility testing at his pro day. He had a pretty good 7.15 three cone which I think you can see decent bend for his size around the edge. His shuttle was not very good though and is definitely mostly a vertical athlete.

     

    Im very hopeful that we move up early in round 4 for a WR. In addition to the three you mentioned, I also like Ayomanor a lot. If we miss out on those 4, I’d be very disappointed and turn my attention to Elijhah Badger. Once we get that WR, then everything else is just gravy in my book.

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  2. Man I’m excited for this pick

     

    Beane went to the South Carolina pro day and then they hosted Sanders for a 30 visit. They have been interested for a long time. 


    Not only is he a good pass rusher, but compared to other upper tier pass rushers in this draft, his run defense is good enough to be a three down player. Alfred Collins I liked for his athleticism and run stopping, but his pass rush is limited and there were rumors teams were concerned with this injuries. He is also going to be 24 in October.

     

    Darius Alexander was another option with many fans and is a closer comp to Sanders. But Alexander did not become a starter at Toledo until 2023 and will be 25 this year.

     

    Besides them you have Omar Norman Lott who is a very good pass rusher, but even Tennessee tried to keep him off the field on run downs. Shemar Turner is a converted DE and is much smaller than Sanders.

     

    In addition, athletically he ran a sub 5.0 40 with a sub 1.7 10 yard split at over 295 pounds. That is the athletic profile you want from a DT as it is similar to many of the best DTs of the last 10 years.

     

    You draft pass rush early in the draft, especially if they can somewhat stop the run. Sanders gives us that. If we want a 320 plus run stopper - Cam Horsely, Cam Jackson, Nazir Stackhouse, Eric Gregory - are all still available and probably will be until round 5 or 6.

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  3. Jackson is a guy I would have accepted as our first rounder with all the smoke between him and the Bills pre-draft

     

    Would have been very happy with him in the second. That we got him in the third is like we didn’t trade down at all, and with how quickly the Bills made the pick I think they agreed

     

    I really like LJ. Dude is dedicated. Transformed his body. Really smart with how he handles every snap run or pass. Has one of the best surf techniques in the draft when defending the RPO. He is not an explosive rusher but he has good bend for his size, and he compresses the pocket which is what you want with all these running QBs. That he is landing with Rousseau and Bosa, some of the best run defenders and power rushers in the NFL, will help him grow even further. I have really high expectations for LJ. 

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  4. 8 minutes ago, Luka said:

    I need my Gator pick this year and who better than Elijhah Badger? The Gators offense was the Badger show at times through out the season last year and really helped with the development of the freshman QB DJ Lagway. 4.4 speed, excellent hands and much like Shakir for Buffalo, always seemed to come up with the big 3rd down catch when we needed it. From scouting reports I've seen he has more of discipline and work ethic concerns than ability or talent concerns so I think that is a perfect 4th or 5th round kind of guy. The Gators staff is not the hallmark of coaching staffs that's for sure, so a change of scenery could certainly benefit him. 


    Badger was tied for WR12 for me just above Dont’e Thornton. Love how he plays. Was a YAC merchant at ASU then totally transformed into a deep threat at Florida. He can win at all three levels. He and Horton would also take care of the KR and PR role so we can cut Coddrington. And love your description of Florida, spot on.

  5. On 4/12/2025 at 9:08 PM, LEBills said:

    My personal 2025 WR rankings:

     

    #2 Elic Ayomanor WR Stanford (RD 2)

    - Grew up in Canada until HS

    - Put up nearly 300 yards against Colorado, half of which came against (a hobbled) Travis Hunter

     

    What does he do on film?

     

    Natural if not unrefined route runner:

    - 4:52 awesome pacing on route and selling the go before breaking it off for the back shoulder catch, setting Stanford up for the win.

     

    - 5:20 really great snapping off the route to the corner of the EZ

     

    - 7:13 fights through 3 or 4 defenders in his route and gets to the front pylon

     

    - 10:53 pretty impressive wiggle for a player of his size

     

     

    Are his hands improving?

    - 13:18 brushes off the attempted hold by the DB and excellent deep tracking. 

     

    - 13:41 tracking down the errant pass like an outfielder. Critical for his play style and plays he was missing earlier in the year

     

    - 15:00 threw Quincy Riley (a good CB) to the side and finished with a nice deep ball track

     

    Weaknesses:

    - For such a strong player, he allows balls to get ripped out or will just drop them after a bit of contact

    - Has some quicks to his game, but not overly dangerous after the catch

     

    Conclusion:

    I was skeptical of Ayomanor going into evaluation for his apparent lack of separation and a few too many drops. As the season went on, I think he started playing better despite his QB situation. The drops lessened (though we’re still there at times), and he seemed to have more wiggle and juice off the line.

     

    Ayomanor is a player who I would be nervous drafting but also nervous to pass on. He looks like Mike Evans on the field but his hands are holding him back. I think some of his releases off the line are some of the more impressive of this class, but then he has such bad hand placement to catch the ball. If a team feels confident they can fix his catching technique he is going to be a monster.

     

    On 4/5/2025 at 9:48 PM, LEBills said:

    My personal 2025 WR rankings:

     

    #9 Jalen Royals WR Utah State (RD 2-3)

    - Multi sport athlete in HS

    - 21 TDs in 1.5 seasons at Utah State

    - Often left the defender worse for the wear after they tried tackling him

     

    What does he do on film?

     

    You have to be both physical and technically sound if you want to stand a chance vs Royals:

    - 2:14 able to get quick speed out of a bunch formation so when defenders tries to get physical with Royals, the defender just slips off of him

    - 3:09 physicality without good technique will get whooped by Royals because he is very strong. bad throw

    - 3:38 just bad defense by Boise giving up the inside release with the Safety so far back. I think the missed tackles are more on the CB and Safety than anything incredible Royals did, but the speed when he has a step on a defense is important to see

    - 4:23 Royals avoids the press and swipes the hand away to get even with the CB. CB trails the rest of the way and nice outside break to give his QB a safe completion.

     

    Weaknesses:

    - Very good short and deep route player but lacks route running polish for intermediate routes

    - Dealt with injuries the later portion of the year

     

    Conclusion:

    At his best when USU put him to the wide hash and he had much more space to work with on slants, screens and gos. Feisty and slippery after the catch with over 25% avoided tackle rate. Excellent contested catch receiver despite modest height. Royals still has room to grow as a receiver - particularly on his intermediate routes - but is set up well to be a second option in a YAC heavy offense with his ability to occasionally stretch the field vertically.

     

    On 4/3/2025 at 12:17 AM, LEBills said:

    My personal 2025 WR rankings:

     

    #12B Elijah Badger WR Florida (RD 5-6)

    - Transfer from ASU

    - returned kicks for ASU and averaged 28.9 yards per return

    - Second is SEC for YPC this year

     

    What does he do on film?

     

    - 5:22 jet sweep, multiple missed tackles forced

    - 6:18 awareness against the zone defense to keep moving to the open zone

    - 7:20 finished with the easy touchdown vs cover 0

    - 12:10 keeps working to QB throwing lane as pocket collapses, rewarded with big catch and run

    - 29:30 quick break behind the zone defender, crosses to the other side of the field for crucial first down catch

     

     

    - :26 looks familiar right? Jet sweep forcing several missed tackles

    - 1:10 beats the CB good position with awesome hands catch for the first down

    - 1:21 finds the hole in coverage down field for 4th down conversion. Notice his awareness of the defenders around him to pick up extra yardage when surrounded by USC defenders

    - 3:29 first off Skattebo is so fun. Badger is so elusive for his size.

     

    Weaknesses:

    - Production throughout his career was mid

    - Will be 24 this summer

     

    Conclusion:

    A former 4-star recruit, he caught passes from Jaden Daniels in 2022 which may have been his best year. What I like about Badger is he can play anyway you need him. Last year he had a 7.3 aDOT, this year his aDOT was 17.3. If you need him to make a play on a jet sweep he can do that, if you need him to make a short catch and make a couple defenders miss he can do that, and if you need him to just win downfield he can do that too. This year when he was used on many more deep routes he had 0 drops, a near 70% contested catch success rate, and the fifth best YPRR in the class. If there is to be a Khalil Shakir day 3 surprise breakout WR, I would put my chips on Badger pre-draft

     

    On 4/2/2025 at 2:07 AM, LEBills said:

    My Personal 2025 WR Rankings:

     

    #13 Dont’e Thornton WR Tennessee (RD 2-3)

    - Oregon transfer

    - Helped take care of 4 younger siblings while his father was in prison

    - 2 time SEC academic honor roll

     

    What does he do on film?

     

    You have to have Safety help over the top

    - 1:43 RPO draws safety toward the LOS and Thornton fills the vacated space for another easy touchdown

    - 6:34 copy and paste

    - 6:48 ditto

     

    Deep ball tracking

    - 1:33 Thornton is excellent at tracking the ball in the air

    - 3:46 late hands and cradles the ball as he runs full speed while being dragged down from behind

     

    Weaknesses:

    - Is not going to shake a tackler but will politely fall forward

    - College offense schemed open looks rather than Thornton creating separation via route running

     

    Conclusion:

    Being 6’5’’ and running a 4.3 is a superpower. One that forces teams to account for you each snap you are on the field. He also is a pretty good run blocker which will be important for him to stay on the field in 2 WR sets. But Thornton comes with many questions that can’t be answered by his measurements. Despite his size, he was never used much as an end zone target and his contested catch rate varied wildly from year to year. He also was only used on a few routes, and not having a more varied route tree will make covering him easier than it should be in the pros. Thornton is a package player with a very important role in an Offense (Tennessee used him as such as he wound up with the 4th most WR snaps on the team). I think a Christian Watson role may be where he carves out his niche.

    On 4/8/2025 at 5:23 PM, LEBills said:

    My personal 2025 WR rankings:

     

    #6 Tory Horton WR Colorado State (RD 4-6)

    - Should have declared last year

    - Worked out in the snow at his pro day

     

    What does he do on film?

     

    - :14 beats Will Johnson 1v1 for the long touchdown

    - 2:32 a lot of fast players struggle against zone coverage. Sits in the zone, gets the ball and then so incredibly quick going from standing still to making a big run after catch

    - 4:11 double covered and still wins the jump ball and scores

    - 4:56 sick double move and then shows off the best hands in the draft

    - 6:15 it’s not an amazing play, but I like players that their coaches trust to handle a trick play

     

     

    - 1:34 best hands in the draft

    - 2:47 incredible at getting hands up last moment for the catch and touchdown

    - 7:41 best hands in the draftttt

    - 8:20 When a big catch was needed he delivered, then communicates with his teammates to get ready to spike the ball

    - 9:14 best hands in the draftttttttt

     

    Weaknesses:

    - Likely played much lighter than he weighed at combine

    - Knee injury ended his season

    - Wins with speed and lacks physicality after the catch

     

    Conclusion:

    If you can’t tell, I’m a big fan. A player that should have declared last year after a showcase game vs Colorado, he came back because he was a leader at CSU. Well rounded receiver metrically with success out wide and in the slot as well as vs both man and zone. 

     

    Added bonus of being a good punt returner will allow him to contribute right away to any team. Starting as a reserve and slot player be a nice way to transition to the physicality of the game, but I think he can step in as a starter immediately assuming he is 100% healthy.


    5 of my top 12 receivers remain

     

    Tory Horton despite being lower than Ayomanor in the ranks, is the top Bills fit left imo.

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  6. 19 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

    Based on your rankings I assume you'd be fine with any of Horton, Ayomanor, Thorton or Royals. Hopefully Bills like some of them too and trade up.


    Yea I have Horton way ahead as a fit for the the Bills. Then it it would be Ayomanor, Royals and Thornton. I’d be pumped with any of them.

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  7. On 4/18/2025 at 8:19 AM, LEBills said:

    I went through all DTs selected to the All-pro team and/or Pro Bowl from 2013-2025 to see if I could find any similarities in their background pre-draft.

     

    In that timeframe 37 different players were selected. Of that group 25 (67%) of the individuals selected met one of the two following criteria. However, since many of the players were nominated multiple times, those who hit this criteria made up over 82% of the total selections.

     

    Production: At least 5 sacks recorded in a single college season by their true Junior year AND a RAS greater than 7

     

    Speed: A Sub 5.0 40 and/or a sub 1.7 10 yard split while weighing more than 295 pounds

     

     

    So who meets these criteria in this draft class?

     

    Production:

    Josh Farmer, Florida State

    CJ West, Indiana

    Walter Nolen, Ole Miss*

    Tyleik Williams, Ohio State*

     

    Speed:

    Derrick Harmon, Oregon

    Darius Alexander, Toldeo

    TJ Sanders, South Carolina

    CJ West, Indiana
     

    Commentary:

    The most important factor in success is obviously draft capital. So in this class and past draft classes, I focused on those drafted by the end of day 2.
     

    First, what a DT class this is! The previous record for DTs who met one of these criteria was 5 players each in 2019 and 2018 (8 of those 10 are making over 10 million per year on their current contracts). 
     

    Now there are obviously players who succeed that didn’t meet those criteria so scouting is still needed. But for your best shot at finding a star, this is the group to focus on in my opinion.

     

    * = no RAS

    ^ = small school prospect


    Way to go Beane, Sanders is going to be a good one.

  8. 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

    I'm trying to think of a fall by a player this far.  I can't come up with one.


    The closest I can think of is Malik Willis who some people mocked second overall to Detroit only for him to go round 3. But this is much more significant

  9. 13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

    I may be a little biased since I've actually watched all 3 players in college and all 3 made a positive impression on me.  That said they all fit our needs, are guys the Bills have been monitoring all offseason and our guys you can project as future starters.  

     

    Hairston brings speed that our secondary is sorely lacking and I can see him winning a starting job in camp.  He is also a ball hawk.  Sanders has the ability to backup both Jones and Oliver and brings real pass rushing ability from the middle.  It will be interesting to watch how they deploy Carter and Sanders.  We can't forget that Carter is 6-3 305 and can play the one as well.  Lastly Landon Jackson is just a sound football player.  I think he is a better version of AJE.  


    Yea this is the best first two days of the draft I can remember for Beane since 2018. 
     

    All are really good players. I honestly think all three have high end upside. And star power is what we needed

     

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  10. 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said:

    I'd love our WR room to be better too. On the other hand, I am sure Stroud wishes he had OL like Josh has.


    it’s true, I’m thankful they got that fixed. But when Keon and Kincaid are your only premium investments in pass catchers since Diggs in 2020, and both have struggled, it’s still disappointing.

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