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4 hours ago, Nanker said:
Says here that TT's cap hit would be $3.1mm if he's a post June 1st cut.
If you wait until June 1st you have to pay him the 6 mil bonus second day of the league year
1 hour ago, John from Hemet said:I would still like to know why Groy did not get more burn this year at the OG spots
Because he is a terrible guard and good center. Did you see any of the preseason the last two years with him at guard?
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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Beane said I have seen "all the ones that matter" then said all the first rounders. I thought that was the most defining comment and should tell you exactly what we are going to do in Round 1 of the draft.
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13 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:
i'm ready to move on from taylor and have been since last year before the draft... I think everyone basically is now.
with that being said. this thread is literally filled with the bottom of the bin when it comes to posters on this board. an all star cast of "I told you so" posters or just crappy posters in general.
complete sludge in here.
Everyone is ready to move on from their QB if you have something better. But we don't
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45 minutes ago, Gugny said:
It was Dennison's play-calling.
It was Roman's system.
He didn't have any receivers.
His o-line didn't block for him.
He was playing hurt.
He's held to a higher standard because he's black.
Did I miss any?
Yes passing yards and rushing yards are not mutually exclusive. Same with passing TDs and Rushing TDs.
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1 hour ago, Commonsense said:
Patriots know how to weasel out of every situation. Expect Gronk to find White during the pregame and have a few words in an attempt to eliminate any cheap shots. I'd bet BB has gone over it with the barbarian already.
Before the game is the best way to get the full media coverage as well so the Pats can get credit for doing the right thing - which is garbage.
White should tell him he can talk to him after the game, not before for media purposes.
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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Defensively, Yes.
Offensively, hard to argue. We do not have a passing QB for the talent they brought in at WR. The WR corps have been practically useless with TT under center.
This regime is supposed to be process oriented. Changing variables (WRs) in your process disrupts the expected results. If they didn't know the instability on offense they would create then the should stop using the word process.
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1 hour ago, teef said:
you're not. you're giving them credit for what they've done with the lack of talent on the roster. i know they caused it, but again, this team is going to look very different next year.
i certainly wouldn't have thought this team could win 8/9 games this year.
This is the same as giving credit for McD having the guts to start Peterman but not making him responsible for the result. Only delusional Bills fans can take self inflicted problems and give credit for overcoming them. All they needed to do was play defense with the current roster and this team was capable of winning 10 games. Expectations deteriorated because of the moves they made. How do you give credit for that?
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Seriously what about controlling the clock? Belicheat's game plan doing the same to the '90 Bills is in the hall of fame.
Why not snap the ball at the last possible second according to the play clock to give them less time to operate? If we try to trade rhythm up tempo possessions with them we are going to get murdered, we always do. Fewer possessions gives them less times to figure out our D and less time to score. Keeping the score low worked for the 90's Giants so why would we not take that chance?
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You might as well push for the top ranked defense in yards instead of points while you are at it.
Points is all that matters.
The assumption that you are making is that more passing yards will lead to more points and more winning. Why? Show me 100% correlation and why 300 yds is the number.
8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:Fair point Kirby. But id counter with what could the possibility of a 250 yard game do for this team?
teams are stacking the box and daring us to throw.
Isn't it the same as playing nickel and dime all game against good throwing QBs? Teams are going to do whatever they can to take away what you do best.
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It's hubris or just plain inexperience for them to think that they can hand pick every single guy on the roster and not have to coach players that were here, even if they weren't "you're guys". On average coaches get 3 to 3.5 years and GMs get 4 to prove they deserve the job, no matter what contract they sign. You can't completely tear down a roster and build it from scratch and expect the talent to mature and succeed in that time frame.
These guys should know that no matter how green they are. Outside of safety and one corner spot I don't see any real committed building blocks on this roster and agree almost every position is in need of an overhaul this offseason. Hopefully things become clearer down the stretch.
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The comparison made was to SF when the QB was replaced. Your facts are all screwed up.
Throughout the early season, Kaepernick was used as a wildcat quarterback. In Week 10 against the St. Louis Rams, Kaepernick replaced starter Alex Smith, who had suffered a concussion in the first half.So your example is what? -
HIT HIM! let's see how long it takes his 40 yr old body to recover from 1 of 11 knocking the snot out of him every play
Unless they test for HGH and other illegal supplements I am not sure hitting him will work outside of the current game. I remember last year or the year before when the Texans destroyed Brady all game and he was back practicing two days later at 38/39 years old. My eye brows raised right there especially with his shady trainer who once offered a "greens" pill that supposedly could cure cancer.
This guy is going to play as long as legal/illegal supplements and the league allow him to. Just my opinion but he and his trainer have provided the foundation for doubt.
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He makes 12 million so "it makes sense to move on from him" Why? Are we supposed to get top notch play for under market value because we are cheapskates from Buffalo? How has that worked out over the last 60 years?
He is a solid tackle whose contract actually declines year over year going forward. Why thin out a position of strength by trading your best player at the position. You trade your worst.
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I think Sal reported Nov 1st or the first week of Nov some time based on the number of weeks after the injury settlement. I think it has to be 8 weeks after the settlement.
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I thought Whaley was one of our better GMs. He found players on the street and was creative with trades. His downfall was the coaching changes. If the rookie owners stayed out of it he might have had a chance. He was also drafting for a different scheme every two years and that is impossible.
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Also that play with Taiwan Jones that went for a huge first down was awesome.
That was the gutsiest call of the game IMO and a huge play.
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I don't think SDS was upset at all. In fact, as I recall, he had a thread on the main board asking for suggestions from us on multiple occasions. But it's gotten to the point where every little whim can't be addressed (such as telling the owner not to post links to paid/subscription articles, or God forbid, that the articles should be mixed up better on the front page). In addition, there is a thread above (TBD Re-design) which is pinned where you guys can gripe about how the owner has set the site up the way he wants. So thankfully, you don't run TBD.
I was not calling anyone specific out, just general comments to the poster about keeping quiet and not clicking the locked links. Why are you jumping to the conclusion I am calling SDS out? I was not aware of the location for site feedback however it is also important to note I am also not the one who posted the topic.
If there is a site feedback location it sounds as if TwoBillsDrive and I are on the same page. Where you are is anyone's guess.
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If I ran TwoBillsDrive I would not be upset to hear from customers on what they would like to see in the site. If you are yelling at this poster to just not click the Buffalo News links and go somewhere else, then you clearly don't understand the benefits of customer feedback.
Like many of you I really like the forums and that is why I come to TwoBillsDrive. I don't click the articles at all. Not because I don't want to pay but because I believe the Buffalo News writers aren't worth paying for at any price. I would not click them if they were free. Reading the Buffalo News you learn very little about the Bills IMO. There are other writers that teach you about the intricacies of the Bills offense/defense and organization as a whole that i would much rather see linked on this site. We are an educated fan base, the materials posted on a great site like TwoBillsDrive should reflect that IMO.
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Again, I didn't spend time watching him on every play but Joe B did. Miller is the worst player on the team so far according to him. Ducasse graded a C+ for the Bengals game.
http://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-buffalo-bills-all-22-review-vs-cincinnati-bengals-10_12_17-
1) DE Jerry Hughes - 3.67 (1)
2) S Micah Hyde - 3.48 (3)
3) DT Kyle Williams - 3.29 (2)
4) DE Shaq Lawson - 3.25 (4)
5) CB TreDavious White - 3.22 (5)
6) S Jordan Poyer - 3.17 (6)
7) DE Eddie Yarbrough - 3.07 (7)
8) CB E.J. Gaines - 3.06 (9)
9) SLB Lorenzo Alexander - 3.06 (8)
10) RB LeSean McCoy - 3.04 (10)
11) WR Jordan Matthews - 3.03 (11)
12) TE Charles Clay - 2.98 (13)
13) LG Richie Incognito - 2.85 (12)
14) WR Andre Holmes - 2.80 (16)
15) FB Patrick DiMarco - 2.79 (15)
16) QB Tyrod Taylor - 2.70 (14)
17) RB Mike Tolbert - 2.70 (18)
18) TE Nick OLeary - 2.68 (19)
19) C Eric Wood - 2.67 (24)
20) DE Ryan Davis - 2.67 (21)
21) WLB Ramon Humber - 2.66 (22)
22) MLB Preston Brown - 2.60 (20)
23) DT Marcell Dareus - 2.59 (25)
24) DT Cedric Thornton - 2.57 (26)
25) DT Adolphus Washington - 2.56 (23)
26) LT Dion Dawkins - 2.55 (17)
27) WR Zay Jones - 2.49 (27)
28) NCB Leonard Johnson - 2.30 (28)
29) CB Shareece Wright - 2.22 (NR)
30) RT Jordan Mills - 1.93 (30)
31) RG John Miller - 1.87 (31)
How can we possibly accept these grades when he doesn't know what the players responsibility is on each play? What are his qualifications? Watching the Bills? Don't we have that covered? I don't want to be a hypocrite, I listen to Joe B for updates but I would not make personnel moves based on his grades or PFFs.
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I think it is a tear down, not a tank. Baby Beane wants out from under Gettelman's shadow so he is getting rid of Whaley's players so in a few years he can say he did it all himself. If it comes to it and he finds a way to get rid of any of Tyrod, Dareus or Glenn our cap is going to be in disarray. This board will torch him for all the dead cap money and situation.
Also - draft capital doesn't just have to be used on draft picks.
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I think it's equally about the QB trusting his receivers to make catches, particularly for someone like Taylor who is very risk averse when throwing the ball.
The All-22 will be very interesting, because I have a feeling that these scrubs will be open on a number of occasions, and Taylor simply didn't trust them to make the play and catch the ball.
What makes them open on All 22? because they run away from the defender, or cut their route three yards short of the first down, go outside when the read is inside? Armchair All 22 is ridiculous
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No, I don't, but I also don't want to watch an offense consisting of Zay Jones, Kaelin Clay, Andre Holmes, Brandon Tate, Nick O'Leary and Logan Thomas for the next 3-5 weeks if there are better options out there. Signing a free agent at this point of the season costs nothing but a negligible amount of cap space.
Very well put
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I believe if we trade him they pay the base salary - we pay the amortized bonuses up front as a cap charge for 2017..? I guess i could be wrong?
For dareus that would be 20.6 million in bonuses plus whatever salary we already paid? (roster bonuses and base salary for this aren't added - http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/marcell-dareus-7718/)- His cap hit currently stands at 16.4 million.
For Glenn that would be 14.8 million in bonuses plus whatever salary is already paid for 2017. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cordy-glenn-9851/- his cap hit stands at 14.2 milion.
I would consider it unlikely - but certainly possible.
Thank you for pointing this out. You are exactly right. All bonus money hits the cap immediately if moved. Post June 1st is a cut not trade scenario and has nothing to do with this post.
I wish your post was second on this topic to squash this, A better topic would be just what Bean is doing to the cap. If people were to investigate next year's cap is not nearly as rosey as it was previously stated.
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People are forgetting how bad Groy was last preseason at Guard. He played very well at Center for Wood but as a guard he was terrible.
If everyone is this mad at Beane for the WR debacle, wait until we start to analyze what he is doing to our cap with trades and cuts. So much dead cap will be on the books the next two years.
Per Buffalo Fanatics, Bills actively looking to trade Shaq Lawson
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Why open the hole and use a draft pick to fill it the exact same way?