The Frankish Reich
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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
The plot thickens! But, Trump is not wrong. Every little nuance is discussed and agreed to well before the three debates. The debate commission cannot just go off willy-nilly and change what it likes without agreement from both sides.
Good Lord. Mr. Trump, even your most ardent supporter doesn't say you "won" anything.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/940854/even-rush-limbaugh-admits-trumps-debate-strategy-didnt-work
I thought letting Joe loose for 2 minutes without interruption would reveal his advanced senility. So why you gotta keep interrupting him?
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25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
One of the architects of the coup piles on you mean. Who needs details when you got... (checks notes) ... McMaster to tell you what to think. Keep on ignoring the evidence and keep on listening to what others tell you to think about it instead.
It's done a great job so far of making sure you're uninformed.
The coup. Riiiiight ....
I finally figured out the closest historical analogue to this new little subculture - Lyndon LaRouche.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche
An amusing little footnote to American politics in the 1980s - 2000s.
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26 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:
This is not a plug for Biden (pun intended) but I don't see his election as bad for markets. Maybe initially through inauguration but once he (Kamala) is in the seat the outrageous deficit spending and low interest rates will endure. Taxes won't get raised significantly unless they flip the Senate. Trump on the other hand if he's re-elected has to IMO begin to address spending (deficits) if he is to leave his party and the country in good shape.
Well, the S&P 500 is up about half a percent today ... AFTER the first reliable post-debate poll was released showing Biden with his biggest lead yet.
So much for that "markets think Trump won" theory ...
And GOOGL up 1.5%, on the increased likelihood that the Trump Administration will be gone, and with it the threat of an antitrust suit?
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And yet another one of "my generals" piles on:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/former-national-security-adviser-trump-putin-424458
Former national security adviser H.R. McMaster said Thursday that President Donald Trump is “aiding and abetting” Russian President Vladimir Putin’s efforts to sow doubt about the American electoral system.
The stern warning from McMaster, who Trump handpicked to lead the White House National Security Council in 2017, came in an interview on MSNBC, after he was asked whether he agreed that the president posed the greatest threat to U.S. election integrity.
“I agree that he is aiding and abetting Putin’s efforts by not being direct about this, right? By not just calling out Putin for what he’s doing,” McMaster said.
“You know, Putin gets away with, I mean, literally murder or attempted murder … because people don’t call him out on it,” he added. “And so they are able to continue with this kind of fire hose of falsehood, to sow these conspiracy theories. And we just can’t be our own worst enemies.”
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24 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Hey, I'm showing MY work:
Joe Biden has opened up a 13-point lead over President Trump in the wake of the first presidential debate, according to a new CNBC/Change Research survey released on Thursday.
The poll shows Biden garnering 54 percent of the vote to Trump’s 41 percent, with 53 percent of likely voters surveyed saying that the Democratic nominee performed better than Trump in the debate on Tuesday night, while only 29 percent said the president had the better performance.
That debate quickly devolved into a raucous and chaotic event defined by frequent interruptions and hectoring by Trump, who has since sought to declare victory in the showdown.
But the CNBC/Change Research poll found that 45 percent of likely voters believe that Trump underperformed expectations at the debate, while only 11 percent said that Biden performed worse than expected.
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2 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Old dog, no new tricks...........
"Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying."
I'm rereading my live-blogging of the October 11, 2012 debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan. It's making me view Trump's debate behavior in a different way. I hated the way Biden treated the very polite, earnest Midwesterner Ryan. Excerpts (with timestamps omitted):Biden is being rude, laughing and mouthing words.... Biden mutters an interruption. When Biden is given a turn, he calls what Ryan said "malarky."...
Ryan is speaking earnestly... and Biden is chuckling toothily, his body shaking like Santa Claus.... When Ryan speaks, Biden is laughing clownishly again. It looks just awful... Biden is acting as though he cannot physically tolerate Ryan having a turn to speak!... Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying.... While Ryan is talking... Biden sighs long and loud... Biden interrupts. Ryan says: "Mr. Vice President, I know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but I think everyone will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other."
I love the politeness of "if we don't keep" — we — when Biden has been an interruption machine and Ryan has barely interrupted and only occasionally has talked over to keep from losing his turn.
The moderator, Martha Raddatz has done nothing at all to control Biden.... The stress level is rising. Biden is so angry. Why is he yelling? Ryan needs nerves of steel not to lose his cool. I'm impressed that Ryan, when he gets his turn, is able to speak in an even, natural voice. It's hard to concentrate on the policy itself, because the emotional static is so strong... That debate was so annoying! Some of the CNN commentators are talking about how Biden did what he came to do, to fire up the Democrats. "This was not for the independents," says Van Jones. Okay, well, but independents were watching, and Biden was horribly rude. He created this disturbing atmosphere of anxiety.
Debating Trump, Biden got a big serving of what he dished out 8 years ago. Ryan did a fantastic job of maintaining his cool, staying substantive, and going high when Biden went low. And then he lost the election. I'm sure Biden would have been willing to do what he did in 2012 and be completely rude and irritating as hell once again, but he's 8 years older, and, more importantly, Donald Trump is not Paul Ryan. Trump is Trump, and Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.
LOL..........he has repeatedly said "IT"
You just wanted to spread the spin...........we expect it.
You're right about Biden. He did do that to Paul Ryan, who I liked but who was too meek.
But that doesn't change the fact that Trump came off as the Interrupter in Chief by the clear majority of viewers. That's the fact. And it hurt him.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
And on the third day he relented.
Blessed are those who didn't need three days to say what any decent human being would say.
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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
The next debate moderator...
https://smpa.gwu.edu/steve-scully
A former Biden intern. I'm sure that's not intentional.
I'm changing my tack.
Yeah, damn right, we're the deep state and we will crush you like the cockroaches you are!
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13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Damn fool, sitting there in his basement, watching his polling numbers go up as his opponent continues his self-immolation. When will he learn!
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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:
I too dropped Economics. It was too hard. I was a humanities major. I am not conversant in economics. But that won't stop me from commenting on it.
FIFY too!
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3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Bolton: scum! breached a nondisclosure agreement!!
Assange: a hero!! Published stolen classified information!!!
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Just now, Alaska Darin said:
I'll let you know the second I care about your opinion on anything.
You're literally sitting over there acting like the Fed would allow the entire world to drop into economic chaos because...."TRUMP." Yet you're somehow reasonable? Sure.
That is not what I said. The Fed also bailed out the incoming Obama-Biden administration.
My point was really, really simple. Maybe you didn't take economics, but I hope you took logic:
-Trump criticizes the Deep State on a regular basis as something corrupt that must be reined in
-The Federal Reserve is the quintessential Deep State entity
-The Federal Reserve has been far more important in keeping the stock markets trading at high levels than anything the Trump Administration has done
Therefore, Trump taking credit for the markets is disingenuous at best, hypocritical at worst (in that the Deep State helped him make this argument in favor of his reelection)
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Just now, Alaska Darin said:
You gotta love the liberal mindset. "The Fed is making sure the entire economic world doesn't collapse on itself because liberal policies across the globe are killing everything..." and somehow this proves there is no Deep State.
Like...it's literally that simple.
Well, that's certainly a reasoned and unhysterical take ...
1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:"Because I say so, even though I admit I haven't read any of the evidence and instead rely on Steve Bannon to be my filter, it's the end of the story."
Things CRAZY PEOPLE say.
(and very stupid people say)
No. I read more than enough.
It isn't even "they tried to frame a guilty man." It's "some investigators were overzealous in their prosecution of some guilty men."
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1 minute ago, Alaska Darin said:
You're just pivoting because you refuse to face the hypocrisy of your own bull#### politics. It's ok, we're used to it.
Well, why not respond on the merits to my argument about the Fed?
Either: (1) you don't have one because I'm right; or (2) you don't have one because you don't understand these concepts.
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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:
It was always a coup...
Wonder if the Federal Reserve Police were involved...
There is a tiny, vanishingly small segment of the electorate that cares about re-litigating this.
Most of us have concluded that Trump was corrupt, and (to the extent we've looked into it) that some investigators were unprofessional.
End. Of. Story.
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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:
Nope. Don't think I will. I gave you weeks of civility, you wanted none of it.
Now you just get the horns. Your choice, Frank.
So, as I suspected: you literally know nothing about economics or Fed interventions in the economy. You started this thread back in 2017 -- The Deep State War Heats Up! And I pointed out that a key instrument of the so-called Deep State -- the Federal Reserve -- may be seen as propping up the current administration rather than trying to overthrow it (or whatever term you use). And your answer:
I got nuthin'
You're mean.
And AD's?
Economics is Hard. I dropped it.
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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Wrong again, because you're VERY stupid.
I responded to YOUR stupidity, and laughed at it, Frank.
Difference.
So let's stop with the name calling.
What part of my explanation for the Fed's pivotal role in propping up the stock market since February is incorrect?
Just one example.
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5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
There he goes again -- he can't have a rational, sane conversation. So he must invent a position to argue against.
That's something crazy people do.
Not sane people. And certainly not honest people.
You responded to a perfectly sane exposition of the Fed's response to the COVID-19 crisis with the very adult gif "now is the time we throw back our heads in laughter."
What was funny about what I said?
What was wrong about it?
Responding in that manner is the hallmark of an intelligent (and sane) person.
3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:"Your boy"
Can't argue honestly, so he must assign people positions for him to argue against. Trump is not AD's boy. But why let facts get in the way of a crazy rant?
Kudlow is Trump's Chief Economic Advisor!
He is literally Trump's mouthpiece on economic policy.
If Trump disagrees with him, he certainly hasn't fired him, nor has he let that be known.
If Alaska Darin disagrees with Trump's economic policy, well, here's your chance to tell me. So far all I've got is "Economics is Hard."
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2 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:
Which is different from previous politicians how? Barack Obama didn't pass a single piece of legislation to help the American economy but took enormous amounts of undue credit for the minimal turn around.
They are POLITICIANS. It is WHAT THEY DO.
You wanna talk economics, start another thread.
Is the Fed not part of the Deep State?
Your boys seem to think it is: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fed-kudlow/white-houses-kudlow-ratchets-up-criticism-of-deep-state-fed-idUSKBN1WW1YW
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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:
So the Fed shouldn't have taken these actions?
The junk bond market should have collapsed?
The Fed shouldn't have lowered interest rates to effectively zero, causing capital to to flee to the stock market?
The market should be about 30% (or more) off their peaks right now, so that Trump could run on that record?
Makes sense to me.
Grow up.
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6 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:
Well, this board contains more than enough evidence that simple concepts continue to elude you.
Let's talk about the Patriot Act, specifically when a large number of liberal politicians were complaining (correctly) that it was an assault on liberty. Why do you think they were doing that? Who was benefiting from all of the information collected?
Proving how stupid most of you are is easy BECAUSE YOU MAKE IT THAT WAY.
You mean because the Fed wouldn't be doing exactly the same thing with a different party running things?
I understand this is difficult for you. I imagine you haven't thought about monetary policy, liquidity injections, interventions in the corporate bond market, etc., etc. You may have been too busy reading some nutcase on Twitter instead of the Wall St Journal or the Financial Times.
But this point should be easy:
TRUMP IS TAKING CREDIT FOR THE STRONG STOCK MARKET. THE STOCK MARKET IS WHERE IT IS TODAY BECAUSE OF THE DEEP STATE: THE FEDERAL RESERVE.
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3 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:
Because most Americans have no idea how anything involving government works until they actually have to deal with it. But don't let your intellectual superiority get in the way of your ignorance.
If you want to know what the Deep State really is -- the one virtually no Americans understand -- start paying attention to what the Federal Reserve is doing. This is the Deep State PROPPING UP TRUMP, if not by design, then certainly by effect.
I'm not necessarily opposed to them keeping the economy afloat during what otherwise could be a depression, but every time I hear Trump crowing about how great the stock market is doing, I say yes, but that's the Fed's doing, not yours. Without these interventions we'd have seen:
1. A collapse in overnight money markets.
2. Massive defaults in corporate bonds, including the collapse of the high-yield (junk) bond market
3. A 2008 style collapse in the stock market. We saw in happen as the gravity of COVID-19 became apparent, but the markets snapped back after it became obvious that the Fed would do what it takes to prop up the economy.
Trump owes the Deep State a debt of gratitude. If he wins, it saved his hide.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ny-fed-lays-out-plan-to-pare-back-repo-liquidity-injections-11586808307
The Fed had relied heavily on repo interventions as the new coronavirus crisis worsened and markets came unglued, and it announced operations that would have lent trillions to banks, although the financial firms never took the Fed up on it.
The Fed is paring back its longer-term operations over the next month “in light of more stable repo market conditions.” Starting on May 4, it will do an overnight repo each morning, but no longer offer one in the afternoon. It will also now offer a three-month repo once every two weeks, rather than once a week. It will continue to offer a one-month repo once a week. All operations will have a $500 billion cap.
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Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said:
Maybe all the searches are from PPP? The chart really kicks things off early January 2017
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28 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:
Thanks for sharing that. A concept that is going back to the wacko fringe where it belongs.
2020 Election is officially Trump vs Biden
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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Look, I won't get into the whole mail-in ballot dispute.
But what is this silliness about "false polls"? What is false about them?
This is the same criticism we heard about Romney-Obama in 2012. A guy even decided he was going to rebalance the popular polls and "unskew" them.
Guess what happened
There are legitimate questions to be asked about any poll, but the dismissive "false polls" reeks of wishful thinking rather than clear thinking..