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If Whaley and McD are selling the Pegulas on being close I expect them both to be gone by next year.

And Houston already has the D. With elite playmakers that the Bills no longer have.

That is not his assessment of the QB's. The Bradford thing was how many angels could dance on a pin with you discussing a certain draft year.

No, I just happened to have a limited amount of time and looked at the last 6 years. Later today after work I will be glad to do a 10 year analysis. Going back further is pointless as scouting, prospects, etc change so much.

I just used the last 6 years.

Because that doesn't happen that often. I just looked at the last 6 classes and only 2013 could be described that way. 1/6= 16% Bills fans have EJ Syndrome, the fear of EJ around every corner!!

For those that love TT, every college QB is a bust.

There is game tape of Mahomes playing LSU. Your statement made it sound like every Mahomes game should be dismissed because "no defense". And it works in other ways as well. Mahomes had terrible protection compared to other prospects, etc. You have to scout the traits and figure out what you have.

It's not like Mahomes never played teams outside the Big 12. The original point was a bit of hyperbole. Now it all makes sense. When you love someone looking at other QB's must feel like cheating...

What QB prospects do you like?

Wentz played in Division II went top 2. Roethlisberger played in MAC and went 11th overall. Non QB's Khalil Mack played at UB but he looks ok.

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They don't want to lose their Tyrod. You know what, I get it. Most fans have never seen a real QB play for the Bills.

Oh Cardale has elite tools, no doubt. And I do like that he seems like a gamer. Doesn't panic like EJ. Will be interesting to see where he is in training camp this year.

Cardale is bigger. Mahomes had some scouts saying best arm at the combine since Favre. Mahomes also is way further along as a QB. He throws receivers open, uses nice touch passes. Cardale machine guns 100 mph fastballs at WR's 5 yards away.

Mechanics are important when they result in inaccurate throws. The fact that Mahomes is able to get the ball where he wants without textbook foot work is amazing. And Mahomes is also an exception. Some guys just break the rules.

Mahomes will probably go around 15-25 is my guess.

Chicago fans are claiming that John Fox wants to "win now". Ugh.

Thank you Gunner. I love reading your takes and I do listen to others who spend time on breaking down film. When I get solid tips from people who have been right before I then look at game film myself to see what is there. Many NFL paid professionals are there because the NFL is an old boys club. And Mahomes is polarizing. Even his fans like myself acknowledge that.

And this is why you cannot pay a QB that much money if they can't pass the ball. But even scarier than paying a bridge QB 40 million is the process the Bills are using. If they let their GM get overruled by the coach on building the roster we are doomed. You can't let a coach GM the team in the NFL with few exceptions. Coaches think of in the now, not the next year or year after that. We might be the Buffalo Redskins. Weak GM and meddling owner.

The amateur scouting community does a great job. Waldman has more than an hour of video on Mahomes where he goes over tape with another college QB breaking down film. I find that far more valuable than any scouts opinion. The fact is that NFL teams are routinely WRONG on QBs. If it wasn't so we would have more I trust Doug the professional threads.

I was talking to people about Rosen and one mentioned the word "fragile".

That's what it is all about. A lot of NFL GM's sit around playing not to lose. I don't want to be the guy that took the Air Raid guy in the 1st. I don't want that Tedford system QB.

That's why we get a chance at drafting him. If he was in a pro-style offense he would be gone top 3.

But, in terms of pure talent, Mahomes is a first-round pick and the top quarterback in the class. No other quarterback in the class has his combination of size, arm strength, deep ball accuracy and athleticism. And, with what he has displayed in regard to dealing with pressure and climbing the pocket, this is a player who should be vaulting up the draft boards following his declaration. Do not be surprised if his name is called much earlier than expected come the first day in Philadelphia. http://draftbreakdown.com/patrick-mahomes-ii-is-the-most-talented-quarterback-in-the-2017-draft/