Buffalo Boy

Have lived in Clt since 98. Panthers are my second team . When they lost the SB last year I was Meh so they aren't really my team. Last year they had an infuriating tendency to let teams back in on D. That was playing behind the league leading O. I'm not a fan of this pick. I don't hate him but he is boring and his defenses aren't all that. Nothing I've seen makes me think he would be anything better than average.

After listening to Whaley and watching the news coming out, I gotta say, we might not have a choice because this organization( irony) looks pretty darned disfunctional😟😳😵

I didn't say he couldn't put up descent stats. I'll eat your crow right here. McFly is right. TT can go to another team, make $20 mil. and still not get them to the playoffs but have better stats than a rebuilding team with a QB( whomever it is) learning his trade on the field. How did Kelly or P. Manning or Aikman look in their first year in the NFL. Could those teams have found a QB to start who could have put up better stats. What good would it have done for those teams the following year?

Because, ya know, Rex had to outbid so many people for " Mr. Four season bench warmer" who then amazed so many around the league with his pro passing acumen? Please, let OTHER teams over pay for him. Good luck to them or him. Unless you have a top 2-3 defense , he is not getting you there. How many seasons before the defensive " talent " we have coming back can perform at that level. TT is who he is. It is real. It isn't crying.

They padded the only stat that has mattered since about mid season: DRAFT POSITION

I'm in take him or leave him mode with Whaley currently. To beat a dead horse again, it is a factionalized organization that doesn't work together. If Whaley and the coach were truly on the same page maybe it would make a difference but we now have two coaches in a row who seem to be at odds with him. Who is at fault? If we move on from Whaley, who do we bring in? Are you ready to admit/ accept we are in full rebuild mode? It would have to be done ASAP or we will be that much farther behind in picking from the pool of coaches out there.

Do or do not, there is no try. I'm still livid they ruined a potentially Great D to bring in Rex. We were doing then and on the right path. Had Marrone brought in an NFL caliber OC we might be happy fans currently. A bunch of us correctly called out the mistake it was at the time. Moving on from TT is not quitting, it is accepting who we are; a team in rebuilding mode.

Well, at least ONE of us had to have this opinion.... Oh Sarcastic one😉 Maybe he turns into Brees but then again maybe it's time to get checked for early onset Alzheimer's. I've been watching a mediocre team for 17 years now. The only winning game seasons have resulted in the Head Coach quitting the team!? Me thinks you probably still think Losman didn't get a fair shake, or EJ, ir Trent, or......

As a head coach no. D.C. Yes!!!!! Where is Ted Cottrell?

Brady won't last forever, Trollboy

Problem is people keep buying😳

Testify my brother

Could be but shouldn't you be called More Pain coming?

Still take him in a heartbeat over, TT, Orrin, EJ,Fitz, Trent, JP........

None needed. Bills fans mix various different flavors on their own and SWEAR this will be the year😵

Houston plays in possibly the worst division and are managing 9 win seasons. They spent a bunch of $$ on Osweiler because they needed a QB. Credit to them for trying. He sucked and will next week but who Oakland puts in at QB might be Houston's saving grace but then the jig will be up.Until they figure out their QB they don't go far..... which is my point.

Would also like him or Cousins.

Yes!!!

I would be content to give a young QB the time while building . We had a good defense and screwed the pooch on that one. Our defense is now in transition between schemes. The Ravens are a good team, good coach, better QB than TT. How far does Houston get this year?

L L L L L L L W L = Recent KC playoff history Ravens are a quality run org, Flacco is better passer than TT, Harbaugh is a good coach Houston doesn't have.... Wait for it..... A Franchise QB Again , if that is enough for you , cool. I don't want to be Houston or KC with a1 and 8 playoff record.

TT.....Kinda thought I was rather obvious about my feelings🤔

What is more important, having a team that is a legitimate contender year in and year out or sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the first round. It seems that a large contingent of posters feel that the " Playoff Drought" is some kind of holy grail that must be brought to an end. Following this logic they are clinging to TT because he's better than the two guys who played today as if half the team already having their lockers cleaned out and unwilling to give any effort was the QBs fault. ( Not to make excuses for either QB) Then there are those who see TT for the 8-8 QB that he will always be and believe that he represents the path of continued mediocrity. Can we all agree that the only teams that have the chance of deep playoff runs on a continued basis are those with Franchise QBs ( Brady, Rogers, Rothlisberger... etc) ? We can argue about who is on this list but it is a relatively short one. Can we also agree that TT will never be on this list? I know many hate to hear/ think this but chances are pretty high that we don't make the playoffs again next year. A new coaching staff , even Lynn and Thurman are going to change things. This team wasn't that close this year with a lucky streak early playing some really crappy QBs/ Teams that had many excited about a " Fast start". I know a win is a win but in hind site it looks like the fools gold that it was. I want a team I can watch for a DECADE that has a legit chance to contend for the playoffs annually and a SB at least once if not a few times. I don't care about a one off playoff appearance . I care about building a team to be proud of. I realize this entails many changes but the first has to be a realization that TT is not the guy and we need to take our medicine and save the cap room and continued middle path even if it means a suckfest next year.