Kirby Jackson
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5 minutes ago, bourbonboy said:
Agree to disagree. PFF is not perfect, but they rated him as 82nd best graded safety with a +56.9 overall grade this past year. And KC let him go, and Bills signed him for less than KC paid him. Bishop, meanwhile, has a reputation as being smart, excels in zone coverage and TE coverage. If Edwards beats him out, its a wasted 2nd round pick, IMHO.
I don’t put much stock into PFF. He’s a lot like Poyer when he got here. The Bills have liked him for a while. We will see I guess but the Bills are solid at S now regardless of how it shakes out in terms of playing time.
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2 minutes ago, mrags said:
My list is just about ending there. The only other guys I really like are Taj Washington. Imo he’s more joystick than Malichi Corley. And I do like Rosemy-Jacksaint. But I feel like they might be available in UDFA. Who knows. I also kinda like McCaffrey just because his bloodline. He’ll probably be decent at least.
I like Malik Washington too. Is it crazy that I still want 2 more WRs? It’s a weak spot on the roster and we can add some different skills.
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3 minutes ago, mrags said:
Give me one of the following guys and I’ll feel a lot better
franklin
rice
baker
Walker
burton
is McMillan gone?
I’m good with Franklin moving forward. I like Baker a lot too. He’s another boom or bust guy but like him. Jacob Cowing is another guy that I have my eye on later. He’s small but quick. I don’t necessarily care that he’s a slot guy. We have a bunch of those. He’s a guy that gets open.
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7 minutes ago, bourbonboy said:
I think it could go either way, but I'm hoping Edwards is the backup.....
I think Edwards might end up as the best of the 3. He is a playmaker that is a little underappreciated. It’s like when Hyde and Poyer got here.
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He’s a good football player. The Bills need more of those. I’m not jumping on the couch but not throwing things at the TV either. Solid
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Hope to be wrong. Guys with his level of seperation have almost all failed.
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I’d like to see the Bills use some of the later picks on vets, to move up or to move into next year’s draft. I don’t want the Bills drafting more than 6 guys. They just don’t have the roster space.
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12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I mean it’s possible, but I honestly don’t, from what I hear is that they loved Pearsall. Worthy does not at all fit Lynch style of player. I kept telling people after the combine not to sleep on Pearsall, he had one of the best combines of any WR. He is much more the type of player SF looks for compared to Worthy.I’m a Pearsall fan. My thinking was more Shanahan than Lynch. Imagine what that guy could do with Worthy? That’s the same reason I didn’t want him in KC. Worthy is dangerous in the right offense.
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
What if one of the other teams calling wanted Worthy? It isn't definitely the case that the only way to keep him from KC was to pick him. And I'm not even that fussed by Worthy particularly. I think he is another WR2 and KC has Rice and Hollywood already that I think fit that criteria (Rice maybe a lower end #1 I suppose, let's see). It isn't about the outcome so much as the process to me. My principle is I'm not doing anything I think might help KC.
I think SF was taking Worthy
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Winners:
- Bears
- Chiefs
- Lions
- Eagles
- Jags
- Pats (was really hoping they’d take JJ)
Losers:
- 1/2 Vikings (JJ sucks)
- Broncos
- Raiders
- Falcons
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2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:
just draft Keon Coleman already
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3 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
I'd be surprised if it doesn't cost at least #33 for Aiyuk but we'll see. He'd be the most exciting of those three vets for sure.
Yeah, 60 is a bit hopeful.
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9 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
Yeah, something like that would be fine to me.
Really curious what SF ultimately gets for Deebo if he's the guy though. Feel like it'll less than people think.
I still think it’s Ayiuk that gets dealt. The Pearsall pick is more duplication when it comes to Ayiuk. He also has the easier contract to move. I wonder if you could get Ayiuk for 60 and 128 or something like that? If that’s the case, take Dejean (or Newton here), trade for Ayiuk & then take Baker at 95. That would be 🔥
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I don’t believe, for a second, that the Bills, or every team for that matter, didn’t have calls about going up and down. That’s malpractice. Now, maybe you didn’t like the cost that you were hearing. That’s a different conversation. You obviously have to listen. If the value is there, you pull the trigger. That’s exactly what Beane described happening with the Carolina trade.
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13 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
It's 100% Cooper. You don't get rid of the 5th year option unless it will end up being useless because Safeties are paid less than what the 5th year option would be.
That’s an interesting take. 🍻
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3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:
My only counter is that the way to prevent Chiefs from getting Worthy was to pick him ourselves. How else would we have prevented Chiefs getting him anyway? I am guessing that Beane knew that the 3 teams in the middle did not want him
I absolutely do not want to help our arch(est) rival but this sounds like a situation where the Bills got some assets while not changing any of the selections between the two teams
I hear you. The Bills certainly could have taken him themselves. The need and value was there. They could have started with Carolina there and tried to get them to come up for Worthy. SF could have targeted him too.
At the end of the day, you had to take the deal if you didn’t want to draft him. The nonsense about only worrying about your own draft board is BS though. The Bills do need to be concerned about what KC is doing. That’s the team that has knocked you out 3 times.-
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4 minutes ago, BananaB said:
He jumped up the draft board after he ran a 4.2 instead of a 4.3 like everyone thought. That’s what I mean by rated. If he was so good he would have been projected higher before the underwear olympics.
If you are referring to John Ross jumping way up after his 40 you are correct. If you’re talking about Worthy moving way up, you’re incorrect. He was always projected early. Here is a mock draft from July 2023:
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4 minutes ago, CNYfan said:
Does this day remind one of 2017, just a bit.
Everybody here knows better than the Big Baller.
Lol, are you referring to the time that he traded his 1st round pick, while needing a QB, for arguably the best QB ever? That draft was McDermott though.
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Surprised that so few people are mentioning Johnny Newton here. He is likely in the conversation for BPA & is at a position the Bills need (at least long term).
Either way, I don’t think that the Bills pick at 33.
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3 minutes ago, BananaB said:
Why wasn’t he rated higher when everyone thought he was a 4.3 guy if he is that elite
I’m sorry, I don’t understand the question? What does “rated” mean (or have to do with anything)? He is a 4.21 guy that was projected as a 1st round pick long before the combine (years even). He was a 3 time all big 12 selection in his 3 seasons. He’s twitchy and obviously has big play ability. He’s a big version of Hollywood Brown (who is now also on the Chiefs). That speed, with Andy Reid, is a nightmare.
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5 hours ago, DCOrange said:
As much as I adore Deebo, he doesn't make much sense for us. If we go the veteran route and Aiyuk is off the table, Higgins or Sutton make more sense than Deebo IMO. Probably wouldn't trade what Cinci wants for Higgins though. I think the cost for Sutton is probably a good match for what we have now and then I'd like to add a rookie WR tomorrow.
What are you willing to pay for Sutton? 5th?
5 hours ago, Cray51 said:Sky Moore was the speed guy taken two years ago who is awful
kadarius toney was picked up to be the speedy first round grade receiver to be a stud
ross was brought in to see if his speed could amount to somethjng in the tail end of his career
the chiefs have struck out on receivers just as often as they have hit. Hill was and is an amazing player. If they have fooled everyone and found a guy of tbat talent again? Credit to them
It’s not that they fooled everyone. He was a 1st round wr, that ran the fastest 40 ever. People took that as “he must play like John Ross.” Worthy was an elite WR, for multiple years, at one of the biggest programs in the country. I think that you could have let a lot of guys go to KC and been okay. This wasn’t one of them.
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Just now, Cray51 said:
I’ve watched the tape on Worthy, I’m not impressed.
i think he has value as a gadget guy and if Mahomes and him gain chemistry, he can be effective
i didnt have a top 40 grade on him
Putting that guy in Andy Reid’s offense is a nightmare. Reid will get him the ball in space. The Bills could certainly trade down. They couldn’t give the Chiefs elite skill players to deal with. Not a good day for the Bills. I’m hoping tomorrow is 2 picks and a vet WR. We will see
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Round 3, Pick 95: DT DeWayne Carter, Duke
in The Stadium Wall
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My favorite of the 3 picks. I still want more receivers but Carter can play. That was a position of need and the Bills added some pass rush.