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    The Atlanta Falcons week 13

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    the saints were off a short week after a PHYSICAL game against atlanta, on the road, and sitting guys like sproles, and evans. im not shocked their offense wasnt crisp.

    Right - Sproles being out was a factor and coming off of the SF game. Still thought Brees would light them up but makes sense. I agree that pass they called when they were trying to run out the clock was ballsy - why risk the INT when only up 4? But that is what Payton does and it worked. If you have Brees, you can do that.

    The Atlanta Falcons week 13

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I went to the Falcons game last night.

    I actually focused on the Dline and Oline play of Atlanta.

     

    Atlanta's Dline played a pretty darn good game. They where around Brees a lot and they did a good job against the run for most of the game. In the 4th quarter they gave up a couple big runs around the left side.

    The Falcons secondary also looked a lot better then they had been looking for the most part. Their safeties are there weak spot in the passing game. Weatherspoon was back and looked good. He is a good 3 down lb who can cover a TE.

     

    On O the Falcons just can not run the ball consistently. They struggle to establish a run game. Thus the Dline is able to tee off on Ryan. The Saints where getting pressure around the edges and when Ryan tried to step up there where guys in his face. It appeared that pressure was also very constant up the middle as well. The front four shoudl have a field day for the Bills. Should.

    WR's wise the kid Johnson is a quick guy who Ryan loved last night. Tony G had a couple nice catches like he always does, and S. Jackson also is a good pass catching back.

     

    Overall the Falcons appeared to wear down over the game. Atl has been hit bad with injuries so the depth is thin and guys are playing big minutes that Atl probably wished where not.

     

    Atlanta gave it all they had last night and the game was good and close. Atl and NO are bitter rivals so the games are usually close. I really do like the Bills chances to win this game. The Bills need to rotate guys in at Dline and wear down the Falcons O line. Ryan knows he has to try and win the game so he is forcing things. Bills could get some Int chances.

    I was surprised the atmosphere was not more lively for it being such a rival. Was it as quiet as it looked on TV? I was glad they lost because they are now effectively out of the playoff race, whereas had they pulled it off (it looked like they might and NO wasn't playing their best game) that might launch them into thinking they could go on a run for a WC based on their accomplishmnents the last few years. I was really surprised they held NO to 17. I expected Brees to go for 40+ after what Tampa did last week. So, still scared! If NO only got 17, what will we do?

    Greg Cosell: "Glennon is best QB in rookie class and it is not eve

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I respect Greg Cosell, really, I do. But he's kinda like a book of Chinese philosophical sayings, you can read 4-5 interviews with him and find statements to support all different viewpoints. I also think he's a bit of a weathercock in what he'll come out and support. Early March before the draft, he published analysis of all the QB which was lukewarm about Nassib. Then later in March when there was all the talk about the Bills drafting Nassib in the 1st, he was quoted saying Nassib was the best QB in the draft.

     

    To me, Cosell is someone to take seriously when he's breaking down film on an individual. He'll see what's there and what's not there, accurately. But when he's comparing Joe Schmo to Fred Glow, I think other things factor into it.

    This was tweeted today, ironically, by Jason McIntire from The Big Lead: (all are tweets about Greg Cosell saying T Richardson was the best player in the 2012 draft ahead of Luck and RG3, plus saying he would have taken RG3 over Luck)

    Jason McIntyre ‏@jasonrmcintyre 1h

    Oh RT @recordsANDradio: Ok then @gregcosell. https://twitter.com/commishonline/status/193386848842809344 … https://twitter.com/chriswesseling/status/182959865747079169 … https://twitter.com/livingcrimson/status/180043061668216833 … https://twitter.com/rosstuckernfl/status/180248014135365632 …

    EJ NFL rookie of the wk

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    Richardson has indeed been extremely solid of late, but I don't think Kiko's play has tapered off at all. No int's but playing his position at a very high level and busting up screens , beating blockers to the point, etc.

    I agree. Kiko has been amazingly consistent for a rookie. While he doesn't have an INT since Sept, he is always the leading tackler, has TFL, and INTs at MLB are just icing.

    Greg Cosell: "Glennon is best QB in rookie class and it is not eve

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    It's odd that you would use Marino as the example. I have as many rings as he does.

     

    Also, the game was different 20 years ago. I might have even agreed then. I would say Ben, Elway, Young, and Rodgers all qualify as mobile. The dual threat QB is relatively new however and is a response to all of the complicated blitz schemes. The game is constantly evolving and there is a reason that these guys started popping up. The whole concept of the zone read is to basically isolate someone and then decide to keep it or hand it off based on which man he takes. It is a numbers thing.

    Luck too... his combine #s were similar to Cam Newton, I think he ran a 4.58 if I remember correctly and can escape and make plays outside the pocket as well as having great pocket presence. I think you can get by without it (i.e. Brady) but you better be a pretty darn perfect passer.

    Greg Cosell: "Glennon is best QB in rookie class and it is not eve

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    Because if you are saying he is by far the best qb but that can change due to one bad game, then he must not be by far the best.

    BTW, what is his track record on projecting talent?

    And who is he? I do not know a thing about the guy. Not saying that means anything, but i do follow the NFL and college football pretty closely.

    This is from his Wikipedia page (he probably wrote it himself):

    Greg Cosell is an NFL analyst and a senior producer at NFL Films. He is the nephew of iconic broadcaster Howard Cosell. Cosell is widely regarded by NFL insiders as one of the most knowledgeable and trusted football analysts

    Greg Cosell: "Glennon is best QB in rookie class and it is not eve

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    http://www.nfl.com/s...ory=QUARTERBACK

     

    YTD stats at the link above. I think to say that Glennon has looked the best and "its not even close" is a bit of an overstatement to say the least. The stats are very close. EJ has a higher Yds/attempt, Glennon has many more throws, thus more yards, more TDs; slightly higher completion %; same interceptions and sacks. The ratings are comparable at least. EJ is 3 and 3 in games he started and finished; Glennon is 2 and 5. Glennon has started 7 games in a row, while EJ had a break in his season and had to restart. I would say any reasonable person would say the jury is still out on the question.

     

    That said, Glennon has looked better than I expected. In the limited amount I saw of him in college I thought he looked stiff and un-athletic, and bad when flushed out of the pocket. Bledsoe-esque is the term that comes to mind. I am surprised at how good he has looked, but that is hardly cause for declaring him the best rookie in the class. People were ready to bestow that on Geno Smith after the first Bills game if I recall. It seems Cosel is gushing to defend his own pre-draft evaluations.

    That is a good balanced assessment. Will be very interesting to compare all three at the end of the season.
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