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He's been downright horrible in the first half of games even through the 3rd quarter. Been better in the 4th quarter when he hasn't had a choice but to throw the ball. 22 pass yards in the 1st quarter of 2 games, wow that's bad. Split Value Cmp Att Inc Cmp% Yds TD 1D Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD 1D Quarter 1st Qtr 6 11 5 54.55 22 0 2 0 60.0 1 2.0 2.00 3 22 7.3 0 1 2nd Qtr 9 11 2 81.82 94 0 4 0 102.3 3 8.5 8.55 3 11 3.7 0 1 3rd Qtr 7 14 7 50.00 97 0 4 0 72.6 3 6.9 6.93 3 35 11.7 1 2 4th Qtr 13 27 14 48.15 215 2 7 2 69.2 2 8.0 6.11 3 35 11.7 0 1 OT 2 7 5 28.57 15 0 0 0 39.6 1 2.1 2.14 0 0 0 0 1st Half 15 22 7 68.18 116 0 6 0 80.9 4 5.3 5.27 6 33 5.5 0 2 2nd Half 20 41 21 48.78 312 2 11 2 70.4 5 7.6 6.39 6 70 11.7 1 3

Yeah, I doubt they would get fired this year unless the Pegulas felt they weren't as transparent as they had said. IDK if Terry or Kim feels as though they have been duped then all bets are off. Again I can't be convinced that Pegulas signed up for this disaster so what was really said by McBean last year is the question.

I'm thinking Petermans days are numbered.

I know right. How do you think that conversation went last year McBeane.... Terry and Kim were going to be average this year(2017) but were going to get rid of all the young talent, replace it with old do nothings, have a huge dead money cap hit and go 0-16 and get blown out every week and not be a decent functioning team until 2020 at earliest, but we will have a lot of cap space. Pegulas.... sounds great, i'm all in! I don't think so, there is no way in hell the Pegulas signed up for that.

Where there is smoke there is fire. The wheels are minus the lug nuts and the car is picking up speed, can't tell me the Pegulas are ok with all that has happened. I would not be surprised if the Pegulas have talked with current and former players who have been shipped out by McBean as to what is going on.

My take from last night is Mack would look good in a Bills uniform. Wonder if McBean even talked to him at all?

He knew about Wood in January and there was plenty of time to address it. Oh wait he did with Bodine, I guess McBeane should have done better than that, which he could have but chose not to.

Since 2014 Jags had 38 draft picks and 10 are starters 3 - 1st rounders 3 - 2nd rounders 3 - 3rd rounders 1 - 5th rounder Since 2014 Bills have had 34 draft picks and 8 are starters 4 - 1st rounders 2 - 2nd rounders 1 - 3rd rounder 1 - 5th rounder (K Williams was a 2006 draft pick so maybe yo could make it 2 - 5th rounders) Can't speak for the Jags but the Bills also have former high draft picks starting all over the league Darby, Ragland, Watkins, Brown, little bit older guys are Gilmore, Dareus, Glenn, Woods, Goodwin, Bradham. It's not like the Bills have drafted bad.

Kind of like what's going to happen with the current guys. Just another reason why you don't go full tear down in the NFL.

I don't think so either but there are so many self inflicted holes I don't foresee .500 until 2020. Is that good enough for McBean to fend off TPegs and get more time? This whole **** show was self created and unnecessary. Totally different story if McBean inherited a bad 2-14 non playoff team.

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Just think of the players off the bickering Bills that McBean would have gotten rid of Bruce Jim Darryl Biscut Andre You can't just get rid of talented players in the name of process and replace them with nothing. I was on board in the beginning but the start to this season has me really questioning what is going on here. There still was no need to tear it all down, none whatsoever. If McBean feels he was incapable of expanding and attempting to make better a 9-7 playoff team then I don't know if I would trust him to rebuild anything.

Than what the heck was he doing on the roster? In the name of process and a throw away year, why wasn't a younger greener CB on the roster instead of Davis? Coach had to know he wasn't any good anymore, if he didn't he sucks as a coach. Everything about this process or Davis walking out or Brown going off or........ whatever, is a freaking **** show. I have to believe TPegs isn't very happy right now.

The Chargers and Ravens are middling teams.

IDK, no one ever knows if they are a bust or not but they could have drafted him without trading anything. Look, I just don't think there was a need for a complete tear down. Sure there was needs, holes, cap problems, etc but I think McBean took it too far.

They didn't need to trade to 1. Allen was taken at 7 or they could have had Mahomes by just standing pat in 2017.

Yes as there was no need for thiis. It's all been self inflicted. I dunno but alot of teams have been better and won Super Bowls after being a middling 8-8, 7-9 or 9-7 the year prior without having to blow the whole thing up. As a matter of fact I cant recall the last team that won a SB after a complete tear down and rebuild. Does that even work in the NFL?

The Eagles were 2013 - 10-6 2014 - 10-6 2015 - 7-9 Rams were 2013 - 7-9 2014 - 6-10 2015 - 7-9 Before Goff and Wentz were drafted. IMO there was no need for McBean to gut everyone in the name of process. That plan screams incompetence to me that people, McBeane, don't really know what they are doing outside of their plan to get a QB(which I did agree with on how they went about that). It's easy to rid a team of it's talent it's much much harder to replace it as so many things factor into the rebuild.

As many holes as McBean has created I would not expect them to be very competitive next year either. That brings us to 2020 where hopefully they can be back to a .500 team. So we're realistically looking at 2021 to be a serious contender. This all predicated on no one getting a serious injury and creating another hole to be filled. You don't complete tear down and rebuild in the NFL because injuries are so prevalent and the seriousness is so unpredictable.

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Yup, I totally agree but he is a far better coach.

This is kind of why you don't do a complete tear down and rebuild in the NFL when you went 9-7 and made the playoffs the year before.

So get rid of all the talented players and going into rebuild mode in the name of process is better than making heady moves and improving on 9-7? Really!

Went 9-7, 7-9, 8-8, 9-7 the last 4 years. Why a complete gut job and total rebuild? IMO it didn't have to be. Reminds me a lot of Darcy Regier and Tim Murrays total incompetence and failures as Sabres GMs.

It is, really? What is the plan then if you think it is? Because there is such a lack of talent on this team, self created I might add and it will take years to become competitive. Then guys quitting, coaches being relieved in game, it's a **** show and TPegs didn't get billions by being a stupid person.